Template:Did you know nominations/Harrild & Sons

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The result was: promoted by  MPJ-DK  00:33, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Harrild & Sons

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Jobbing press manufactured by Harrild & Sons

• ... that Harrild & Sons, a British manufacturer of printing presses (pictured), in 1813 introduced the use of composition roller instead of ink balls to ink the printing plates?

• Reviewed: Khizr and Ghazala Khan

5x expanded by AKS.9955 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:06, 7 August 2016 (UTC).

• QPQ done. Image own work and clear. NO copyvio. Hook cited and interesting. Length and newness pass. Everything else checks out. Per a recently criticized decision in ANI, a second review of this nom is required. LavaBaron OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED AS MOST POPULAR DYK EDITOR IN HISTORY 20:36, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

• Second full review required per ANI decision. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:22, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

That many references are not required in the lead. Please try moving them into the prose. As per WP:MOSLEAD. Regards, KC Velaga ✉ 06:13, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

• Krishna Chaitanya Velaga, why is that a problem? Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 05:10, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

@AKS.9955: As lead should be a summary of the body, and the points mentioned in the lead are already in the main prose, they need not be referenced again. Regards, KC Velaga ✉ 05:21, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

@Krishna Chaitanya Velaga:, that I know. But what stops me to include references / citations in the lead section? Read WP:LEADCITE. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 05:35, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

It is just a suggestion. Thanks for the information. GTG. Regards, KC Velaga ✉ 07:31, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Krishna Chaitanya Velaga:, is anything else needed or is this DYK passed? Just reconfirming. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 06:07, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

No more issues GTG. Regards, KC Velaga ✉ 06:09, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

• Krishna Chaitanya Velaga, you are supposed to do a complete second DYK review based on the DYK criteria, including checks for size, newness, neutrality, copyvio/close paraphrasing, hook sourcing, image licensing, etc. Please be sure to note everything you've checked, as should be done in all DYK reviews. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:49, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks BlueMoonset, even I was not sure and that's why I reconfirmed with Krishna Chaitanya Velaga again. In anycase, we all learn something new everyday and as long as the job is done correctly, it should be fine. BlueMoonset, just out of curiosity, can you share the link to the ANI decision that you talked about above? I would like to update myself on that outcome. Cheers, Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 16:55, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

• AKS.9955, it's posted at WT:DYK#LavaBaron's editing restrictions. I see there that it's actually from AN, not ANI. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:16, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks BlueMoonset. I was wondering if I did something wrong which called for a second review. In any-case, we need to follow what the community has decided. Thanks for the update. Cheers, Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 17:35, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

• Hello @Krishna Chaitanya Velaga:, can you please give your closing comments. This DYK is apparently still open, per comments from BlueMoonset. Thanks, Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 05:15, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: All criteria checked and verified. GTG. Regards, KC Velaga ✉ 06:02, 18 August 2016 (UTC)