Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Barber (natural historian)

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 16:26, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Mary Barber (natural historian)

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~~... that the collections of natural historian Mary Barber influenced Charles Darwin's deliberations on the role of moths in orchid pollination?~~

Comment: This article was created as part of the 2012 Ada Lovelace Day edit-a-thon.

Created/expanded by Seirian Sumner (talk) and Yoninah (talk). Nominated by Gobonobo (talk) at 05:36, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Article is new enough and long enough. However, although it includes a list of sources, it lacks inline citations per Rule D2. The lead and Early Life section are also written like a newspaper feature rather than a neutral encyclopedia entry. Yoninah (talk) 21:11, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

I've moved citations inline and have rewritten some of the more narrative bits. There is still some language there that reflects the attitudes towards women at the time, but it is being used to provide context. Gobōnobō ⁺ ^c 04:11, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I did a little more research and found a trove of information to add to the article. She is widely known as Mary Elizabeth Barber, so I moved the page there. I also linked her to other pages so this won't be an orphan. I would like to request co-credit for the article, as I expanded it by more than a third. I would also like to suggest this ALT hook, as the hook ref is stated in only one source and is not found in Charles Darwin's correspondence:
ALT1: ... that the collections of amateur natural historian Mary Elizabeth Barber may have influenced Charles Darwin's deliberations on the role of moths in orchid pollination? Yoninah (talk) 21:27, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the expansion. I've added you as a co-creator. Your hook is definitely better. This will need another review. Gobōnobō ⁺ ^c 17:47, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Why does it need another review? I didn't make up a new hook, I tweaked the old one by adding three words. What this nomination does need is an administrator to tweak the template so it reflects the new page name: Mary Elizabeth Barber. Offline hook ref AGF. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)