Template talk:Infobox WorldScouting

Image

I'm not sure of the purpose of this infobox, but you might want to switch the image to "Scoutsgreengoldnoscroll.png". --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:46, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Done, Ed, and what I intend to do (though it doesn't yet look right) can be seen at Afghan Scout Association. Chris 01:56, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Wim!

Thanks, brother, you've done a great job! Are you familiar with Piet Kroonenberg? Chris 18:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for the kind words. I don't know mr Kroonenberg personally, but I know of him. Not enough to do an article, though. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 20:52, 30 July 2006 (UTC).

Chief Scout problems

At the moment, this infobox is used on both the WAGGGS and WOSM pages. This means that the top people in these organisations are labelled "Chief Scout". I agree these names should be in the infobox, but neither of these people are in fact Chief Scouts of the organisations. Could this be fixed somehow?

Also, in the template the chiefscout field desciption indicates 'name of president or equivalent'. Some organisations have presidents and Chief scouts (like The Scout Association). Could this be looked into as well? Thank you. Kingbird 17:29, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

• What do you wat, Kingbird? How about making the text 'Chief Scout or equivalent'? The template is about scout organizations and such, so I'd rather keep the Chief Scout denomination. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 20:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC).

Another problem: the WOSM entry has this template, too. Who should go there? I put B.-P., as the only World Chief Scout ever. But previously there was the chairman of the committee (who has no special role in WOSM).

Yet another problem: what about Guide associations?

My proposal: change to "head" or something as generic.

--Lou Crazy 01:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

There is no problem, merely a difference in interpretation. The 'chiefscout' field in the template is intented to list the current head of the organization. As this template is about Scout organizations and similary entities, this is often a Chief Scout. To make the template more generic, I added 'or equiv.' it. And the World Scout Committee it the executive board of the WOSM, so the chairman of it is the person intended in this field. He does not need any special role other than being the head of the organization. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 19:06, 8 October 2006 (UTC).

If the field is to list the head of an organization, then "head" is a better term. Chief scout is wrong with respect to all guide associations, and a "president" is not equivalent to a chief scout (that's why so many associations have both roles). For WOSM, let's discuss it in the WOSM page. --Lou Crazy 23:01, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

The head or president or chairman or chief or whatsoever. It being a Scout subject, the heads are typically known as Chief Scout or equivalent, which is exactly as it is reading now. So not only the issue of the WOSM is solved, in my humble opinion it is generic enough now. Thanks for pointing this opportunity out, and for suggestion the improvement. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 23:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

It isn't generic enough yet. Unless we want a separate infobox for guide organizations, we can't use the word "scout".

Look at it now... --Lou Crazy 23:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

• Nah, don't like it. But I'll let other decide, otherwise we'll wind up reverting. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 19:16, 9 October 2006 (UTC).
  • I have added an optional field chiefscouttitle where you can add any title of your choice. See AGESCI and WAGGGS for a really heady implementations, or The Scout Association for default behaviour. And it's only used when chiefscout is available too. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 20:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC).
    • Sorry I haven't been able to contribute in the last few days. I think the solution is better than anything I would have suggested. Thank you for getting this sorted out so fast. Kingbird 01:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

It looks perfect now. The solution you used for AGESCI and WOSM looks OK. I'd just add a note in the comments, if you don't mind. --Lou Crazy 01:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Logos in the template

I tried the template on AGESCI and the logo was rescaled badly. What can be done about it? --Lou Crazy 23:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

• Don't use GIFs. They scale badly. See the same file as PNG in the article now. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 19:15, 9 October 2006 (UTC).

Didn't know that. I'll add a note in the comments. --Lou Crazy 01:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Portal

Why don't we add the portal to the bottom of the box? --evrik ^(talk) 02:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, why don't we? I don't know, so I did. ;-) Wim van Dorst (Talk) 18:08, 11 November 2006 (UTC).

The text Portal: Scouting is difficult to see on the olive background. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 17:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

• True, it is the default link colour. I don't mind it being a little low-key. There's always the real Portal button in the See Also section. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 23:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC).
  • We don't use the portal box when we use one of the Scouting infoboxes. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 23:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
    • We don't? New to me, Ed. I tested Gilwell Park, Scouting, Boy Scouts of America and Scouting Nederland and always found both the infobox (right top), and the portal button (in See Also). Wim van Dorst (Talk) 16:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC).

From Wikipedia:WikiProject_Scouting#Templates: Scouting Portal: Please put this on all article main pages in the See also section unless it uses the BSA box, which it includes it. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

What about if we were to put the actual portal box right inside the info box, so it would show up and would automatically be transcluded? Chris 19:21, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

You can't include the template of the portal, as it will show all wrong alignment (tried it). Instead I emphasized the link of the portal, equivalent to the portal button, and I added the logo. As we chose the colours of the infobox to be similar to a colour of the logo, that part doesn't show up. And personally, I think that logo here overdone. Unless you all start yelling here that it is excellent, I'll remove it again. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 20:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC).

That looks pretty good now. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Scouting

I think this should show Scouting in each type name instead of Scout. Thus Scouting campsite, Scouting organization, etc. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 14:44, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

• edited. Now, especially the Scouting Organization comes out very wide in my browser, wrapping to two lines. How is it on the other screens? Wim van Dorst (Talk) 20:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC).
• added 1/17th of an em, now it fits. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 21:00, 17 February 2007 (UTC).

Looks good. Thanks for listening to my nitpicking. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed that {{Infobox nrhp}} has the coordinates actually in the infobox. This makes it more obvious what those numbers are for. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 11:38, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

• Hi Ed, nice idea. To find out how it works, I browsed to the articles that link to the template, and found that the optional coordinates are not often used (I found one out of ten I tried). And I can understand why: the coordinates templates (it is a whole range) are very tough to get to work at all. The information is not easily changed from the one format to the other. Therefore is is difficult to provide the coordinates information in the form as chosen for this template. And it misses out on the important additional info in the coord templates as well. So bottomline, I wouldn't know which coordinates template to implement, although I find the idea appealing. Would you have any idea how? On the other hand, the coordinates in the right hand top corner are getting pretty common in Wikipedia, so I guess people get to recognizes those numbers for what they are. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 21:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC).

I think I got this. See Template:Infobox_WorldScouting/testcases for samples. The updated template is in Template:Infobox_WorldScouting/sandbox. I put this under the location. The only minor issue is the font size. At the standard 95%, the coord break across a line; at 90% there is no break but the font is smaller than the rest. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 11:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Long image names

FYI- If you have a long image name the image will not show unless you replace the spaces with underscores. For example, Image:Boy Scouts of America 50-Miler Award Patch.jpg would not show until I changed it to image = Boy_Scouts_of_America_50-Miler_Award_Patch.jpg. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 20:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

• Hi Ed, I tried it out (see my talk page), and found no problems. Are you sure there wasn't a typo or something else wrong? Uppercase/lowercase, perhaps? Wim van Dorst (Talk) 21:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC).
  • Figured it out. If you include image-size = with no parameter, then it will not show the image. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 03:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Enhancements

A few ideas that might be nice:

• Included co-ordinates
• Website (see {{Infobox German Location}} for an example)
• Second image

--Gadget850 ( Ed) 22:43, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Removal of Default Image

Would it be possible to have an option so as we don't see the default image? Or to remove the default image all together? It makes Scouting in Victoria very cluttered but I don't want to remove the infoboxes. :: maelgwn :: talk 06:05, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I made a change to that article. If you don't like it, just revert it. The infobox is designed for one use per article with the box directly referring to the subject of the article, not multiple uses per article. You can also use the option image-size option, see template's main page. Rlevse 10:29, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Aye, didnt think of that. Thanks :: maelgwn :: talk 13:06, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

You can use:

| image = blank.png | image-size = 1px

--Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

wording at top

Must it bear the name "Scouting organization"? The country infobox Template:Infobox Country doesn't likewise say "Country" at the top, it goes right into the country's name in multiple languages. It's kind of distracting and looks weird on the main Scouting article. Could we instead have the top area be where the name of the organization is in its native language, and the English name below the emblem? Chris 04:18, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

User:NThurston can code options like that, just like our project infobox.10:56, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

• The wording in the top is defined by the TYPE. In this way it makes it possible to use the same infobox for organizations, campsites, awards, etc. By using this type in the top line, there is consistency over all Scouting organizations, and over all Scouting campsites, etc, that I think is good. And it clearly indicates what this infobox is all about. Using the name in the top line again next to the same name of the article just to the left of it (as indeed is not uncommon in WP) is in my perception a layout error. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 12:50, 8 July 2007 (UTC).

Not if the native name itself is in another script, or if we go to all-English names, as perennially comes up. Chris 18:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

The same style is also used at Template:Infobox Person. Layout error or not, it seems to be the more Wiki-acceptable way to have an infobox. Chris 18:50, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Seems to be fine in its current format. --NThurston 19:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Coords

I added coordinates to a test version of the infobox at {{Infobox_WorldScouting/sandbox}}. See Template:Infobox_WorldScouting/testcases for samples. The only minor issue is the font size; at the standard 95%, the coords break across a line. The only way I see to do fix without making the font smaller is to make the infobox a bit wider. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 22:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Changing the infobox width from 18 to 19em resolves the line break on the coords; this would also give a bit more room for longer URLs on the website field. The testcases shows 18 vs. 19em boxes. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 12:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't see a difference, in both boxes the coords break across a line. --Egel _Reaction? 14:36, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Odd—I don't see that in either Firefox or IE7. How about now, at 20em? --Gadget850 ( Ed) 11:33, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Default image

I'm really thinking that it would be better if the image were blank by default. Using the generic logo in an article instead of the organizational logo is not a good practice— it could be considered rather POV, and it becomes a decorative image rather than a useful image. We should use the generic logo only for truly generic articles such as Scouting, Boy Scout, Cub Scout and the like. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 21:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Updates

I would like to make a few changes:

• Add coordinates
• Increase the box width from 18em to 20em 22em so that the coordinates don't break across the line
• Remove the default image

The updated template is in the sandbox and examples are in testcases. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

• support, it has a nice Wikiocity to it. Chris 02:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
• Support new version. Will the expanded width accomodate the 'longest/widest' lat/long coordinates possible? No sense changing it if it won't work with all places. —ScouterSig 14:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

You got me on that. I expanded the test to three digits on the degrees and found I had to expand the box width. Thanks. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Why rm the image? People can change it if they want, otherwise ok. — Rlevse • Talk • 14:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Because the default image is being misused. For example: Ring deutscher Pfadfinderverbände is using the image by default; this implies that our generic logo is the official logo of that association. There are many instances where this is happening. It appears many editors don't realize this and don't suppress the image. The generic image should be used only on generic articles. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Having a generic might be better than being blank. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. Ok. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

But then it gets propagated downstream and folks think it is the official logo. I think it might be a bit POV to use a logo that is not used by the association, and its use becomes merely decorative. Another example: both Klondike derby and Totin' Chip were using the generic logo until I removed it.‎ --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Age Groups in Scouting and Guiding also uses it. Chris 21:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but it is not using the template. It is a universal article. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 21:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I thought we were also discussing where it is used purely decoratively. Chris 01:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

• Support for coordinates and image removal (agree with above) but no support for widening: how any text line breaks is totally up to the browser and browser settings, e.g., I typically use firefox with a large font, but sometimes I use MSIE with a small font. And sometime I use a different layout in my user preferences. These various displays of the same content are totally different from eachother. Introducting <br/> and fixed widening (or even more useless: narrowing) of tables and infobox only have countereffective results. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 23:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC).

I see your point—there is no way to prevent the line break based on box width. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 23:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• • Just a suggestion: perhaps not doing away with the image by default altogether, but a stronger text that the default images is NOT to be used on other than generic Scouting articles? Wim van Dorst (Talk) 23:29, 2 November 2007 (UTC).

The problem is that many editors will just copy and paste form another article, or copy from the documentation heading without reading deeper. To give another example: Scouting in Andorra. Look how long the template was in use before someone question how to supress the generic logo (see above). Luckily we have a good graphics editor now, so the current version of Scouting in Andorra has a proper logo. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 23:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Proposal: affiliation and defunct fields

Propose adding an optional affiliation field to indicate membership in a Scouting association such as WOSM or WAGGS. Affiliation would be used only in main articles for the Scouting organization, not section articles.

Propose adding an optional defunct field to indicate the date an organization, campsite, award or event was discontinued.

Both fields are illustrated in Template:Infobox WorldScouting/testcases. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 18:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

fine with me. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

support, that is a great idea. Chris (クリス) (talk) 21:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I also added and illustrated option fields for chiefscout2, chiefscouttitle2, chiefscout3 and chiefscouttitle3. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 21:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

These are simple extensions, so I am making them live. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 13:52, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

image-size

I ripped some code from another template and made a fix to the image-size parameter. If it is included, but the value is left blank, it will no longer display the image name instead of the image. Instead, it defaults to 140px.

--— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 16:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Update using meta-template

I have a sandbox version of the infobox that uses {{infobox}}; see Template:Infobox WorldScouting/sandbox for the new template and Template:Infobox WorldScouting/testcases for comparisons. Some discussion on this at WT:SCOUT.

• Uses the {{infobox}} meta-template, making it more standard and easier for novices to update
• Uses the default box width to match other standard infoboxes
• The title at the top now has the green background
• The data line is no longer shown
• The website is now centered at the bottom to allow for a longer URL
• The old coordinates method is superseded by use of the {{coords}} template, allowing more versatility of use

--—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Chiefscout

I started a page for the Central Region (Boy Scouts of America) and wanted to use the chiefscout part of the template for more people than it would allow. currently the venturing president and sea scout boatswain cannot be seen due to this. Would it be possible to add chiefscout4 and chiefscout5? Stnfll (talk) 17:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

(moved to a new discussion)

Not difficult to do. How about we identify what we need?

• Region President
• Region Director
• Region Commissioner

• Region Venturing President
• Region Venturing Chairman
• Region Venturing Staff Advisor

• Region Sea Scouting Commodore
• Region Sea Scouting Boatswain
• Region Sea Scouting Staff Advisor

• Region OA Chief
• Region OA Chairman
• Region OA Staff Adviser

Central Region has four websites, one for each division. It might be better to use a separate infobox for each. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Request

I would like to add "{{{chiefscouttitle4}}}" and "{{{chiefscout4}}}" to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_WorldScouting. This would allow for one more title to be correctly placed on the Scouts Canada page for the Executive Commissioner. I cannot add it myself due to {{editprotected}}. Munzo101 (talk) 19:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Done. Template and documentation updated. MacMed^talk_stalk 23:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Not sure I just tried to use the chiefscouttitle4 and chiefscout4 parameters on Three Harbors Council, but it didn't appear, so I just put the co-presidents on the same line. Has anyone had success with these parameters? Also (related), the infobox doc parameters says you can use "chiefscouttitle1" (presumably instead of "chiefscouttitle"), but it's not actually in the code, so I removed it from the doc. Johnson487682 (talk) 14:13, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

 Fixed Also updated the doc a bit. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 14:44, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Works great now! Johnson487682 (talk) 21:03, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

As User:Munzo101 has pointed out, at one point Scouts Canada required an additional "name tag." With recent changes by our National Council, a fifth is needed. Would it be possible for "{{{chiefscouttitle5}}}" and "{{{chiefscout5}}}" to be added? Munvo (talk) 21:13, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Totem

Hey, I posted this to WikiProject Scouting thinking it'd get seen quicker there because normally most infoboxes I've seen have little or no discussion on the talk page! I figure I should post it here since it does seem to get some use. What about adding a section for the organization's totem? I know most articles for OA lodges have it mentioned in the article so why not have it in the infobox? I also know at least the camp I went to had a different totem than the lodge so it is possible it could be used for camp articles too (the reason for the different totem was that the camp's original lodge was merged with a different lodge but the camp kept the totem of it's original lodge, I'm sure some other camps have done the same thing). So what do you guys think? Deflagro ^C/_T 02:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Images in Infobox

{{Infobox WorldScouting
|name=Scouting in California
|image2=
{{multiple image
 |image1    = GirlScoutsatNASA2.jpg
 |width1    = 95
 |alt1      = alt text
 |image2    = BadenPowellMemorial 8432.JPG
 |width2    = 95
 |alt2      = alt text}}
{{multiple image
 |image1    = Girl Scout Day Camp 2.jpg
 |width1    = 95
 |alt1      = alt text

 |image2    = Tournament of Roses Parade scouts.jpg
 |width2    = 95
 |alt2      = alt text}}
|caption2= 
Corriganville Regional Park, Scouts at the Tournament of Roses Parade
}}

Thanks Gadget! --evrik ^(talk) 20:49, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

The images aren't centering. --evrik ^(talk) 20:10, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 17 May 2016

I'd like to add "Camp Size" to the infobox for when it's used with summer camps to show acreage.

| label13 = Camp size

| data13 = {{{Camp size|{{{camp size|}}}}}}

Thanks! Deflagro ^Contribs/_Talk 15:37, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

 Not done Please make your proposed change in the sandbox and generate testcases to show that it works. ~ Rob^Talk 16:13, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

My bad! Updated sandbox and testcases. I did not see a sandbox documentation to update so I left that alone. Deflagro ^Contribs/_Talk 16:23, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

@Deflagro: Could you do a merge from the main template page and then make your change again? The version of the sandbox you edited was from August 2014, so if I copied it into the template, it would undo a few edits over the past two years. ~ Rob^Talk 16:36, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

@BU Rob13: Should be updated now. Deflagro ^Contribs/_Talk 16:41, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

 Done ~ Rob^Talk 17:26, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

merge template:Scouting uniform to template:Infobox WorldScouting

Per Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 September 7, uniform should be an automatic part of the WorldScouting template, like sports uniforms are for their teams. Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 06:00, 7 September 2016 (UTC) ‹The template Infobox WorldScouting is being considered for merging.› 

Edit request:uniform

Could some please add {{subst:tfm|Template:Scouting uniform|type=sidebar}} to this template as it has been nominated for merging. Pppery 11:21, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 16:08, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

@User:JJMC89, the merge proposal succeeded, can you help merge the Template:Scouting uniform? Also, please note there are attendant talkpages and sandboxes which need preserved in some form:

Template talk:Scouting uniform

Template:Scouting uniform/sandbox

Template:Scouting uniform/sandbox/test

Thank you so much!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:27, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Please make your requested changes to the template's sandbox; see WP:TESTCASES. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:15, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

@User:JJMC89, Kind of already did it at :Template:Scouting uniform/sandbox/test. I'm not a tech guy, so I don't know how to make it do what it should, except to brokenly copy the code others have set forth. Essentially, the parameters of Template:Scouting uniform so that Template talk:Infobox WorldScouting renders something akin to :Template:Scouting uniform/sandbox/test without the redlinks(redlinks seem to have self-rectified). Thanks and sorry I'm not more tech savvy.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 05:24, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

|alt = description... |pattern_head = |color_head = |pattern_body = |color_body = |pattern_legs = |color_legs = |title =

except the toggle "alt" already exists, so it should be changed to "altuniform" or something

@User:JJMC89, Tried it at Template:Infobox WorldScouting/testcases per your request, no idea how to merge the two...--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:14, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Is there a way to get two uniforms side-by-side boy and girl or different levels? Thanks again!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:30, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Edit request:age

Can someone please make the "age" toggle work like the birth/age toggle on the biography infobox, so that it updates daily? I see a lot of users putting in arbitrary numbers that quickly go stale. Thanks!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:47, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kintetsubuffalo, are you referring to |age= that accompanies "Age range"? It's unclear exactly what changes you are requesting. May you put your changes into Template:Infobox WorldScouting/sandbox and re-open the request here? Or, which other template are you referring to? — Andy W. (talk) 21:25, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kintetsubuffalo, thank you for catching this! In Template:Infobox person, there is text in the "| birth_date =" field, reading "<!-- {{birth date and age|YYYY|MM|DD}} for living people supply only the year with {{Birth year and age|YYYY}} unless the exact date is already widely published, as per [[WP:DOB]]. For people who have died, use {{Birth date|YYYY|MM|DD}}. -->". Not a coding guy, so I wouldn't know what I am doing at the sandbox. What I am asking is, put something like the YYYY|MM|DD requirement, with the internal text like "<!-- {{foundation date and age|YYYY|MM|DD}} for existing organizations/camps supply only the year with {{foundation year and age|YYYY}} unless the exact date is known. For defunct organizations/camps, use {{foundation date|YYYY|MM|DD}}. -->" Is that making sense?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:43, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Kintetsubuffalo Several things, I did not get a ping when you replied to yourself above, but I happened to see this :) Anyway, the page you want to edit (that is not protected) is at Template:Infobox WorldScouting/doc, which is transcluded into the main template. Considering how the page Boy Scouts of America uses |age=, adding such a comment there does not seem appropriate. I've added it to the |f-date= and |defunct= params with Special:Diff/746394371. The template appropriate for these fields is {{Start date and age}}. Notice how Boy Scouts of America has {{start date and age|1910|02|08}} for |f-date=. This did not require a template change, just a documentation change. If you ever see anything in template documentation that needs changes, look for a "/doc" subpage. Hope this helps! — Andy W. (talk) 04:22, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Andy M. Wang thanks for catching this, and @:^} Charlie Brown sheepish grin for pinging myself... I will be tagging the below request shortly.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 05:03, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Andy M. Wang yeah, the page Boy Scouts of America, that is exactly what I am trying to do so that inexperienced users don't/can't force in a static age that will not update.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 05:05, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Edit request:new hats and skintones at commons:Category:Scouting uniform templates

Now that we have new hats and skintones at commons:Category:Scouting uniform templates, can toggles like "skintone medium", "skintone dark", "overseas hat", "bush hat" and "bucket hat" be incorporated for use into the uniform section of the template? Thank you--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:52, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

This looks like a request to update Template:Infobox WorldScouting/uniform, which is not protected. You are probably able to make the changes yourself. Please ping or re-open the request if there are issues. — Andy W. (talk) 18:07, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Hosts of world jamborees

Was considering listing the host organisations in the infobox under governance, so, for example, the 24th would have
"|governance=BSA, Scouts Canada, ASMAC".
Thoughts? Bogger (talk) 10:27, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Good idea. Support--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:41, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Last change

Request that the last edit be undone. There was no discussion about changing the established colors. A request for information has gone unanswered. --Eagleinflight (talk) 23:50, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

 Done - FlightTime (open channel) 23:55, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks --Eagleinflight (talk) 00:04, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

First image size

Worth changing this? Most articles with this infobox seem to use the first image as a regular photo, where the sizedefault=140px isn't ideal and sometimes gets overridden in the article. Further up this talk page there's a mention of someone having "ripped some code from another template" and taken the 140px, back in 2008, but is it better than the default infobox size, for these articles? Lord Belbury (talk) 18:18, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

• I am not sure if it matters either way. Change it if you want. --evrik ^(talk) 22:58, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 20 August 2022

Per above talk page section, remove |sizedefault=140px both times it appears, so that the infobox uses default image sizes rather than overriding to a smaller setting. Lord Belbury (talk) 10:53, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 12:48, 20 August 2022 (UTC)