Template:Did you know nominations/Church of All Saints, Helmsley

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The result was: promoted by Mentoz86 (talk) 10:37, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Church of All Saints, Helmsley

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~~... that Helmsley Church, North Yorkshire, (pictured) is not dedicated to anyone in particular?~~

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kat Driscoll

Created/expanded by Gilderien (talk). Self nom at 20:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I have a couple of questions. This is a very nicely written 5X Expansion article, in which date and length check out. No Copyvio found. Hopefully, my two questions can be resolved so this can pass: Maile66 (talk) 18:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Image - I would like another editor to check the image source on Commons to see if it is all right to use on DYK, since DYK sometimes has different restrictions than the articles..

Hook - I'm not sure how many readers would be hooked by whether or not a church was dedicated. The lead says that this church which bears the name "All Saints" is dedicated to all saints.(the sentence is not specifically sourced) In the Architecture section, it says two chapels are dedicated to two specific saints, which is sourced.

Well, if you want a third opinion feel free, but I have had 3 (?) lead DYKs so far, and the general rule is that images are only possibly a problem if they are not on commons, as local images could be fair use, which is not allowed on commons. Also, I would be happy to change the hook.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 18:15, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, please, change the hook. It won't hurt to have someone else look at the image issue. I also always thought something being on Commons meant it was all right to use. But a previous DYK found out that isn't necessarily always the case. So, I would like another editor to look at the source of the image. Maile66 (talk) 18:34, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Image is fine: as long as it's on Wikimedia Commons and has a good paper trail, it's safe. Sometimes images are uploaded and do not have that trail, so always check—I've seen a few images here that I've ended up requesting be deleted from Commons because the images were copyright but were uploaded by someone unclear on the concept or who didn't care—but in this case it goes back to Geograph and the Creative Commons license from there is very clear. The image is also in the article, so it meets that DYK requirement as well. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:50, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. The image issue is passed. Maile66 (talk) 19:06, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you originally checked this off with two questions active—including a request for a replacement hook—so I'm canceling out the tick to prevent this from getting promoted before it's ready. When the hook is ready for the main page, add back the approval sign. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 19:16, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I didn't mean to check it off. Maile66 (talk) 19:51, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

ALT 1 "... that All Saints Church, Helmsley (pictured) contains two chapels dedicated to different saints?"--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 20:20, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Good to go. Everything checks out. Alt1 hook is sourced. Maile66 (talk) 20:25, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Note: striking original hook because of the issues with it. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:07, 14 June 2012 (UTC)