Talk:World Hard Court Championships
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Rename
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:40, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
World Hard Court Championships → World Clay Court Championships — Correct name is the World Clay Court Championships. Both external links in the article contest that name:
- Even when Stade Français launched the paradoxically-named World Clay Court Championship in 1912 on their courts at la Faisanderie in Saint-Cloud park
- The first World Clay Court Championships
BTW, Hard Court is a different surface from Clay. Misbeliever (talk) 13:30, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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moved it back
editThe title of this was the World Hard Court Championships. Hard courts were those that were not grass or were not covered at the time. There are plenty of sources like: Sports Illustrated or A&E's Biography.com or the book "The Encyclopedia of Tennis" by Max Robertson and Jack Kramer, pages 33-34. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:22, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for information, how is it possible that official web of Roland Garros use name “World Clay Court Championships” [1]? There are exist two titles for tournament or this one is wrong? Misbeliever (talk) 20:03, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- You have to remember we are talking many many years here. There pretty much were no concrete courts back in the 1910s and 1920s. There were Grass courts and Wood courts, and anything that wasn't grass or wood was considered Hard courts. It was officially named the "World Hard Court Championships." Nowadays of course we have clay and concrete and designate the two surfaces as clay and hard court respectively. Roland Garros probably uses the the term World Clay Court Championship so that we understand it was played on clay, but the term is actually wrong. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for answer. Misbeliever (talk) 13:50, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- You have to remember we are talking many many years here. There pretty much were no concrete courts back in the 1910s and 1920s. There were Grass courts and Wood courts, and anything that wasn't grass or wood was considered Hard courts. It was officially named the "World Hard Court Championships." Nowadays of course we have clay and concrete and designate the two surfaces as clay and hard court respectively. Roland Garros probably uses the the term World Clay Court Championship so that we understand it was played on clay, but the term is actually wrong. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Men's doubles
editDoes anybody know who won the men's doubles in 1923? The name of Brugnon's partner wasn't copied in correctly when the table was added in March 2010, and it hasn't been added in subsequent edits. I couldn't find the info on-line and don't have the source book (Guinness Book of Tennis Facts and Feats)Brett Dunbar (talk) 20:30, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- Done - added Marcel Dupont. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:45, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- There were mixed doubles too but they haven't been added. On my to-do list. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:46, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
World Championship title dropped
editThe article states that the world championship title was dropped at this meeting (March), but the World Championship actually was held later in the year (May); it would be more accurate to state it was agreed to be dropped. Antipodenz (talk) 08:43, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Australasia
editTh March 1923 meeting determined Major status for other Championships - at this time the Southern Hemisphere one was known as the. Australasian Open - unless the actual ILTF determination stated 'Australia' then the default name would be Australasia. Antipodenz (talk) 08:47, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Let's not say the southern hemisphere one. There were also Championships for South Africa and South America. Nine were determined, but obviously only four remained top tier. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:34, 17 September 2021 (UTC)