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René Vallon
René Vallon
- ... that René Vallon (pictured) achieved both the first flight and first flight-related death in China?
- Source: Areddy, James T. (22 February 2011). "China Marks 100 Years of Flight". The Wall Street Journal. Shanghai. Archived from the original on 2 July 2022. Retrieved 6 November 2024.
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 703 past nominations.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC).
- I don't causing a death is an achievement. The first flight is. Kablammo (talk) 00:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- It was intended for brevity. How about ALT1 ... that René Vallon (pictured) achieved the first flight in China, but died less than three months later in the country's first aviation accident? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. Kablammo (talk) 01:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I wonder if another verb would work, such as: "... that R V is known for both..." ProfGray (talk) 03:03, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- That could work too. ALT0a ... that René Vallon (pictured) is known for both the first flight and the first flight-related death in China? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0a could be revised since the wording is rather vague and doesn't make it clear that he was the first flight-related death in China. The hook could be interpreted to mean he was involved in the death without saying he was the fatality. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0b: ... that René Vallon (pictured) is known for both achieving the first flight and being the first flight-related death in China? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:49, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0a could be revised since the wording is rather vague and doesn't make it clear that he was the first flight-related death in China. The hook could be interpreted to mean he was involved in the death without saying he was the fatality. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- That could work too. ALT0a ... that René Vallon (pictured) is known for both the first flight and the first flight-related death in China? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- I wonder if another verb would work, such as: "... that R V is known for both..." ProfGray (talk) 03:03, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. Kablammo (talk) 01:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- It was intended for brevity. How about ALT1 ... that René Vallon (pictured) achieved the first flight in China, but died less than three months later in the country's first aviation accident? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC)