Template talk:Did you know/National Benevolent Fund for the Aged
National Benevolent Fund for the Aged
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk)
- ... that Clementine Churchill (pictured) became president of the National Benevolent Fund for the Aged in 1972?
- Comment: moved from user space August 1, (DYK clock starts then) moved to new title August 3; note original author (not me) needs to change user name
Created by Nbfa (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 22:23, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
- Verified the hook, but doesn't seem very interesting for DYK purposes. The thing about the "long tradition of links to the Churchill family" sounds interesting, but I can't find anything about it in the sources—seems to be an issue of WP:SYNTH. Article date and length are okay, and I don't see any signs of copyright violations. (I'd use the new review template... but I can't find it.) – VisionHolder « talk » 00:39, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Please add a comment and signature (or just a signature if endorsing) after each aspect you have reviewed:
Hook
- Length, format, content rules: Good
- Source: Good
- Interest: Questioned—see comments
- Image suitability, if applicable: Good
- ALT hooks, if proposed: ALT1 ... that the National Benevolent Fund for the Aged held tea party fund-raisers?
Article
- Length: Yes
- Vintage: Yes
- Sourcing (V, RS, BLP): Maybe—see comments below
- Neutrality: Yes
- Plagiarism/close paraphrasing: Clear
- copyvio (images): Good
- Obvious faults in prose, structure, formatting: Good
Comments/discussion:
Well at least I though "Clemmie" was "interesting", but that is a matter of taste. I added an ALT1 hook that might appeal more to the people in the states. I added yet more citations (numbers 3, 6, 7, 8, and 9 now) that support the Churchill connection. Not sure what Synth you mean; I removed the word "long" since I suppose concluding that 39 years is "long" is also an opinion (simple arithmetic is allowed, not synthesis). Please take another look someone. Thanks. W Nowicki (talk) 21:25, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
- I apologize on the "interest" issue. Being a U.S. citizen, I'm not familiar with how well-known Clemmie was. I know Winston Churhill, but I had never heard of his wife. The original hook would probably be fine, especially if you said in parentheses that it was Winston Churchill's widow, like you do in the article. With the alt hook, I'm not sure how reliable that source is, but it appears to be there. As for the synth, I was worried you were taking information from multiple sources and making your own observations. It can be a fine line, but I thought I'd point it out. You have since worded it much better. As long as others are okay with the first hook, I think this one is ready to go. – VisionHolder « talk » 13:16, 8 August 2011 (UTC)