Template:Did you know nominations/Marlowe Memorial
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 23:47, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
Nominator is no longer pursuing nomination; closing as it has no valid hook proposed
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Marlowe Memorial
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Edward Onslow Ford's The Muse of Poetry
... that the Lord Chief Justice of England caused Henry Irving to expose a scantily-clad muse in Canterbury Buttermarket to the objection of citizens?
Created by Tagishsimon (talk). Self-nominated at 17:07, 6 September 2016 (UTC).
@Tagishsimon: Date and length fine. However Canterbury Buttermarket isn't mentioned in the main body of the article. Also, I'm not quite seeing the outrage to the extent that the hook implies in the article either beyond a few complaints (though in conservative Kent at that time, I wouldn't be surprised). Just want to check is it meant for April Fools Day, just so I know before the no-fun police here potentially challenge it? Also the image used here isn't in the article. If you can fix these issues, i'll have another look. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 07:35, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking at this, @The C of E:. 1. Buttermarket is mentioned in the body (line 1, second para in the Memorial section. 2. Outrage. yes. I parleyed "some objections were raised to the statue's dishabille, especially so near the Cathedral" into that word. We might change the hook to "the the objection of citizens", were we unhappy? (And I've done this, for now.) 3. April fool? Was not my intention; I was more after a sort of WTF clickbait. I'm unfamiliar with the levels of misery exercised at DYK, so leave such decisions to others. 4. Image - agreed. It's IMO a more apppropriate image for the smaller image size which is used in DYK, and it it still Kitty. If there's a need to limit ourselves to a single image, then we can use the one in the article - File:Edward Onslow Ford (1852-1901) - The Muse of Poetry (1891) left, Marlowe Memorial nr Marlowe Theatre, The Friars, Canterbury, UK, October 2012 (8111622455).png - but ... even the aspect ratio of that concerns me for DYK. There you go: please let me have the benefit of your experience on these matters some more. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:12, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Tagishsimon: Thank you for clarifying. I have got no problem with the hook as it is, I'm just saying if I approve it just be aware of the no-fun brigade possibly passing comment. I have just noticed here that you have got 5 DYK credits so you will need to now do a QPQ before I can pass this. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 21:28, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking at this, @The C of E:. 1. Buttermarket is mentioned in the body (line 1, second para in the Memorial section. 2. Outrage. yes. I parleyed "some objections were raised to the statue's dishabille, especially so near the Cathedral" into that word. We might change the hook to "the the objection of citizens", were we unhappy? (And I've done this, for now.) 3. April fool? Was not my intention; I was more after a sort of WTF clickbait. I'm unfamiliar with the levels of misery exercised at DYK, so leave such decisions to others. 4. Image - agreed. It's IMO a more apppropriate image for the smaller image size which is used in DYK, and it it still Kitty. If there's a need to limit ourselves to a single image, then we can use the one in the article - File:Edward Onslow Ford (1852-1901) - The Muse of Poetry (1891) left, Marlowe Memorial nr Marlowe Theatre, The Friars, Canterbury, UK, October 2012 (8111622455).png - but ... even the aspect ratio of that concerns me for DYK. There you go: please let me have the benefit of your experience on these matters some more. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:12, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
QPQ (quid pro quo) required review has still not been done after six weeks. Posting final reminder on nominator's page. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:20, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
- QPQ: DYK for Air-Cobot - [1], [2]. I'll act on whatever response I get from Crazy runner, and continue with the DYK until passed or failed. Sorry to put you to extra trouble, BlueMoonset. --Tagishsimon (talk) 03:11, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
QPQ done, no close paraphrasing. Hook is ok, date and length as per original review. Good to go then. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:17, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
- I came to promote this, but really the hook is unsatisfactory. The decision to erect the monument was presumably made by the committee, of whom the Lord Chief Justice was merely the chairman. Also the "objections of citizens" seem to pretty mild. Additionally, any fact used in the hook needs an inline citation for the actual sentence in which it occurs. New hook needed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:21, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
- Superseding previous icon, since the nomination needs a new hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:28, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Tagishsimon is no longer pursuing this nomination (per talk page), so I'm marking this for closure. If someone else wants to propose a new hook and pursue the nomination, they'll need to do so before the nomination is closed. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:38, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
