Template talk:Indian Independence Movement
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Template is biased
editThis template is BIASED. The British are "figures" and the Indians are "freedom fighters". It also seems that a number of Muslims who were part of the independence movement, and later plumped for Pakistan, are missing. Viewing this purely from an Indian nationalist POV, when it involved three other new nations, is extremely biased. I suggest that this template is NOT NEEDED and that categories can do the job. Zora 21:43, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- (a) The "figures" - "freedom fighters" problem has been addressed. (2) There is a "More" link that needs to be used for information on freedom fighters, British statesmen, political parties, etc. Thus a biography of Muhammad Ali Jinnah or Allama Iqbal, Muslim leaders who "plumped" for Pakistan can be obtained there, if not elsewhere. (3) There is no Indian nationalist POV here, but understand that it is about the "Indian Independence Movement" (4) "Pakistan Movement" was not a part of the freedom struggle - they can get their own bloody template. (5) Pakistan came into being in 1947, and Bangladesh in 1971. Thus there was only one nation involved in this 100 year struggle. Rama's Arrow 22:10, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Physical layout
editThe images in the top line (with the eight images) wrap on 800×600 and 600×480 screens. Four images need to be removed to ensure the images stay on one line for the smaller screen resolutions. Greentubing 06:08, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Problem is addressed. Rama's Arrow 07:20, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
No. of freedom fighters
editI've said it before elsewhere and at the risk of sounding repetitive, I'll say it again. There are too many freedom fighters in the template and despite that, notable omissions such as Bipin Chandra Pal, Tanguturi Prakasam and Bhogaraju Pattabhi Sitaramayya. It is always better to let the categories do their job and have a small list in the template. I am disappointed with this mushrooming of names again. --Gurubrahma 14:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yes you're right - in an effort to balance the representation of different freedom fighters, things got out of hand. I also thought that the reduced size of fonts may have solved the problem. I will rectify the problem. Rama's Arrow 14:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
- However, I think that 2 lines is ok. I don't want to reduce more becoz this template should properly identify the 1857 rebels, early Congressmen, Gandhians and revolutionaries. Thanks, Rama's Arrow 14:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
This template needs a new name
editEveryone who edits an article containing this template is exposed to the blatantly biased phrase "IndiaFreedom". Olborne 12:25, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
There is ZERO bias. Indian independence movement is a conventional, universal name for this series of political events. And as independence and freedom mean the same, there is NO need to make foolish changes. Rama's arrow - this Fire burns always 15:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
wrapping
editThe wrapping is still a problem. Have to remove a couple of items, otherwise the "incidents" and "leaders" sections are wrapping onto a new line in several articles. Hornplease 06:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Publications
editIt has entered my mind that a separate section for publications could be an added bonus to this template. What do others think?Harrypotter 13:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Jinnah
editI can fully understand why some editors may want to include Jinnah, but I strongly disagree:
- This is a summarizing template. We don't have to name every possible leader/politician - just a few notables. That way, Jinnah is indirectly a part of this template, which links to the Category:Indian independence activists, of which Jinnah is a part.
- Once he became leader of the Muslim League, Jinnah often co-operated with the British. With the Pakistan movement 'n all, it just opens up a debate we don't need at a summarizing template. Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 12:15, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Kakori Conspiracy
editSince there were two pictures of 1930 related to the Gandhian non-violent movement hence I have replace one with the group photo of Kakori Case Accused Ram Prasad Bismil, Ashfaqulla Khan and others.Dr.'Krant'M.L.Verma (talk•Email)Krantmlverma (talk) 17:44, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
- Somebody had removed the Kakori conspiracy from the list of events which was not genuine at all. I have this day added it in this template. Please honourAwadhesh.Pandey (talk) 05:42, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
File:Accused of Kakori Case 1925.jpg
editPreviously I had uploaded the above file in this tempelated which is not visible now. Kindly check it from wikimedia commons and fix its upload again. This is a historical image which must be restored..Dr.'Krant'M.L.Verma (talk•Email)Krantmlverma (talk) 14:52, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- Somebody had removed the File:Accused of Kakori Case 1925.jpg from the template which was not genuine at all in my personal opinion. I have this day added it in this template. Please honour it, thanks. Awadhesh.Pandey (talk) 05:48, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Mangal Pandey
editSince there was an image of Dutch East India Company in this template which was irrelevent to the subject of Indian independence movement hence I have replaced it by another image of Mangal Pandey- a hero of 1857.Dr.'Krant'M.L.Verma (talk•Email)Krantmlverma (talk) 16:31, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
- Somebody had removed the File:Mangal Pandey393.gif from the template which was not genuine at all in my personal opinion. I have this day added it in this template. Please honour it, thanks. Awadhesh.Pandey (talk) 05:51, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 13 December 2017
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As a doctoral research fellow of modern Indian history and a conscious citizen; I draw the attention towards a grave omission from independence activists template.The names of eminent freedom fighters Anugrah Narayan Sinha (Gandhi Ji's close associate in 1917 Champaran Satyagraha),Rajendra Prasad ( Gandhi Ji's close associate in 1917 Champaran Satyagraha) & Sachchidananda Sinha, ( first President of Constituent Assembly of India) {All these three eminent freedom fighters, icons & nationalists were also members of Indian constituent Assembly after Independence.Hope they will be rightfully included 47.29.54.211 (talk) 07:57, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
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Template-protected edit request on 8 April 2018
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Please add Praja Mandala movement to the Movements section. Sitush (talk) 00:59, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Done the entries don't seem to be in any particular order currently? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Edit request 9th May 2018
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Change link Cripp's mission to Cripps Mission following pagemove. DuncanHill (talk) 12:10, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- Done Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:21, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 12:33, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Edit request 9th May 2018 number 2
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Just noticed another, please change Indische Legion to Indian Legion in the "Events and Movements" section. DuncanHill (talk) 12:36, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- Done Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:56, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks again. DuncanHill (talk) 13:04, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 5 February 2020
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- Pritilata Waddedar mentioned twice in the Independence activists section of the template so omit the duplicate entry.--Vijay Barot (talk) 18:53, 5 February 2020 (UTC) Vijay Barot (talk) 18:53, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:54, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 18 April 2020
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Please include the 1781 revolt in Bihar under the history section. YaRaabAlHind (talk) 17:43, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- To editor YaRaabAlHind: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. This is a large template filled with links. Any additions will require agreement among the template's editors. P.I. Ellsworth ed. put'r there 00:06, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 6 May 2020
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Add Anarchism and Communism to the section on Philosophies and ideologies. Grnrchst (talk) 00:06, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
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template. This template looks particularly specific to Indian topics, of which neither anarchism nor communism are such. Izno (talk) 01:42, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Events and Movements - Sublists
editThis list could be split into two based on 1. Pre and post WWI or 2. Pre and post involvement of MK Gandhi in the Indian Independence Movement. Tharun S Yadla (talk) 07:07, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Independence activists - Subcategorization
editAlthough a significant number of notable activists could not be included in this list as this is quite overcrowded already, we may consider subcategorizing based on activists who are politicians, jurists, industrialists, philosophers etc., Tharun S Yadla (talk) 07:11, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
British leaders
editIs the ordering of British leaders random? DuncanHill (talk) 22:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Edit request
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History link at top left needs to be changed to History DuncanHill (talk) 23:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Recognition of Veer Savarkar
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Include Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh in Organisations and Veer Savarkar in freedom fighters. That would be homage to his contributions. Please, Jai Hind 103.238.106.254 (talk) 15:54, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template-protected edit request on 19 August 2021
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Add Velu Nachiyar as part of this link. She was the first woman from India to fight for the freedom. 72.68.68.54 (talk) 01:19, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: The movement spanned from 1857 to 1947. She was not alive at that time. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:24, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
New section?
editListing Siraj-ud-daulah, Shuja-ud-daulah and Bahadur Shah II as "Independence activists" is odd. They were sovereign rulers from a different generation and were not directly connected to the later independence movement (in the case of Bahadur Shah, merely a figurehead and not an activist). Perhaps include them (alongside Tipu Sultan, Shah Alam II, the Rani of Jhansi, Kittur Chennamma, etc.) as "involved Indian royalty"? W. Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/c) 11:44, 2 February 2023 (UTC)