Talk:Ynys Bery
Latest comment: 5 years ago by Crouch, Swale in topic Redirect to Ramsey?
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Redirect to Ramsey?
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- Just the small matter of seeing whether we can de-stub Ynys Bery, then. Maybe tomorrow... Tony Holkham (Talk) 23:30, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Having looked at archeology and geology for Ynys Bery I would struggle to de-stub but maybe Tony will ace it. My guess is that it would be better combined and calved when due. Even the shipwrecks prefer Ramsey.SovalValtos (talk) 01:15, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Well it is considrably larger than the other 5 islands that we merged. I agree we may well need to merge, but lets see. Middleholm has a separate article to Skomer of which we added more content to recently. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:40, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Just to sum up: larger than the other islands, but no archaeological evidence, no indication of human habitation or agricultural use, one wreck, no English name (which would have helped search). A fairly extensive search this morning (using Ramsey as well as Ynys Bery) has found no mention of it in newspapers or journals online or on Google. To me that says it's non-notable and should be redirected, but I don't mind leaving it for a while if there's still an objection. Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:46, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Sources rather than size is what is needed. It is in a parish though.... [1]SovalValtos (talk) 17:32, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- If we can't find more coverage we could merge in a month or so and if it later turns out there is more, it can be restored. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:34, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- I found this, Ynys y Byry, from Richard Fenton's 1811 publication, and an ecological/agricultural comment; not pivotal, but another spelling to search. Tony Holkham (Talk) 22:18, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- There are many named fields, larger than this, which are in a parish and have geology which do not have articles. Although it does not look very active might Wikipedia:WikiProject Islands help? Otherwise a merge sooner rather than later.SovalValtos (talk) 06:12, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- I would agree. Also that "kite island" is more appropriate than "falcon island" as I think the former are more common here. Watched four circling here this morning, looking for thermals. Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:56, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- There are many named fields, larger than this, which are in a parish and have geology which do not have articles. Although it does not look very active might Wikipedia:WikiProject Islands help? Otherwise a merge sooner rather than later.SovalValtos (talk) 06:12, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- I found this, Ynys y Byry, from Richard Fenton's 1811 publication, and an ecological/agricultural comment; not pivotal, but another spelling to search. Tony Holkham (Talk) 22:18, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- If we can't find more coverage we could merge in a month or so and if it later turns out there is more, it can be restored. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:34, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Sources rather than size is what is needed. It is in a parish though.... [1]SovalValtos (talk) 17:32, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Just to sum up: larger than the other islands, but no archaeological evidence, no indication of human habitation or agricultural use, one wreck, no English name (which would have helped search). A fairly extensive search this morning (using Ramsey as well as Ynys Bery) has found no mention of it in newspapers or journals online or on Google. To me that says it's non-notable and should be redirected, but I don't mind leaving it for a while if there's still an objection. Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:46, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Well it is considrably larger than the other 5 islands that we merged. I agree we may well need to merge, but lets see. Middleholm has a separate article to Skomer of which we added more content to recently. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:40, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Having looked at archeology and geology for Ynys Bery I would struggle to de-stub but maybe Tony will ace it. My guess is that it would be better combined and calved when due. Even the shipwrecks prefer Ramsey.SovalValtos (talk) 01:15, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
I'm guessing that now the article has been expanded and sourced, and the island is significant and definitely exists, there's no need to merge it any longer? Sionk (talk) 09:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, I am now on the "drop the merge proposal" side of the fence. Tony Holkham (Talk) 09:52, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
- Agree, although there isn't much about it and its still of dubious notability at least it has some more content. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:11, 11 August 2019 (UTC)