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Carex pilulifera, Myrmica ruginodis

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk)

• ... that the seeds of the European sedge Carex pilulifera (pictured) are dispersed by the ant Myrmica ruginodis?

• Reviewed: Elisabeth Croft ([1])
• Comment: Other images are available; few of the sedge images work at this scale, but there are plenty of the ant to choose from if desired.

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 07:12, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Please add a comment and signature (or just a signature if endorsing) after each aspect you have reviewed:
Hook

• Length, format, content rules: OK Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
• Source: OK Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
• Interest: Good Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
• Image suitability, if applicable: OK Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
• ALT hooks, if proposed:

ALT 1... that the seeds of the European sedge Carex pilulifera are dispersed by the ant Myrmica ruginodis (pictured)?

Only suggesting the use of a different picture, and thus repositioning the "(pictured)" text. Although I'm a botanist by training, I think the ant picture is much more visually interesting than the sedge inflorescence. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:14, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

I can see your point, but I would prefer the sedge picture if possible, simply because sedges are so frequently overlooked. This is my own little attempt to counter systemic bias; everyone knows ants, but most people wouldn't know a sedge if they sat on one. Even grasses (ugh!) seem popular by comparison. --Stemonitis (talk) 05:31, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Images with DYK are usually selected for their visual draw, and I suspect that were the sedge picture the only choice, then the nominted hook would not be placed in the lead position at all. Most sedge flowers are visually uninteresting, and so wouldn't be likely to feature on the Main Page. As someone who specializes in bryophytes, and who has tried to take photogenic pictures of algae, "I feel your pain". --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:49, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Article

• Length: The 2 articles are long enough. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
• Vintage: Date correct. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
• Sourcing (V, RS, BLP): No problem Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
• Neutrality: No problem. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
• Plagiarism/close paraphrasing:References are not online so difficult to check this. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
• Copyvio: No problem. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
• Obvious faults in prose, structure, formatting: None Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Comments/discussion: I would prefer: ALT2 ... that the seeds of the European sedge Carex pilulifera (pictured) may be dispersed by the ant Myrmica ruginodis? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

• Myrmecochory is so cool! Did you know that many stick insect eggs are also dispersed by ants? Where seeds have an elaiosome to tempt the ants, the eggs have a spare edible structure called a capitulum. Sharktopus ^talk 03:31, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
• Based on the above review. I have no preference for ALT. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:07, 6 August 2011 (UTC)