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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 12:31, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Gott soll allein mein Herze haben, BWV 169

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Created/expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Expanded. Cantata for Trinity 18, 23 October 2011 (well, I am late), to appear before 29 October if possible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:10, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Long enough, new enough. Well referenced. Paraphrasing looks okay.
Summary: Waiting on feedback for hook. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:18, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Two personal remarks: I don't like hooks with "may have been", and this one is very tentative. I expanded/improved Andreas Scholl (from almost unreferenced) and would like to show "him", also to hopefully induce further improvement. There is no way to expand him 5*, because much of the text is still "too much" (s. recordings). Two more general remarks: many people don't know that in Bach's time alto could (most of the time would) be sung by a male singer. The recording is recent and received praise. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Hmm, if you can reference that Bach's cantatas were rarely sung by males at the time and work it into the hook that would be much better, methinks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:35, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Sorry no, no room for such a general remark on Baroque practise (no females in church) in a specific cantata, - I would have to repeat it in every single one then, right. It must be somewhere already, and if at all I would mention it in the linked Bach cantata. - Also I don't have extra time, working on BWV 5, + traveling, smile.
  • Enjoy your trip. Do you have another idea for an interesting hook? Most people don't have enough context to see the interest in the original hook. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:21, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Ah well, here I wanted to please Tony who requested the German to be translated, - no room to say much else once you do. This title line is repeated many times, which is unusual, but I would not know how to phrase it without sounding overly simple. Another one, probably too long (and I will be off for the rest of the day, and for some others it might be of interest that the "Caruso of countertenors", who s going to sing at the MET again next month, recorded the work):
ALT2... that an aria in Bach's solo cantata for alto Gott soll allein mein Herze haben, BWV 169, has been compared to "Erbarme dich" from Bach's St Matthew Passion in its "mood of heart-stopping intensity"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
  • That's a nice hook, but according to the article the music is of "heart-stopping intensity" and the specific aria is the only one compared to "Erbarme dich". Perhaps ALT3: ... that Bach's solo cantata for alto Gott soll allein mein Herze haben, BWV 169, has been described as having a "mood of heart-stopping intensity", with an aria compared to "Erbarme dich" from his St Matthew Passion ? rather long though... Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:01, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
  • I clarified the article: the source says that about the specific aria. What do you think about
ALT4... that an aria of "heart-stopping intensity" in Bach's solo cantata for alto Gott soll allein mein Herze haben, BWV 169, has been compared to "Erbarme dich" from his St Matthew Passion? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Gerda said that Tony[which?] had wanted a translation. I prefer ALT4. Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:04, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
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