Template:Did you know nominations/Ernest Berry Webber

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:02, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Ernest Berry Webber

Southampton Civic Centre
Southampton Civic Centre
  • ... that after Ernest Berry Webber won the competition to build the Civic Centre and Guildhall in Southampton (pictured), he had to move there to oversee the construction for ten years? Source: [1]

5x expanded by Cassianto (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 19:49, 8 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Article is new enough, from 357 characters a week ago to 5904 now, making it also long enough. Definitely no policy concerns. Hook short enough, meets the formatting guidelines, and is broadly interesting. QPQ was done. Image is free and used in the article. The sourcing on the hook is a little bit sideways; it's definitely true that construction of the building took 10 years, and that he had to move there to oversee it, but nothing I can find clearly confirms that he lived there for the full 10 years, so if stronger sourcing can't be found it might be best to have a hook that doesn't imply that. However I'm approving this hook in good faith. This is my third DYK review, so per the intro of the reviewing guide, I invite a second opinion for my review. - Astrophobe (talk) 04:31, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but there is no inline cite for the fact that he moved there, and frankly, I don't understand the point that he "had to" move there. Is this supposed to be funny or something? You have a long enough article; please suggest another hook. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:44, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that in 1929, Ernest Berry Webber won the competition to build the Civic Centre and Guildhall in Southampton (pictured), which was completed ten years later? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Is what supposed to be funny? If you're not laughing, then I would suggest that it's not supposed to be funny, what do you reckon? It's not my hook and I don't know where it came from. I don't much care for DYK; it maybe Gerda Arendt who you're after. CassiantoTalk 20:03, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes, I pinged both of you. Yoninah (talk) 20:09, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes, what? Yes you found it funny? Yes, it was Gerda you were after? I know you pinged both of us. Why don't we switch to SchroCat's preferred version? CassiantoTalk 20:20, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
  • (ec) Gerda, let's not be dull. How about:
Peterborough Town Hall
Peterborough Town Hall
  • Please list other ideas on this template. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:25, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Did you even read the discussion? I tried to help, and Cassianto pointed out the building pictured above as his best. I found it a monster, and ten years a long time. Perhaps it was a mistake that I tried to help. - "British"? Really? A list of three? A cancelled project as the only thing mentioned. Perhaps it was a mistake that I tried to help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
The only mistake, Gerda, was me ever thinking that DYK was a good idea. I for one very much appreciate your help here. CassiantoTalk 16:28, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps I can at least help to the above-mentioned preferred version:
ALT4: ... that Hammersmith Town Hall, London, designed by Ernest Berry Webber, was called "an unfortunate building" by the architectural historian Nikolaus Pevsner?" - SchroCat (talk) 18:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
copied --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Wow, it sure sounds like Attack Yoninah Day.
  • To quote you: "Is this supposed to be funny or something?" I would wager "something", because it's certainly not funny accusing others of attacking you, when they're very clearly not. CassiantoTalk
  • ALT4 is fine. Offline hook ref AGF and cited inline. Rest of review per Astrophobe. ALT4 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:41, 27 April 2020 (UTC)