Template:Did you know nominations/Killing of Lindani Myeni

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 12:23, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Article contributors have come to an agreement that running the article at DYK is inappropriate at this time.

Killing of Lindani Myeni

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... that the April 2021 killing of Lindani Myeni by Honolulu police officers did not lead to mass protests? Source: Associated Press: No mass protests after Honolulu police shoot, kill Black man
- ALT1:... that there was no mass protest locally after Honolulu police officers killed Lindani Myeni in April 2021, but Myeni's coffin was met in South Africa with a banner that read "Black Lives Matter"? Source: See ALT0, plus NYT: "When his plastic-wrapped coffin arrived at the airport in Johannesburg in May, a youth contingent from the African National Congress party waved a 'Black Lives Matter' banner emblazoned with his smiling face."
- ALT2:... that after Honolulu police officers killed Lindani Myeni in April 2021, Myeni's body was sent to South Africa for his funeral, which was broadcast in South African media? Source: Same article as ALT1
- ALT3:~~... that the Honolulu police officers who killed Lindani Myeni in April 2021 did not verbally identify themselves as police until after they had shot Myeni four times?~~ Source: Same article as ALT1. Shot four times: "Mr. Alm said two other officers had tried to stop Mr. Myeni by tackling him and using a Taser before the officer who had been attacked shot Mr. Myeni once in the chest. Even after that shot, Mr. Myeni continued to punch the officer before another officer shot Mr. Myeni three times, hitting him in the chest and leg, Mr. Alm said." Did not verbally identify themselves: "a lawyer for Mr. Myeni’s widow [...] said that Mr. Alm’s investigation had failed to address the 'elephant in the room,' which was the officers’ failure to identify themselves as the police before they shot Mr. Myeni [...] Mr. Alm said the officers did not have to identify themselves as the police, saying they were easily recognizable"

Reviewed: 1997 Ontario teachers' strike

Created by Ezlev (talk) and FormalDude (talk). Nominated by Ezlev (talk) at 18:27, 19 September 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - There's an open citation needed tag, that should be taken care of
Neutral: - Article has a "neutrality disputed" tag.
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - earwig is picking up several similarities

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - ALT0 is not cited inline, and ALT3 does not appear in the article—that should probably be cleared up
Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hi, ezlev! I'm sorry it's taken so long for someone to get to to your review—this nomination has quite a few issues, but I'm glad someone took the time to cover this topic; it's super important! Let me know when we're ready to move forward. Great work so far, just a bit more! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 00:07, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, Theleekycauldron. I expected the article to remain somewhat stable for a while when I submitted it, but it's in flux now, as you likely noticed during your review – I hope it'll be in shape for DYK in the near future! ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 01:08, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, it's definitely active at the moment—no worries, take your time! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:12, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Ezlev, theleekycauldron, it's been over a week since the expansion was completed (I've added the expander's name to the DYKmake credits); can the review continue? Have the issues raised been dealt with? BlueMoonset (talk) 01:20, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

sure! The article is now sourced and neutral, but I'm not seeing that the Earwig similarities have been dealt with. I'm striking ALT3 as non-neutral, and ALT0 is still not cited inline. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:28, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Theleekycauldron, BlueMoonset, I'm not very familiar with the current state of the article, as I haven't had the time or energy to look at it after the major changes that have been made. Because of that, I don't think I want to proceed with the nomination. Maybe FormalDude or JackRayon1101 would be interested in doing so? ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 01:37, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
I've sourced ALT0, but I also am not eager to proceed with the nomination. ––FormalDude talk 02:00, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

@FormalDude: for the same reason as ezlev or for other reasons? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 02:03, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Other reasons. This is the first DYK nomination I've been a part of, and now I'm not sure it's interesting enough to be worthy of DYK. ALT1 is slightly better than ALT0, I suppose. ––FormalDude talk 02:07, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Well, I certainly respect that, although I think this hook would be pretty interesting against the backdrop of other hooks at DYK. We'll let this nomination go, then. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 02:09, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

I don't see a strong reason to push for a nomination. It is hard to put a neutral and engaging ALT, IMHO. It is a tragedy incident. There is a pending lawsuit. I would propose we put it off after the lawsuit got unfolded. Also I don't feel the proposed Alt reflects the article as a whole. JackRayon1101 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 02:20, 27 October 2021 (UTC)