Template:Did you know nominations/Harry Lindblad

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:47, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Harry Lindblad

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... ~~that while Harry Lindblad was its president, the Finnish Ice Hockey Association participated in its first Winter Olympic Games in 1952, and opened its first artificial ice hockey rink in 1956?~~ Years of being president Finnish milestones

Reviewed: William F. Ramsey

Created by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 02:00, 3 March 2019 (UTC).

Article is new enough and long enough. It's neutral and well-referenced with what appear to be RSs. AGF on the Finnish language sources. Pic in article has fair use rationale. QPQ done. Did some light copy-editing of the article. No copy-vios or close paraphrasing detected. Hook is correctly formatted but too wordy and probably doesn't need the second fact about the ice rink. It is also unsupported by the article as he was vice-president in 1952 which seems a weaker hook. Additionally, the ice rink fact does not have a reference in the article immediately after the relevant sentence. Can the nominator please propose an alternative hook? Philafrenzy (talk) 23:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

I should get around to this by March 11. Sorry for the delay. Flibirigit (talk) 04:32, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

I have rearranged the article to separate accomplishents while vice-president, then president, then later life. Hopefully it is more clear this way. A newer hook is below. Flibirigit (talk) 16:54, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that while Harry Lindblad was its president, the Finnish Ice Hockey Association hosted two Ice Hockey World Championships, and the Finnish Elite League was founded? Years of being president, Two world championships Finnish Elite League founding

Only the first of the championships is directly attributed by the sources to him, although he was clearly closely involved in the second. Also the creation of the Elite league is not attributed by the source to him. What about just saying that he was responsible for bringing the world hockey championship to Finland? (P.S. I see you have reverted the structure to having a biography section within an article that is a biography. It won't stop me ticking it but it does strike me as redundant.) Philafrenzy (talk) 16:09, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Comments acknowledged. I will try to get around to this on the weekend. If you have other concerns, this template is on my watch list. It is not necessary to ping me or post on my talk page. Thank you. Flibirigit (talk) 19:49, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Here is a different hook. I will be away for several days and will not respond quickly. Flibirigit (talk) 03:08, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

ALT2 ... that Finnish Ice Hockey Association president Harry Lindblad was one of the first three people to be made an honorary member of the International Ice Hockey Federation? [1]

Thanks for your efforts, the article is looking good. Do you have a more interesting hook? Philafrenzy (talk) 08:57, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Comment I was asked to see if I could help out here. How about:

ALT3....that Finnish Ice Hockey Association president Harry Lindblad was a founding member of the Finnish Hockey Hall of Fame, and served as its first chairman? Harry Lindblad becoming one of the founding members and first chairman of the Finnish Hockey Hall of Fame. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 03:08, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

OK but the article says "In 1979, he was a founding member of the Finnish Hockey Hall of Fame, and served as its first chairman." and "He was posthumously inducted into the Finnish Hockey Hall of Fame in 1985, and into the builder category of IIHF Hall of Fame in 1999." so you will need to sort that out first. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:50, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

@Philafrenzy: What do you mean? You can be a chairman of the HOF without being inducted. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 09:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

First bit says he joined the hall of fame in 1979, second posthumously in 1985. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:56, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

@Philafrenzy: There is a difference between founding it and being inducted into it. Think of the first part (in 1979) as like he joined the board of directors. Founding = involved in establishing or originating an institution or organization. The second part means his picture and name are up in the HOF for a reason. He was inducted for his work in the sport, not for establishing the HOF. For example, not every founding member of the IIHF Hall of Fame was inducted. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 10:01, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Explain that in the article please. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:02, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

@Philafrenzy: Did this help? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 10:05, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Alt3 approved. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:44, 29 March 2019 (UTC)