Template talk:Filipino sainthood

Requested move 9 May 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved (non-admin closure) --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 02:28, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

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Template:Filipino saints, blesseds and servants of God → Template:Filipino sainthood – Add venerables (another step on the way to sainthood) Elizium23 (talk) 21:40, 9 May 2020 (UTC)—Relisted. – Ammarpad (talk) 10:30, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

• Move to Filipino sainthood or Filipino canonization per WP:CONCISE. Although editors won't be typing this in much, it's hard to take it all in when reading it in the navbox title. Surely a navbox should cover one topic so a list of the four subtopics is inadequate.

  I note by the way that List of Filipino saints, blesseds, and Servants of God uses a capital "S" on "Servants" whereas this template and the article Servant of God use lowercase.

  If we just want to avoid breaking the "vte" links (per User:Redrose64's ES in e.g. this edit), just change the pipe in the title= parameter. 178.164.139.126 (talk) 03:38, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

  In a {{Navbox}}, the |name= parameter has exactly one purpose: to set the destinations of the little "v-t-e" links that appear top left. This means that its value must match the actual name of the template, omitting the Template: prefix; so as things presently stand, |name=Filipino saints, blesseds and servants of God is the only valid value. It is not displayed at all, so making an apparently-aesthetic change (such as adding the word "venerables") will not just leave the appearance alone, it will break the links because the template is not called Template:Filipino saints, blesseds, venerables and servants of God. If this template does get moved, the |name= parameter must also be updated to the new name straight away otherwise the v-t-e links will point to the old location, and people wishing to edit the template will find themselves editing a redirect instead.

  The text at the top of the navbox (to the right of those v-t-e links) is set by the |title= parameter, and can be anything you like, within reason. It may contain links (piped or otherwise). It doesn't even have to be close to the template name, so you can set it to e.g. |title=Holy people of the Philippines if you like, and that's fine; so long as the |name= parameter doesn't get misused. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

• I am amenable to moving to "Filipino sainthood" or something similar that does not explicitly exclude venerables. And actually, the "Servant of God" article capitalizes it where it is used as a title conferred by the Catholic Church, such as here. So my initial request is, admitted, malformed. Elizium23 (talk) 10:47, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

As is the current title. Same ed, new IP 94.21.252.238 (talk) 02:40, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• Comment to be clear, you're not proposing to turn this into an article, but to keep it in template-space, right? Your proposed name right now is in article-space -- 65.94.170.207 (talk) 03:39, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I have updated the proposal to reflect the discussion and the namespace. My mistake. Elizium23 (talk) 06:58, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support The current title is lengthy. Likewise, List of Filipino saints, blesseds, and Servants of God has the same issue. Jerm (talk) 17:29, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.