Template talk:Israeli political parties
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Adding non-represented parties?
editI was wondering on consensus whether we should open up this template to include parties that have not reached the threshold but have become notable on their own. Most of these non-viable parties have their own articles that can be found on List of political parties in Israel. My ideas are: leave it as is, add the rest of the parties interspersed, or create two sections based on whether or not they are currently in the knesset. Or perhaps we should change the template's name to "Current Israeli political parties" or "Israeli political parties currently represented in Knesset". I would rather get a sense of consensus here rather than radically changing the template. Valley2city‽ 17:50, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think it is fine as it is. There are far too many small parties, and for us to decide which ones are notable would not really be in line with NPOV. There are too many questions - are Tzomet still noteworthy for instance? Number 57 18:38, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
2015 updates
edit@Number 57: Thanks for your help in updating this template. I am leaning towards removing "Islamic Movement" here. There appears to be a lot of confusion, in the media included, about this, probably due to the fact that the United Arab List and Ta'al had traditionally run together as one party. I am pretty sure that the United Arab List is simply the political arm of the Islamic Movement (and that mentioning the Islamic Movement is simply to distinguish it from the sister Ta'al faction). See this. In any case, the alliance is consistently referred to as an alliance of four parties. Thoughts? --Precision123 (talk) 20:44, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- As far as I am aware, the Islamic Movement is a faction within the UAL. Happy to be proved wrong though. Also, articles like this do indeed state four parties, and then list them as "Balad, Ra’am-Ta’al, Hadash and the Islamic Movement", seemingly thinking UAL and Ta'al are one party and the IM is separate! Number 57 20:50, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the sources! I had to look into it, and I think we are both right. From what I can tell, I am not sure the Islamic Movement (IM) ever formed a political party; the UAL is a party formed by various organizations ([1][2][3][4]), and is now run by only one of them (IM).
- I guess I'm not too opposed to including it but there has been confusion. UAL and Ta'al have canceled their alliance ("Tibi currently heads the secular Ta’al faction and is the only member of Knesset from its ranks. The members of Ra’am are all affiliated with the northern and southern branches of the Islamic Movement in Israel."[5]). In this Al-Jazeera report and this scholarly source, IM and UAL are equivalent. With Ta'al separated, it appears all UAL candidates are IM and vice-versa. [6][7] --Precision123 (talk) 19:11, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- I am beginning to wonder whether the UAL still actually exists. From what I understand, it was effectively a vehicle of Sarsur and the southern branch of the Islamic Movement, allied with the Arab Democratic Party. The ADP left in 2012, and now Sarsur has retired and the parties are all allied into one joint list, is the UAL still a thing? It would be interesting to see the CEC's official list of registered parties to see what's on there (it would also be good to see which minor parties are still around, as it's not clear whether the likes of Meimad or Shinui still exist). Is the list online anywhere? Number 57 19:43, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- I was wondering the same thing, whether there was a list online somewhere. It would be cool if the official deal between the Joint List constituent parties were available online. (The Library of Congress site generally has links to official documents, but in this case it was just a Reuters article.) As to your other question, I think Meimad does exist but has chosen not to run. --Precision123 (talk) 18:32, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- I am beginning to wonder whether the UAL still actually exists. From what I understand, it was effectively a vehicle of Sarsur and the southern branch of the Islamic Movement, allied with the Arab Democratic Party. The ADP left in 2012, and now Sarsur has retired and the parties are all allied into one joint list, is the UAL still a thing? It would be interesting to see the CEC's official list of registered parties to see what's on there (it would also be good to see which minor parties are still around, as it's not clear whether the likes of Meimad or Shinui still exist). Is the list online anywhere? Number 57 19:43, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Moving to representive Parties in Knesset
editHello, I think for the future this template should be move to Template:Parties of actuell Knesset because only twenty of more than 200 parties are listed at here. A complete list of parties aren't usability for the users. With best regards and a happy new year --Markus S. (talk) 21:35, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- Many political party templates only list current parties. Moving it would not be a good idea (unless your comment is just meant to be WP:POINTy?). Number 57 21:40, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- Oh noooooo. I'm looking for israelian parties for writing no-existent article in german-spoken Wikipedia :) And in the english-spoken wikipedia I take minor edits because my english is to bad for writing an article. We have talk about your Template:MKlink and the expanding for the other database of the Knesset in german-spoken Wikipedia for longer time ago. --Markus S. (talk) 22:24, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- You might be best off looking in Category:Defunct political parties in Israel? Number 57 22:25, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- I know that you have wright a many of articles to israelian parties and politicans. And this isn't/wasn't an easy job. My intention for this request is that only 20 parties at this template listed. I doesn't want to criticises your work. --Markus S. (talk) 22:34, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- No, I understand that. I just don't understand what you want. Number 57 14:51, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
- I know that you have wright a many of articles to israelian parties and politicans. And this isn't/wasn't an easy job. My intention for this request is that only 20 parties at this template listed. I doesn't want to criticises your work. --Markus S. (talk) 22:34, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- You might be best off looking in Category:Defunct political parties in Israel? Number 57 22:25, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- Oh noooooo. I'm looking for israelian parties for writing no-existent article in german-spoken Wikipedia :) And in the english-spoken wikipedia I take minor edits because my english is to bad for writing an article. We have talk about your Template:MKlink and the expanding for the other database of the Knesset in german-spoken Wikipedia for longer time ago. --Markus S. (talk) 22:24, 1 January 2016 (UTC)