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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by feminist (talk) 19:07, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
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Omingonde Formation

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Restoration of Kannemeyeria
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Created by Tisquesusa (talk). Self-nominated at 19:48, 8 September 2018 (UTC).

  • This article is new enough and plenty long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. The image is appropriately licensed but is rather peripheral to the hook. This is your fifth DYK, so next time you will need to do a QPQ review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:12, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
  • The hook wording looks like a copyvio of the source. Yoninah (talk) 23:48, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, what? Copyvio is for large parts of text, not 11 words... it is the most proper and shortest possible description of the uniqueness of the formation. Tisquesusa (talk) 00:44, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
@Yoninah: Thoughts? Also to be on the safe side, I'd suggest rewording the hook: it does read too similarly to the quote. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:56, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
@Tisquesusa: copyvio is for 3 words or more as far as I understand. You cannot lift 11 words from a source to write your hook. Either put it in quotes (which is not the greatest idea) or paraphrase it, please. Yoninah (talk) 00:58, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
3 words or more? You're joking, Yoninah. Then every single paragraph in every article is "copyvio".

Then "preserves the most diverse faunal assemblage of cynodonts from the Middle Triassic in the world". Tisquesusa (talk) 01:10, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

@Tisquesusa: Sorry for being short with you. I guess that I would say copyvio is for a sentence. Since this sentence is copied out of the source, perhaps you should attribute it to them in the article ("So and so says that the formation preserves..."). But looking at the article, you juggled a lot of technical prose here. I'm sure you could paraphrase this statement. The formation has been cited as the world's largest preservation site of cynodonts from the Middle Triassic? (This also needs to be adjusted in the article.) Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:36, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
  • I have removed the copyvio phrase from two places in the article, since it has persisted for so long; it needs to be properly paraphrased or quoted if the information is going to be put back in (and if quoted, needs to be sourced in each place that it's quoted). Until it is, of course, the hook is not usable. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:46, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Narutolovehinata5, I pinged the nominator on their talk page on November 1; I'd give them at least seven days after that to turn up here to address the issues raised before thinking about closing this, assuming no one else shows up to make the necessary changes. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:10, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Normally, I would probably have waited at least a week after BlueMoonset's last comment. Unfortunately, as the nominator has not edited since October 21, and indeed has not edited the article since September and has been unable to address the paraphrasing concerns, unless either they come back soon or another editor takes this up, this is now marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:50, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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