Template:Did you know nominations/Welsh Streets, Liverpool

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:20, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Welsh Streets, Liverpool

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9 Madryn Street in Liverpool, birthplace of Ringo Starr

... that the Welsh Streets in Liverpool, England, birthplace of The Beatles drummer Ringo Starr, was nearly demolished?
- ALT1:... that the British TV series Peaky Blinders used a derelict Powis Street, part of the Welsh Streets in Liverpool, England, to double as Birmingham's 1920s Watery Lane?
- ALT2:... that the birthplace (pictured) of Beatles drummer Ringo Starr in the Welsh Streets in Liverpool, England, was nearly demolished in the 2000s?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cable Haunt

Improved to Good Article status by Bungle (talk). Self-nominated at 12:30, 18 April 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hi Bungle, congrats on the GA. I'm sure this can pass, but I have a few quibbles. Firstly I like ALT0 but feel it could be snappier, perhaps that the birthplace (pictured) of Beatles drummer Ringo Starr in the Welsh Streets in Liverpool, England, was nearly demolished in the 2000s? ~~Secondly, which citation is being used? Thirdly, do you need to do the QPQ? I'd also like to add that this is only my second DYK review, so a second reviewer opinion would be welcome.~~ Mujinga (talk) 10:51, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Mujinga (talk) 11:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the review Mujinga. I agree the hook could be snappier and take your point on the citation (the article made clear all streets were saved, but I have added another cite to make this explicit for Ringo's old home). I have yet to a do a qpq as I have been so absorbed in developing a new article the last few days! Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:10, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Bungle, it has been over three weeks since the above post. If you wish to continue pursuing this DYK nomination, please provide the required QPQ in the next few days. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:03, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: I thought I had posted a QPQ here on this nomination shortly after my last message? Admittedly I asked for another opinion and I see there was further activity subsequent to this. Would this count or would I need to do another one seeing as others got involved too? Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:15, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, Bungle, I missed the addition of the QPQ. Mujinga, if the initial review is complete in that it covers all the criteria, then it counts even if someone else takes over later. The only error I noted in the QPQ was that it missed the fact that the nomination had been moved to mainspace and therefore would be considered new as of that date rather than late, but the nomination said "Created" rather than "Moved to mainspace", so it's an understandable thing to have overlooked (though if a nomination looks late, it's always a good idea to check the article history to see whether it was moved to mainspace at some point). BlueMoonset (talk) 17:20, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Hiya as reviewer I was waiting for an update but actually missed the QPQ change. I'm still quite new at DYK but feel more confident after doing some other reviews and I'm happy to carry on. ~~I'd also like some clarity on whether a review in process can count as QPQ or not. As of now, I'm waiting on the QPQ to be completed,~~ waiting on the hook becoming snappier and happy with the second ref which I don't think says anything specific about Starr's house but does say "The street, one of the 'Welsh streets' in Dingle, had been boarded up for years awaiting demolition, but was saved by a refurbishment project." Mujinga (talk) 10:03, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Cool so the only thing left now is making the hook a bit snappier Mujinga (talk) 11:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Mujinga: I am happy with your suggested hook and added it as another alternative (alt2). @BlueMoonset: Please advise how to progress the nomination either way, as it's been a little over a month now. Thanks. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:04, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Bungle, the nomination/review can still proceed—the next step is Mujinga's, to check ALT2, and either complete the review or ask for further work. BlueMoonset (talk) 12:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Hiya ALT2 looks great this is good to go! Cheers, Mujinga (talk) 14:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I came by to promote this. Please provide an inline cite in the article for this sentence: Ringo Starr, drummer for The Beatles, was born in 9 Madryn Street, where he lived until the age of 4 before moving to nearby Admiral Grove. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:52, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

- Yoninah - Done. KJP1 (talk) 22:06, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Restoring tick. Yoninah (talk) 22:18, 26 May 2020 (UTC)