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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 14:21, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

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Liber OZ

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  • Source: Crowley, Aleister; et. al. (2004) [1997]. "Editor's note to p. 689 Appendix VIII". In Hymenaeus Beta (ed.). Magick: Liber ABA, Book 4, parts I-IV (2nd. rev. ed.). York Beach, Maine: S. Weiser. p. 788: "[...] but I've got them down to five sections: moral, bodily, mental, sexual freedom, and the safeguard tyrannicide [...]".
  • Source2: Readdy, K. (2018). One Truth and One Spirit: Aleister Crowley's Spiritual Legacy. United States: Ibis Press, p 46. "The most controversial phrase appears at the end: '...' implying a safeguard against tyranny and oppression, lest these rights not be recognized for all."
    • Reviewed:
    • 5x expanded by Skyerise (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Skyerise (talk) 11:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC).

    • Comment only – the hook is falling foul of WP:EGG. The link to tyrannicide should point to tyrannicide the way this is written. Schwede66 04:19, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
      Point taken, I revised it. Skyerise (talk) 10:44, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
    • @Skyerise: I'm reviewing this. The article seems mostly good but I was concerned if you were relying on Crowley's primary source for the hook fact. However, it is Hymenaeus Beta's note that stated Liber OZ has the "controversial" assertion of the right to commit tyrannicide, right? I was wondering if HB actually used the word controversial in the writing; otherwise we'd probably need to remove the word from the hook. BorgQueen (talk) 01:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
      @BorgQueen: oops, I'd meant to have both Readdy and HB. Added the quote from Readdy above. It's Readdy that calls it controversial, and HB that confirms Crowley himself called it a "safeguard", this is not just an interpretation made by his biographers. Skyerise (talk) 02:30, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: None required.
    Overall: I don't know how well the subject matter will be received by those unfamiliar with Crowley or the occult in general, but the nomination meets the DYK requirements. BorgQueen (talk) 02:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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