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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 22:53, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

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Created by ZappaOMati (talk). Self nominated at 03:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC).

  • This article is new enough and long enough. Both the hooks are suitably referenced. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:24, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
    • I took this out of the prep area because of some issues. These statements can be changed for a common reader to understand or have it there, but just have it clarified - "bumped into a slowing", "On the green-white-checkered finish", and "the first caution flew for debris". The sentence with "Gordon held on to win" could possibly be reworded, but I'm not too concerned about it to not let the article run because of that. SL93 (talk) 00:48, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
      • I don't see how some of them can be changed, such as the green-white-checker finish, since it's a NASCAR term not really used in other bodies. The only other possible term for a GWC is Overdrive, which only NASCAR on Fox used. ZappaOMati 01:03, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
        • You can just fix what you believe can be fixed. I will trust your judgment. SL93 (talk) 01:05, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
  • I have to ask why information like the national anthem and grand marshall and the other "guest stars" are considered notable enough to include. They don't affect the race at all, and national anthems aren't mentioned in other sports, such as baseball World Series games. The flyover might be notable, though I'm not sure. Just because the source goes into exhaustive detail regarding minutia doesn't mean an encyclopedic article should. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:04, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
    • Yeah, it doesn't really affect the race itself, but it is one of the things that helped the page get past the 1500 character mark, especially considering the scarcity of reliable sources and recaps available of the race. I removed it, but now I gotta find a way to expand the article 300+ more characters. Dang. ZappaOMati 03:50, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
    • @BlueMoonset: OK, so I was able to expand it to 1898 characters. Better? ZappaOMati 04:16, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes, thanks. New articles really shouldn't have filler to get to 1500; it needs to be a solid 1500. Assuming FN5 is reliable enough (I'm not entirely sure it's neutral), I thought the information that Gordon's victory lap was marred by junk being thrown on the track by spectators who were angered by his bumping Kenseth rather than passing him outright might be worth adding. However, I do think that some of SL93's notes on problematic statements should be addressed: "the first caution flew for debris" should probably be something like "the first caution flag was caused by debris on the track", for example, and I'm not sure why "bumped" is used when one car struck/hit the other's bumper (it would be better prose not to use "bumped" and "bumper" for the same occurrence). I'll let SL93 take it from here. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:45, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
  • I really don't know if this is reliable: [1]. If it is, then Gordon getting beer bombed could be added. ZappaOMati 14:05, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Anyways, I did some tweaks to it. ZappaOMati 03:55, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Needs a new reviewer to check phrasing and sourcing reliability and neutrality, and also the hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:49, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
    • My concern with phrasing has been fixed. Everything else is fine and the hooks are still reliably referenced. The promoter can choose the hook. SL93 (talk) 21:29, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
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