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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:17, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

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Eastern Region, Nigeria

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5x expanded by Alexplaugh12 (talk). Nominated by Stanleytux (talk) at 06:43, 4 August 2016 (UTC).

  • Comment The first hook is not about the nominated article! Edwardx (talk) 09:16, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
@Edwardx: Thanks for your message, took out the first hook, leaving ALT1. What you think? Stanleytux (talk) 10:57, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment2 Because this system of government isn't unique, even among other regions of Nigeria, you may run into criticism of the hook as not interesting. Could I suggest
ALT2 ... that Eastern Region, Nigeria spent up to one-third of the government budget on education in the 1950s and '60s?
  • Also, any chance of adding more sources to the article? Two is rather thin. Taknaran (talk) 16:46, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment Taknaran makes a good point. ALT1 does not seem to meet the "interesting" criterion for a hook. ALT2 is interesting enough. Edwardx (talk) 17:37, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Some issues found.
    • ✓ This article has been expanded from 896 chars to 13113 chars since 00:43, 03 July 2016 (UTC), a 14.64-fold expansion
    • ✓ This article meets the DYK criteria at 13113 characters
    • ✗ Paragraphs [4] (Historically, ... duties.),[8] (Dancing ... 1954.),[22] (University ... Umudike.) in this article lack a citation.
    • ✓ This article has no outstanding maintenance tags
    • ✓ A copyright violation is unlikely according to automated metrics (0.0% confidence; confirm)
      • Note to reviewers: There is low confidence in this automated metric, please manually verify that there is no copyright infringement or close paraphrasing. Note that this number may be inflated due to cited quotes and titles which do not constitute a copyright violation.
  • No overall issues detected
    • ✓ The hook ALT0 is an appropriate length at 79 characters
    • ✓ The hook ALT1 is an appropriate length at 107 characters
    • ✓ Stanleytux has fewer than 5 DYK credits. No QPQ required. Note a QPQ will be required after 0 more DYKs.

Automatically reviewed by DYKReviewBot. This is not a substitute for a human review. Please report any issues with the bot. --DYKReviewBot (report bugs) 19:14, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

@Edwardx and Taknaran: Thanks for your messages. ALT 2 is ok and more sources have also been added to the article. Stanleytux (talk) 23:54, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Issues raised by Bot have been addressed. Additional citations have been included. Stanleytux (talk) 12:36, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Full review needed by human now that bot issues have been addressed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:34, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • @Alexplaugh12: - this is not a review, but looking at the hook it is pretty dull, isn't there something more interesting you can pull from the article? The point of a DYK hook is to get people to actually read the article after all.  MPJ-DK  02:19, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
@MPJ-DK: We have already agreed to go with Taknaran's hook which is more interesting than the one provided as ALT 1. Stanleytux (talk) 05:07, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
Stanleytux - AH! yes I must have missed that (reading is fundamental but apparently hard ;-) ) so I agree that hook would be interesting, that's not a fact we'd normally think of when thinking of an African country. Just a couple of issues 1) The article does not stated a date range (50s and 60s) while the hook does. 2) The source in the artcle is from the 1950s, so it could not actually support what was done in the 1960s. So Alt2 needs to be adjusted or sources to cover the 1960s needs to be added.  MPJ-DK  06:12, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
Have added yet another source to the article backing the education budget in the '60s. Stanleytux (talk) 07:51, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
Okay since the hook is now in the article AND sourced I will provide the full human review needed to get this processed. I like the education one better since it's more of a "hmmm that is interesting" than the palm products (although if the angle was palm production was important yet it was not actually indigenous to the area that could be interesting too.) Full DYK to follow.  MPJ-DK  07:58, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
How about
  • ALT3:... that in the Eastern Region, Nigeria, palm is an important crop, producing leaves for thatch, palm wine for consumption and palm kernels for foreign trade? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:19, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
This also makes good sense. Pinging Taknaran, Edwardx and MPJ-DK to get their thoughts on the new hook. Stanleytux (talk) 07:51, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
While the hook is better it's not really focusing on the Eastern Region but on Palm products.  MPJ-DK  08:14, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
Agree with User:MPJ-DK. Drop "Eastern Region, Nigeria" or replace it with anywhere else were palm is grown and that hook very probably holds true. We need something about palm specific to Eastern Region, or a different hook altogether. Edwardx (talk) 23:36, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
Another thought - the article really needs a map, or at least some sort of image. I've tried to find something better for a hook, but the article seems very dull to me. Surely there must be something interesting about this region that could be added to the article. Edwardx (talk) 23:41, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
Human Review
  • The Bot has already verified newness, length, no tags, QPQ done, no copyvio etc. and double checking that I have no doubts that's all in good order.
  • The article itself is well written
  • Hook is directly sourced and AGF on the correctness of it since I do not have access to the books it cites
  • Sources - So here I am a little torn, because the article in general is well sourced but there are portions that lack citations. For many paragraphs there is no source for the last sentence in the paragraph, such as "During the war period, the provinces were given more power due to shortage of personnel." This occurs several times, that the last sentence is unsourced.
  • Second paragraph under "Culture" is unsourced
  • Cities and Towns is unsourced, so is the "President" and the "Speaker" section unless that's covered in the text?
  • Reference 23 only says "104"??
  • - The sourcing needs to be addressed, but that's it Stanleytux.  MPJ-DK  08:14, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
@MPJ-DK: Thanks for the review... added more sources to the article. Stanleytux (talk) 22:59, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
  • - @Stanleytux: - Sorry for the delay in the review. I am good with the ALT2 on education, I think it's interesting and it's cited etc. If you are okay with that hook going forward I am okay with it too.  MPJ-DK  22:35, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
No problemo @MPJ-DK:, ALT 2 is good to go. Stanleytux (talk) 23:15, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
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