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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:07, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

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Yang Pao-an

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Yang Pao-an
Yang Pao-an
  • Source: Meng, Hong (24 May 2021). "杨匏安：对党"公忠不可忘"的先驱" [Yang Pao-an: A Pioneer Who Was "Unforgettable in His Loyalty to the Party"]. People's Daily (in Chinese). Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party. Archived from the original on 3 September 2024. Retrieved 3 September 2024.
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 678 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC).

  • Please note that there is currently a move request on the talk page.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Move request has closed. Article should be okay. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Crisco 1492: Hi Chris! Overall, this is a well-sourced and well-written article. It was submitted on the day it was created, so it is new enough. Earwig also shows that the article is copyvio free. However, I have some concerns about the hook. I do not find it particularly interesting, and the reason for Yang's execution is not clearly conveyed. The People's Daily source cited in this nomination mentions that Chiang Kai-shek personally called Yang before ordering his execution, which is a much clearer and more interesting detail for a hook in my opinion. But this is just a suggestion for possible amendments to the hook, and it is not compulsory. If the nominator prefers to keep the current hook, that is perfectly fine with me as well. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Hi Prince of Erebor. That tidbit is mentioned in several of the sources. However, given that they are all state media, and their likelihood of being non-neutral in detailing Chiang Kai-shek, I'm a bit iffy reporting it as objective fact (I think at least one mentions that he basically threw the phone in response). I can add a few lines making it clear that this comes from a state source, then we can do an ALT. Let me revisit the sources. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:04, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
ALT2 ... that Chiang Kai-shek was reported to have ordered the execution of Yang Pao'an (pictured) after the latter threw a phone against a wall?
ALT3 ... that Yang Pao'an (pictured) refused to forsake the Chinese Communist Party, reportedly even after a personal telephone call from generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek?


@Crisco 1492: Thanks for your swift reply and update! It is true that state media should not be taken at face value, but it appears that all the other sources cited in the Later years and death section, such as China Daily and The Paper, are also state-owned, leaving us with limited options. Perhaps we could consider ALT3, as it seems to address concerns about neutrality and skepticism regarding the details of the supposed private conversation between Chiang and Yang?
I think it is ready to go now! —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 17:49, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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