- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by 4meter4 (talk) 03:24, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
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Jared Tebo, 2007 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championship
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- ... that the 2007 and 2013 world champion Jared Tebo took up radio-controlled racing as an alternative to regular hospital visits caused by motocrossing?
- ALT1:... that the 2007 and 2013 world champion Jared Tebo considered radio-controlled racing to be motocrossing without the hospital visits?
Created by Donnie Park (talk). Self-nominated at 23:37, 13 September 2015 (UTC).
- Comment: Will prefer this to be posted on its opening day. October 3—5 (2015 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championship, 2WD class) as Tebo is the defending champion in that class.
- Reviewed: Touran Mirhadi (here) and Laura Jordan Bambach (here) considering I assume that for a double hook nomination, need two reviews. Donnie Park (talk) 20:34, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
New enough, long enough. Hook short enough and sourced. No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found. QPQ done and image properly licensed. You are right that you require two QPQs, as this is a dual-article hook. As far as I can tell, 2007 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championship#4WD is unfinished; it consists of three empty sections, and although I am a hypocrite for saying this due to the ubiquity of red links in my articles, there are too many in this article - three red link main article hatnotes, and another red link in 2007 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championship#See also. The point of red links is to encourage article creation, and in these cases these red links do more harm than good. As for Jared Tebo, I agree that not all the listed references are reliable - the first two certainly aren't as they are WP:PRIMARY, though I haven't evaluated any of the others. A good percentage of Jared Tebo#Personal life needs being slashed per WP:BLP, since - as far as I can tell anyway - it's sourced poorly. In addition, please ask WP:GOCE to copyedit the article, and in your request, ask them to mark any howlers as [citation needed].--Launchballer 01:58, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I did as much as I can advised above but one more thing, do you know what is the issue with this DYK nomination as this is languishing for weeks doing nothing after being given a pass then was told it had some problems which I assumed it passed. Please let me know, thanks. Donnie Park (talk) 02:15, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- It has almost certainly been pulled from prep and thus from T:TDYK. Ask at T:DYK for them to reinstate it.--Launchballer 11:11, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Donnie Park, I restored the template to T:TDYK earlier today and added it to the list of old nominations needing review on WT:DYK; hopefully, it will be picked up soon by a reviewer. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:13, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- It has almost certainly been pulled from prep and thus from T:TDYK. Ask at T:DYK for them to reinstate it.--Launchballer 11:11, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I did as much as I can advised above but one more thing, do you know what is the issue with this DYK nomination as this is languishing for weeks doing nothing after being given a pass then was told it had some problems which I assumed it passed. Please let me know, thanks. Donnie Park (talk) 02:15, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Article copy-edited. Removed comma before name in both DYK hooks. In addition, I agree with @Launchballer: that pretty much the entirety of the article is based on personal interviews... not sure what can be done about that but I'm not taking on that responsibility. I prefer ALT1 personally. Ignatzmice•talk 02:36, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: both articles have now received their requested WP:GOCE copyedits. @Launchballer: please continue the review. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:37, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, what else do I need to do? I can't see anything wrong with the sourcing, which I didn't finish checking.--Launchballer 21:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks to Ignatzmice for the help, its being very useful. Donnie Park (talk) 01:44, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, what else do I need to do? I can't see anything wrong with the sourcing, which I didn't finish checking.--Launchballer 21:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Let's get a new reviewer in here to continue, since this is clearly stalled. The reviewer should check that issues raised previously have been handled to their satisfaction. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:45, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell, from looking at the page and the comments above, the outstanding issue seems to be whether the sources used for the Jared Tebo article are reputable, if someone could please speak to that.Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:46, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Since the only issue raised in the first review was the quality of the sources, I'm going to give everything else a pass and just look at the sources. The hook fact is sourced to an interview on circusrc.com. Interviews do not usually have any critical analysis of the answers and we thus treat them as self-published sources. To boot, the site appears to be a one man show and thus lacks editorial oversight. However, self-published sources can be used for information on what the subject says about themselves. I think the subject saying in an interview what their reasons were for taking a particular career course can reasonably be treated as an expert opinion on the matter and therefore complies with WP:SELFPUB. There is no particular reason to doubt the genuineness of the interview either, so I would give that one a pass. There are enough other sources in the article that can be considered reliable that it passes the notability threshold. In particular, there are two articles from liverc.com which, although it is mostly focused on providing video and commentary, seems to be a large organisation and uses named staff journalists so it is reasonable to assume that there is editorial oversight. Obviously, the article cannot go to DYK with the unreliable sources banner still in place. I don't propose to remove it myself, but pinging user:I dream of horses, the user who put it there, to see what they think. If I dream of horses is ok with this, then please take it as read that I have given the article a pass. SpinningSpark 18:27, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Spinningspark: I can't recall why I put the tag up, but I don't I'd put it up today. I'd be totally okay if someone took it down. I dream of horses (My edits) @ 01:21, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
