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NYC
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Hi, could someone add the symbol File:New York Central Herald.png to the New York Central line please? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 17:04, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- Something like this below. Cards84664 (talk) 17:55, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
|NYC=[[File:New York Central Herald.png|70px|link=New York Central Railroad]]
- It looks pretty different from the Amtrak or Metro-North ones... Can we try this? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 23:14, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
|NYC=[[File:New York Central Herald.png|16px|link=New York Central Railroad]] [[New York Central Railroad]]
- @Ɱ: How are you even supposed to read it at that size? Cards84664 (talk) 23:33, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- The MTA one and probably many others aren't necessarily, but the logo as a symbol helps even when unreadable until you click. Yet you could change it to 40 or 50px. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 00:29, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- It would probably be better if it was converted to svg. Cards84664 (talk) 01:05, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- The MTA one and probably many others aren't necessarily, but the logo as a symbol helps even when unreadable until you click. Yet you could change it to 40 or 50px. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 00:29, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Ɱ: How are you even supposed to read it at that size? Cards84664 (talk) 23:33, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Here you go: File:New York Central Herald.svg. I think the red is more typical of NYC anyway; it's evident on photos of the fronts of NYC locomotives, though I can't find any ref for which logos were used when. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 13:40, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- You can use this to figure out the logos. Cards84664 (talk) 16:42, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Wow thanks! That's basically impossible to find on Google when searching for NYC seals, symbols, logos, heralds... I will update the SVG sometime soon, using images there. Do you think red is appropriate or should I change back to black? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 16:55, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- You could keep four versions, 1910s black (displaying "lines" instead of "system", 1930s black, 1930s red, and 1960s white/black. Then we could see which works the best, or we could use more than one, depending on when stations closed. Cards84664 (talk) 17:25, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- That'd be ideal, and I guess I'll add that to my to-do list. But for now, can we add the red one to this template in one format or another? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 17:39, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sure, if you can figure out how to remove those residual squiggles from the image. Cards84664 (talk) 18:03, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- That'd be ideal, and I guess I'll add that to my to-do list. But for now, can we add the red one to this template in one format or another? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 17:39, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- You could keep four versions, 1910s black (displaying "lines" instead of "system", 1930s black, 1930s red, and 1960s white/black. Then we could see which works the best, or we could use more than one, depending on when stations closed. Cards84664 (talk) 17:25, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Wow thanks! That's basically impossible to find on Google when searching for NYC seals, symbols, logos, heralds... I will update the SVG sometime soon, using images there. Do you think red is appropriate or should I change back to black? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 16:55, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- You can use this to figure out the logos. Cards84664 (talk) 16:42, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Here you go: File:New York Central Herald.svg. I think the red is more typical of NYC anyway; it's evident on photos of the fronts of NYC locomotives, though I can't find any ref for which logos were used when. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 13:40, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
(←) Which squiggles from which image? Keep in mind 95% of readers aren't gonna zoom up on a logo, and I haven't mastered svgs enough to make them 100% spotless. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 18:25, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Revert
I'd like to request a revert of this change. The logo is inferior to the text for basically every purpose - it takes up more space, is harder to read, and uses an image to display text, which is strongly discouraged. S-rail is for displaying information quickly and cleanly, not shoehorning in logos. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:04, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- That's why I wanted to use the logo and the text, which is seemingly the standard for all railroads that have logos... ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 19:23, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- That works for modern agencies like Amtrak and the MBTA that have geometric logos recognizable under 20 pixels in height (i.e, inline with text). Older drumhead logos like the NYC that need to be displayed at larger sixes fundamentally don't work for s-rail. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:28, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia doesn't work on recentism, sorry. As well, the MTA has just as little readability as NYC, and nobody outside of the NY Metropolitan Area would recognize it. And I'd argue that every railfan (the only readers who'd care about template:s-rail) would recognize the enormous New York Central's logo just as easily as MTA. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 20:01, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- It's not about recentism; it's about readability for all readers. At 20-pixel height, the MBTA logo is obvious , the NYC logo is utterly useless , and the MTA logo is imperfect but readable . If you want the NYC logo at that height along with text, fine - it's not disruptive like it is now. Images in s-rail are decoration; they must accompany text rather than replace it, and they must not significantly increase the height of the template. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:02, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- If the images must accompany text, Why hasn't this happened with the DART Light Rail system? Cards84664 (talk) 13:09, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Pi - You were discriminating against historical transit agencies right there, while Wikipedia specifically aims to be equal in considering historical and current topics. And that MTA logo actually has less readability at that scale than the NYC logo has at around the 50-70px we've been using... You're biased because you're familiar with the logo; most readers will not be able to read the MTA logo at that scale. Also, yes, your ~"must accompany text"~ thing is silly and unfounded in policies, guidelines, or precedent. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 13:36, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
It's not about recentism; it's about readability for all readers.
Please read that again. At a height that doesn't add unnecessary bulk to the infobox (and that 70-pixel wide image absolutely does), the NYC logo, most historical logos, and many modern logos are not readable. Using images as links is absolutely terrible for accessibility, and I literally linked a guideline to that effect above. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:55, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Pi - You were discriminating against historical transit agencies right there, while Wikipedia specifically aims to be equal in considering historical and current topics. And that MTA logo actually has less readability at that scale than the NYC logo has at around the 50-70px we've been using... You're biased because you're familiar with the logo; most readers will not be able to read the MTA logo at that scale. Also, yes, your ~"must accompany text"~ thing is silly and unfounded in policies, guidelines, or precedent. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 13:36, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- If the images must accompany text, Why hasn't this happened with the DART Light Rail system? Cards84664 (talk) 13:09, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- It's not about recentism; it's about readability for all readers. At 20-pixel height, the MBTA logo is obvious , the NYC logo is utterly useless , and the MTA logo is imperfect but readable . If you want the NYC logo at that height along with text, fine - it's not disruptive like it is now. Images in s-rail are decoration; they must accompany text rather than replace it, and they must not significantly increase the height of the template. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:02, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia doesn't work on recentism, sorry. As well, the MTA has just as little readability as NYC, and nobody outside of the NY Metropolitan Area would recognize it. And I'd argue that every railfan (the only readers who'd care about template:s-rail) would recognize the enormous New York Central's logo just as easily as MTA. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 20:01, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- That works for modern agencies like Amtrak and the MBTA that have geometric logos recognizable under 20 pixels in height (i.e, inline with text). Older drumhead logos like the NYC that need to be displayed at larger sixes fundamentally don't work for s-rail. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:28, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Reverted per WP:BRD. You may need to invite some others to comment to gauge consensus for this — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:17, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- You don't understand, the NYC logo would actually make the s-rail display smaller than the text would: look at Grand Central Terminal. Because the name "New York Central" is so long, it takes up three lines, while even a 70 or 80px image would be smaller and yet as readable and more informative. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 22:35, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
The accessibility issue is non-negotiable; arguments to the contrary are unfounded. Mackensen (talk) 23:20, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- You're ridiculous. Don't discount text from an svg vs. text from html just by vaguely stating it's ~~nonnegotiable~~. Ridiculous. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 23:22, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- There's nothing vague about calling it non-negotiable. Logos shouldn't be used in place of text for s-rail columns, especially if it's being done because of concerns over box width within infobox station. That's easily resolved just by using {{s-rail-next}} in place of {{s-rail}}, without compromising the accessibility of the article. Mackensen (talk) 23:26, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- I haven't used s-rail-next, how would it display or what do you propose? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 23:30, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- It suppresses the display of the "preceding" and "next station" columns so that the title spans the entire width of the box. It's in use on Grand Central Terminal already. Mackensen (talk) 23:43, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, cool, maybe that would buy me some room to do what I was originally proposing/hoping for - the text "New York Central Railroad" spanning two lines, with the logo, about 40-60px, to the left of both lines of text. That would still require a change to this template. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 23:50, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- It suppresses the display of the "preceding" and "next station" columns so that the title spans the entire width of the box. It's in use on Grand Central Terminal already. Mackensen (talk) 23:43, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- I haven't used s-rail-next, how would it display or what do you propose? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 23:30, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- There's nothing vague about calling it non-negotiable. Logos shouldn't be used in place of text for s-rail columns, especially if it's being done because of concerns over box width within infobox station. That's easily resolved just by using {{s-rail-next}} in place of {{s-rail}}, without compromising the accessibility of the article. Mackensen (talk) 23:26, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
RfC note
Transit system icons being used in this way were the subject of a previously RfC, at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons#Transit system icons in nav templates, with a result of no consensus. A second thread on the same page was opened about it shortly thereafter, and also lead to no conclusion. I would suggest opening a new RfC about this at WP:VPPOL where it will get more input, rather than continuing to re-discuss it on talk pages few people pay any attention to. If it comes to a consensus conclusion, integrate it into MOS:ICONS. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:31, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 2 July 2018
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Please replace with as the image for |caltrain=
with this diff, for consistency with {{rail-interchange}} as discussed in this request. Thank you! Minh Nguyễn 💬 20:39, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done no opposition — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:40, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: Thanks for taking a look. Unfortunately, there appears to be a stray vertical pipe in this edit. – Minh Nguyễn 💬 00:27, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed, sorry about that! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 06:47, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: Thanks for taking a look. Unfortunately, there appears to be a stray vertical pipe in this edit. – Minh Nguyễn 💬 00:27, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 2 July 2018
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At:
|DART=[[File:Dallas Area Rapid Transit logo.svg|25px]]
Replace:
[[File:Dallas Area Rapid Transit logo.svg|32px|link=Dallas Area Rapid Transit|alt=DART]]
with
[[File:Dallas Area Rapid Transit logo.svg|25px]] [[Dallas Area Rapid Transit]]
for consistency, per reasoning provided by Mackensen above. Cards84664 (talk) 23:39, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
RTM
The description of Deux-Montagnes line is displayed as Deux-Montages (the n is missing).
Can it be fixed? If so, is there way that I can fix it myself?
Here is an example page of where it is incorrect:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sainte-Dorothée_station
This will also need to be for REM line template as well when it is created. JoelRabinovitch (talk) 18:42, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done @JoelRabinovitch: The problem was in {{RTM lines}} and I've fixed it. Mackensen (talk) 19:10, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks! It's working and I see how you fixed it.JoelRabinovitch (talk) 20:28, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 24 July 2018
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Please change:
|PE=[[Pacific Electric Railway|Pacific Electric]]
to:
|PE={{PE link logo|showtext=yes}}
Rationale: Incorporate logo functionality Lexlex (talk) 08:55, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done, and I adjusted the size in that template down a bit so it would be more in line with the other icons (if you don't mind). Enterprisey (talk!) 04:42, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 24 July 2018: Change RTM for EXO
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Hello, The RTM/Reseau de Transport Metropolitain in Montreal was rebranded as EXO in May 2018. Please add/update the template to reflect EXO instead of RTM. As last time the name changed, "RTM" could still be left as an alias to EXO for all pages not yet updated to the new brand name. Piper13 (talk) 13:48, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done Looks good to me. There are now three synonyms: Exo, RTM, and AMT. Enterprisey (talk!) 12:23, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
REM railbox
The Réseau express métropolitain is a 67-kilometre, 26 station rapid transit project currently U/C in Montreal. Groundbreaking for the project was held last April[1].
I believe the REM Wiki page is in need of a rail box. I would do one myself but don't know how. I was told a few months ago that it would not be done due to the project being so up in the air, but similar projects like the Purple Line (Maryland) and the Purple Line Extension have their own rail box despite being U/C and planned to be completed after the first phase of the REM is complete in 2021.
I have personally created pages for every REM station last year so it should be relatively easy to implement. Can anyone help? Mtlfiredude (talk) 22:23, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Mtlfiredude: Can you link me to an official map of the project? Cards84664 (talk) 05:40, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: You can find one at this adress: http://www.cima.ca/en/project/reseau-electrique-metropolitain-rem/ Mtlfiredude (talk) 02:15, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: Very well done, thank you for this. Mtlfiredude (talk) 15:06, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: I tried fixing it, but the Pointe-Claire station page on the railbox is not the correct one. The page in question is a page for the commuter rail station located a few kilometers south near the A-20, while the REM station will be up north near the A-40. Is it possible for you to correct this? Mtlfiredude (talk) 13:06, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 5 September 2018
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Please add a new parameter, I have created new templates for the Union Pacific Railroad.
| UP = [[Union Pacific Railroad]]
Template-protected edit request on 9 September 2018
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The current logo used to represent the National Railway Company of Belgium (line NMBS=
) is a GIF (File:Sncb nmbs.gif) which involve poor quality when downsized such as in this case. Would you mind changing it for its SVG version (File:SNCB logo.svg) ? As the dimensions are identical, no size adjustment should be required.
Regards, Vascer (talk) 08:19, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 11 September 2018
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Hi there! Could you please add a logo for the KTM Intercity ( )? This is the latest logo KTM has updated for the Intercity services. So the display cell for it should just be "nothing" and it would be replaced with the logo when the template is used. Thanks! Draco97 (talk) 21:03, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
References
- That's far too wide a logo to be remotely readable when used in an infobox. Better to just have readable text than an unreadable logo. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:57, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 12 September 2018
Toronto Transit Commission
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Replace |TTC=[[Toronto Transit Commission|TTC]]
with |TTC=[[File:Logo of the Toronto Transit Commission.svg|29px|link=Toronto Transit Commission]] [[Toronto Transit Commission|TTC]]
(reason: The TTC has a logo and like other agencies in the templates have their logo, The image looks like )
- It's too wide a logo (as noted above), and because of its complexity is not very clear at small sizes. Useddenim (talk) 10:58, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
GO Transit
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Replace |GO Transit=[[File:GO Transit logo.svg|18px|link=GO Transit]] [[GO Transit]]
with |GO Transit|GO=[[File:GO Transit logo.svg|18px|link=GO Transit]] [[GO Transit]]
(reason: Go Transit is commonly just called GO and to avoid repetitive editing and to make it easier to use the template, add GO as a thing in the template.) – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 02:54, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Done, but using GOT reporting marks, as there are other systems that also use "GO" (e.g. Go KL City Bus). Useddenim (talk) 12:18, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 22 September 2018
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Add
|AarhusLetbane=[[Aarhus Letbane]]
Reason: The Aarhus Letbane is a new light rail system, partly newly built, partly converted from railways. These railways have been presented using {{S-line|system=DSB|line=AarhNærb which was not really correct after 2012, since DSB was not the operator anymore. Now it's even less correct since it's a tramway/light rail, not railway but a fully special system. BIL (talk) 16:50, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 15 November 2018
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Please add for Metro Transit (Minnesota) Cubbie15fan (talk) 21:22, 15 November 2018 (UTC) Cubbie15fan (talk) 21:22, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Done But, Cubbie15fan, I've instead added File:Metro Transit logo.svg. I'm not sure about snipping out the icons from a logo and using it. Also, many entries use their full logo(s) and does not appear to have a downside. ∯WBGconverse 09:46, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Winged Blades of Godric: The icon will suffice. Two titles is just redundant, image or not. Cards84664 (talk) 14:55, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Cards84664, OK:-) As you se. Changing soon.∯WBGconverse 15:02, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Winged Blades of Godric: The icon will suffice. Two titles is just redundant, image or not. Cards84664 (talk) 14:55, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 15 November 2018
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Replace |GSR=[[Great Southern Rail (Australia)|<span style="color:white;">Great Southern Rail</span>]]
with |GSR=[[Great Southern Rail (Australia)|Great Southern Rail]]
, obvious MOS:COLOR issues. Cards84664 (talk) 15:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Question: I guess it depends on what the background color is. If it's a dark color, then this potentially makes it harder to see not easier. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:40, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Cards84664: Please provide links to examples of pages where this coloring is being used. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:52, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done Never mind, I found Adelaide Parklands Terminal and a bunch more that were white on gray. Next time, please provide links so that people who don't know the subject area don't have to do detective work in order to help you. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:57, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 12 January 2019
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SHMetro VulpesVulpes825 (talk) 10:25, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:52, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, I thought I already put the request when I requested for the template-protected edit and it is not showing in the talk.
- Please change
|SHMetro|SHM=Shanghai Metro
- to
|SHMetro|SHM= Shanghai Metro
- So that the icon for shanghai metro can now be displayed.
- I was also undecided wether to use
|SHMetro|SHM=
- instead since this logo's Chinese word is bigger than the English one and it is been used on the Chinese version. I will leave the decision to the administrator.
- - VulpesVulpes825 (talk) 20:05, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Already done Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 21:54, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 22 March 2019
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Please remove the lines <noinclude>{{pp-template|small=yes}}</noinclude>
and [[Category:Rail transport succession templates]]
- protection templates are automatically handled by the documentation page, and I have added the category to the documentation page. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 06:48, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:59, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Edit Request: DCTA
Please add to DCTA's A-train. Lubbockite (talk) 04:54, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Sydney transport icons
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I'd like to request that icons for Sydney's transport systems be implemented into {{S-rail/lines}} in the following way, with the icons sized at x15px
. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 03:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Links to | Displayed text | Icon | |
---|---|---|---|
NSW TrainLink | NSW TrainLink | ||
Sydney Ferries | Sydney Ferries | ||
Sydney Metro | Sydney Metro | ||
Sydney Trains | Sydney Trains |
- Not done for now: could you please make the required changes to Template:S-rail/lines/sandbox? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:27, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: Not sure why I had to, but I went ahead and did as you asked. Hopefully there's no more unnecessary hoops to jump through? – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 22:29, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- It's important to sandbox and test edits before deploying to make sure they are working correctly. Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:01, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: Mistakes we’re made on my part! I apologise. Although again, maybe it’s a good idea to actually make mention of the sandbox hoop in the documentation. It’s also not a good look when I made my intentions clear as day with my original post, and others on this talk page that were less clear didn’t have to go through the sandbox hoop to have their requests accepted. Emphasising here that I’m simply saying it’s not a good look. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 16:35, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- It's important to sandbox and test edits before deploying to make sure they are working correctly. Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:01, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: Not sure why I had to, but I went ahead and did as you asked. Hopefully there's no more unnecessary hoops to jump through? – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 22:29, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Sydney transport icons (again)
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I'd like these changes, referenced from the sandbox, to be made to this template. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 23:21, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Done thanks for using the sandbox - much appreciated! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:31, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: Can this last edit to Sydney's three systems be reverted? The forced nowrap affects the widths of every infobox listing Sydney services. Chatswood railway station is one of the many examples of this. Cards84664 (talk) 22:22, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Done. Please discuss with PhilipTerryGraham — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:03, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: Any way we could get the system names and icons to appear in the single line? I’m thinking the system name is being squished by the two coloured columns that flank the line names, even though they do not appear in the row for the system names. Is there we can get the system name to span three columns, so that the coloured columns don’t get in the way? – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 15:00, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Mackensen: Is there a way to fit the systems listed here to fit on one line without affecting the infobox width? I tried with a few different approaches on the sandbox, none of them worked.
- @MSGJ: What is currently in the sandbox needs to be applied regardless, the wrong icons are used on the main template now. Cards84664 (talk) 16:24, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- I've fixed the icons. I'm not sure adding <br/> is the answer - this needs further discussion. Also there is another unrelated change in the sandbox which has not been discussed yet. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:18, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: Any way we could get the system names and icons to appear in the single line? I’m thinking the system name is being squished by the two coloured columns that flank the line names, even though they do not appear in the row for the system names. Is there we can get the system name to span three columns, so that the coloured columns don’t get in the way? – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 15:00, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Done. Please discuss with PhilipTerryGraham — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:03, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: Can this last edit to Sydney's three systems be reverted? The forced nowrap affects the widths of every infobox listing Sydney services. Chatswood railway station is one of the many examples of this. Cards84664 (talk) 22:22, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Single line for system name without Nowrap
How do we get system names to appear on a single line without affecting the width of the table itself? This is an attempt at restarting a discussion I had with Cards84664 and MSGJ; would appreciate help from somebody who may be able to help. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 14:43, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- The answer may be that it is not possible, nor should we try. We do not know what various browsers people are using on their various devices, and so should avoid making assumptions about what looks best based on what it looks like on our own screens. If the icons are causing problems, then the easiest answer is to remove the icons. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:47, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 27 August 2019
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- Add Przewozy Regionalne to the list with subsequent parametres:
- Shortcut: PR and POLREGIO;
- Logo: Polregio logo.svg;
- Add PKP Intercity to the list with subsequent parametres:
- Shortcut: PKPIC
- Logo: Logo pkp ic.svg
Thank you. Kuki5050 (talk) 14:39, 27 August 2019 (UTC) Kuki5050 (talk) 14:39, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: please make your requested changes to the template's sandbox first; see WP:TESTCASES. Primefac (talk) 01:06, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 23 December 2019
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- Add Baixada Santista Light Rail to the list with the subsequent parametres:
- Shortcut: BSLR
- Logo: EMTU - Symbol logo.png
- Edit São Paulo Metro to add the subsequent parametres:
- Logo: Metrô-SP logo.svg
- Add ViaQuatro to the list with subsequent parametres:
- Shortcut: VQ
- Logo: ViaQuatro SP.jpg
- Add ViaMobilidade to the list with subsequent parametres:
- Shortcut: VM
- Logo: ViaMobilidade SP.png
- Edit Companhia Paulista de Trens Metropolitanos to add the subsequent parametres:
- Logo: CPTM (Logo).svg Jvalienforce (talk) 03:32, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: please make your requested changes to the template's sandbox first; see WP:TESTCASES. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:14, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 8 January 2020
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I'd like this change, already implemented in the sandbox, to be made to the template:
- add Caracas Metro to the list with the subsequent parametres:
- Name/ Link / Displayed text: Caracas Metro,
- Logo: Metro de Caracas (Venezuela) logo.svg (with icon size x15px).
Please, update the template documentation too, adding this row:
Links to | Displayed text | Icon | |
---|---|---|---|
Caracas Metro | Caracas Metro |
Regards, Yak79 2.0 (talk) 18:26, 8 January 2020 (UTC) Yak79 2.0 (talk) 18:26, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:44, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 18 February 2020
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I'd like this change, already implemented in the sandbox and the documentation, to be made to the template:
- Update the parameters for TWM (Tyne and Wear Metro) to add a logo.
- The change is from:
TWM=[[Tyne and Wear Metro]]
to:
TWM=[[File:TWMetro logo no text.PNG|15px|link=Tyne and Wear Metro]] [[Tyne and Wear Metro]]
Thank you. DrFrench (talk) 12:39, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:55, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 27 January 2020
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- Add Baixada Santista Light Rail to the list with the subsequent parametres:
- Shortcut: BSLR
- Logo: EMTU - Symbol logo.png
- Edit São Paulo Metro to add the subsequent parametres:
- Logo: Metrô-SP logo.svg
- Add ViaQuatro to the list with subsequent parametres:
- Shortcut: VQUA
- Logo: ViaQuatro SP.jpg
- Add ViaMobilidade to the list with subsequent parametres:
- Shortcut: VMOB
- Logo: ViaMobilidade SP.png
- Edit Companhia Paulista de Trens Metropolitanos to add the subsequent parametres:
- Logo: CPTM (Logo).svg
- Add VLT Carioca (linked to Rio de Janeiro Light Rail) to the list with the subsequent parametres:
- Shortcut: Rio LRT
- Logo: Vlt carioca logo.svg
- Add Metrô Rio (linked to Rio de Janeiro Metro) to the list with the subsequent parametres:
- Shortcut: Metrô Rio
- Logo: Logo MetroRio.svg
Note: Changes were already done in the sandbox page. Jvalienforce (talk) 01:45, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: no relevant updates can be seen in Template:S-rail/lines/sandbox — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:57, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 17 March 2020
I'd like this change, already implemented in the sandbox and the documentation, to be made to the template:
add Daejeon Metro, Daegu Metro and Gwangju Metro to the list with the subsequent parameters:
DJET = [[Daejeon Metro]]
GRTC = [[Gwangju Metro]]
DMT or DTRO = [[Daegu Metro]]
Template usage
@Mackensen: and @Ythlev:, do either of you think that we should start directing user requests to Template:Adjacent stations instead? Cards84664 01:07, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Requested change July 2020 for TransLink
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Instead of TransLink (South East Queensland) it should now link to TransLink (Queensland) as the result of a rename.Fleet Lists (talk) 09:22, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Fleet Lists: I'd recommend a conversion to Template:Adjacent stations via Module:Adjacent stations/TransLink (Queensland), as to make changes to individual systems easier in the long run. If you'd need help setting up the module, please let me know. Cards84664 00:43, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: I am not the primary maintainer of Queensland information and hence will not be taking things that as far as Queensland is concerned - I am just cleaning up some things which were left behind after a recent rename. However for New South Wales with over 400 stations I do have the move to Template:Adjacent stations diarised for later this year after I have completed another exercise. I will keep your offer of assistance in mind when I get around to that.Fleet Lists (talk) 03:56, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- To editors Fleet Lists and Cards84664: done. P.I. Ellsworth ed. put'r there 16:10, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 14 August 2020
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Hi, can I please request the LRBoat parameter to be changed from
|LRBoat=[[London River Services]]
to
|LRBoat={{rint|london|river}} [[File:LRS roundel.svg|12px|alt=LRS|link=London River Services]] [[London River Services]]
or, if the use of the {{rint}} template is not permitted, then as an alternative:
|LRBoat=[[File:BSicon_FERRY.svg|15px|alt=LRS|link=London River Services]] [[File:LRS roundel.svg|16px|alt=LRS|link=London River Services]] [[London River Services]]
Many thanks Cnbrb (talk) 10:26, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- To editor Cnbrb: done, with the rint redirect bypassed per WP:BRINT. P.I. Ellsworth ed. put'r there 16:27, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Super quick response, thank you! Cnbrb (talk) 17:00, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
OASA Rail
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The link should be changed from Proastiakos#Athens to Proastiakos, since the template is also used for the Thessaloniki and Patras lines and there is no such subsection in the article anyway. The name of the line itself should also be changed to Proastiakos for the sake of accuracy, since the lines in all three cities are operated by TrainOSE rather than OASA. •ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ• 08:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Are they not separate lines? Proastiakos Thessaloniki and Proastiakos Athens, that is? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:26, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes. They are completely separate, despite sharing a brand name and logo. That is why the current link is inappropriate; a simple link to Proastiakos would cover the suburban rail networks of all three cities. It is also why "OASA Rail" is a misnomer; OASA is responsible for public transport in Athens exclusively. •ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ• 19:59, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Partly done: I've removed the slink, but left the icon because it is still in use (based on everything I can find). The only place "OASA" appears is in the template name, so really it's a bit of moot point anyway. Primefac (talk) 21:08, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 25 December 2020
I made an inquiry at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Amsteltram s-line about s-rail/s-line modifications for a light-rail line. Could you please comment on my village pump inquiry? It seems that Template:S-rail and Template:S-line do not describe the basic setup required before modifying s-rail and s-line statements within an infobox. Is this page ("Template talk:S-rail/lines") related to my inquiry? Thanks. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 16:43, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Koleje Wielkopolskie
Please change the logo to Koleje Wielkopolskie.svg Andrei (talk) 08:20, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 7 February 2022
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|MAXX (Veolia)=[[Auckland Transport]] ([[Transdev Auckland|Transdev]])
→
|MAXX (Veolia)=[[Auckland Transport]] ([[Auckland One Rail]])
due to recent change of rail operator. Thanks, Fork99 (talk) 06:23, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Question
MIDM is defined as "West Midlands Metro" (the new name for Midland Metro). Why does it still show up on Wikipedia pages as "Midland Metro" - eg, here: Library tram stop? Kennethmac2000 (talk) 14:58, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see that any such change was made to this template. Mackensen (talk) 15:47, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 12 December 2022
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|OASA Rail={{ric|Proastiakos Athens|size=24}} [[Proastiakos|Proastiakos]]
-->
|OASA Rail={{ric|Athens Suburban Railway|size=24}} [[Proastiakos|Proastiakos]]
as the module subpage was renamed. REEDriler (talk) 12:52, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 19 April 2023
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Hi there, could someone please add this to the template?
|WMM=[[File:MidlandMetroGenericSymbol.svg|15px|link=West Midlands Metro]] [[West Midlands Metro]] |WMR=[[File:West Midlands Railway generic symbol.svg|15px|link=West Midlands Railway]] [[West Midlands Railway]]
Oldhamtw (talk) 15:55, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 19:54, 19 April 2023 (UTC)