- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 12:54, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Serenidus of Saulges, Oratory of Saint Cénéré, Serenicus
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Serenidus and his spring in the Oratory of Saint Cénéré
Created by Evrik (talk) and Rei Momo (talk). Nominated by Evrik (talk) at 20:50, 3 May 2022 (UTC).
On it.
Wow, that was the easiest review ever. @Evrik: you forgot to source the one thing you find most interesting about the article. Since it's also the most scurrilous part, it would need the cite even if you come up with other ALTs. — LlywelynII 12:18, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @LlywelynII: The source was accidentally removed. I have added it back. --evrik (talk) 19:46, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Full review needed of all three nominated articles. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:05, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I shall review this.
It will take a little longer than usual because there are three articles, albeit short ones. I shall have to do several reviewus-interruptus saves which may look messy. So patience please. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 09:18, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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Thank you, Evrik, for an interesting article.
- "Little pissing saint" now has its citation. It was misplaced in the text, so I moved it.
However the last para is not sourced. The article would survive without that paragraph: I suggest that if we cannot find sources for it, then it can be moved to the talk page until sources are found.The hook picture is only used in the oratory article; for DYK it needs to be in the Serenidus and Serenicus articles as well.- The QPQ for this one is the Free Comic Book Day review.
Summary: if the picture could be repeated in all three articles, and If the last para can be moved to the article talk page (until sources are found), then the Serenidus article would pass DYK. This now passes DYK. Storye book (talk)
- @Storye book: I sourced the paragraph, but for the DYK, I have commented out the passage. --evrik (talk) 19:04, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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Overall: Thank you for this useful article, Evrik, about a little-known saint.
- This Serenicus article was created on 27 May, after the nomination on 3 May, but triples are often combined long after the first nomination of the set, so I am accepting this as new enough AGF.
- The QPQ for this one is the 2022 Sweden riots.
- I found it confusing that the name of this saint which appeared at the beginning of the lead was identical to that of his brother Serenidus, i.e. exactly the same name appeared at the top of both leads. So I changed it to match this source. If my edit is wrong, please adjust it.
- The Serenicus article has a citation confirming that Serenidus and Serenicus were brothers.
I am not sure whether the image for this triple nom should appear in this Serenicus article, as it is not relevant to it, although it should definitely appear in the other two articles. I have asked a question about it, below.
Summary: This Serenicus article passes DYK. should pass DYK, if we don't have to include the DYK nom image in it (I await an answer from BlueMoonset to my question). Storye book (talk) 12:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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Overall: Thank you, Evrik, for this article.
This article has 1465 characters. It needs at least 1500 characters.- The QPQ for this article is Christ Smalls.
Summary: the only niggle is the length. If you can resolve that, then this article should pass DYK. This article now passes DYK. Storye book (talk) 13:02, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Two reviews pending. Please be patient. Storye book (talk) 10:12, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
All three reviews are now complete. Nominator, please see above individual article reviews to see which issues need to be resolved. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 13:02, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Storye book, I added a couple of sentences to bring the article to 1848 characters. --evrik (talk) 19:04, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Rei Momo: Please see the above three reviews. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 13:05, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: Please could you kindly confirm whether a picture DYK on a triple nom has to have the picture on all three articles? In this case, the picture is only relevant to the hook and to two of the articles - so I'm not sure about the rules here. Storye book (talk) 11:56, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Storye book, the image has to appear in at least one of the articles but not all; if it's being used to illustrate one of them in the hook, then it should certainly appear in that article. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:03, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Super. Thank you. I have adjusted the reviews accordingly.
There are still some issues to resolve. Storye book (talk) 14:16, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Storye book: all issues should have been addressed. Thanks! --evrik (talk) 19:04, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, evrik - sorry you had to wait for two months for this. This nom is good to go, with ALT0 and picture. Storye book (talk)
- @Storye book and Evrik: the hook says that the person was called "the little pissing saint", while the article says the statue was referred to that way – which is it? I only have access to the blog source, not the book, so I can't say for certain. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 03:52, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Thank you for spotting that. If the sources give us any choice in the matter, I would rather that the hook referred to the statue, because (at least officially) certain religious groups are not supposed to confuse the deity or holy person with their statue - or in effect to worship idols. A long time ago I bought a statue of Guanyin at a temple in China and brought it home. A Chinese friend scolded me for calling it "Guanyin" instead of "statue of Guanyin". So yes, we have to be careful with language, there. evrik, please could we have an ALT1 which says maybe something like: ... that a statue of Serenidus, the brother of Serenicus, is called the "the little pissing saint" because a spring issues from below it in the Oratory of Saint Cénéré (pictured)? Storye book (talk) 09:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, sorry, evrik, my bad. Thank you for your patience. Storye book (talk) 16:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- GTG (this time) with ALT1 and picture. Storye book (talk) 16:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Thank you, Evrik, for an interesting article.
