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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 13:23, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
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Emiliano Monge, Among the Lost
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- ... that in Among the Lost, a 2018 novel by Mexican-born Emiliano Monge, the victims of human trafficking are described in language borrowed from Dante's Inferno and the testimony of real-life people? Source: NPR review
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nadja Malacrida, Template:Did you know nominations/Podostemum ceratophyllum. Drmies (talk) 01:20, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 01:20, 30 September 2019 (UTC).
@Drmies: Both articles are new enough and long enough and a double QPQ is present to match. I do worry that the Emiliano Monge article is incredibly heavy on quotes of reviews in a way that is understandable for the "style" and "response" sections of Among the Lost. The hook is found in Among the Lost and is backed up by the source from NPR. Among the Lost is probably ready, but I feel like if I removed the quotes from the biography, it may not be long enough. Is there a way to shore that up? Raymie (t • c) 06:52, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- Raymie, I hate to say it, but I agree with you, and it is something that I'm working on. Unfortunately there isn't all that much material--the one quote I got about the "new" Mexican writers, for instance, is all I could find in the academic literature. He is a fairly new author. I don't read Spanish, and there is no article on him on the Spanish wiki, so there was nothing I could lift from there. Even getting the bibliography straight was tricky. Thanks for your comment and the reviews: I'm trying. Drmies (talk) 14:21, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Drmies, just a drive-by comment, hope you don't mind: I just searched on Google for "Emiliano Monge" "Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México", and found several sources in Spanish which give his date of birth and publications he has written for, and another sort-of award. They are quite similar, so perhaps ultimately derive from the same source, but at least one might be useful to include: [1], [2], [3]. Possibly searching on some of that info might bring up more sources too. (I don't read Spanish either, but manage to get basic info through Google Translate.) RebeccaGreen (talk) 16:26, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Drmies and RebeccaGreen:
Not only was the biographical article crying out for more Spanish sources, the lack of them meant that his most recent work, which AFAIK has yet to be translated, was not even mentioned! Luckily, I know a thing (or two, or 126) about making DYKs with Spanish-language sources, and so I've incorporated some of the material from the above as well as this additional book (complete with two reviews of it). I need a new reviewer for Emiliano Monge only as I have probably added enough that I can't review. Raymie (t • c) 20:11, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- Raymie, whoa--he has another book? Man. Thanks! I finished Among the Lost two nights ago, and it is terrifying, and good. BlueMoonset, do we need a new reviewer? It's just one paragraph... Drmies (talk) 22:45, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- Drmies, I think it would be a good idea for another reviewer to recheck after Raymie's excellent work: there were a couple of other sentences beyond the paragraph, and the prose count increased by over 25% (900 new prose characters). BlueMoonset (talk) 00:20, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Drmies and RebeccaGreen:
I'll review these. Among the Lost has 5348 char-long enough; created 26 September, nominated on the 30th-new enough. Neutral, cited, as noted above, lots of quotes, but all are appropriately marked and no other copyvios detected. QPQ done. No image. Hook has 196 char-just under the 200 char maximum, very interesting and hook fact appears in the article and is confirmed by NPR article.
Monge has 4433 char-long enough; created 26 September, nominated on the 30th-new enough. I'll be back to finish after viewing Spanish language sources for copyvios. SusunW (talk) 15:37, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
