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So, naturalists observe, a flea
Hath smaller fleas that on him prey;
And these have smaller still to bit 'em;
And so proceed *ad infinitum*.
Thus every poet, in his kind,
Is bit by him that comes behind.
Jonathan Swift, *On Poetry: A Rhapsody* (1733)

Thank you

I've seen how much you hate paid editors, and continuously making an effort to stop them, I really grateful to have you here on English Wikipedia :D .--AldNon^Ucallin?☎ 15:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

@Aldnonymous: Thanks for noticing! It's always good to get positive feedback. I will correct you, however, I don't hate paid editors, rather it is paid editing that is hateful. It is tearing down a wonderful structure that has been built up by many volunteers, that provides good information to whoever has access to the internet. If that information is poisoned, and people can't trust us, then the whole structure may collapse.

Your post reminded me of a news story from a couple of decades ago. After the fall of the Soviet Union people started cutting down and selling copper cable from high power electrical transmission systems (nominally still in use). I don't hate those folks who cut down the cable - they were doing what they had to do to survive. I did hate the fact that the transmission systems were being destroyed. It just seemed like there must be a pretty simple enforcement system that would stop the destruction. Everybody likely knew who was buying the cable - these folks could be stopped fairly simply if anybody took the obvious steps. Similarly, most people likely knew who was cutting the cable or where to look to stop folks from cutting more. So the system was messed up, but the parts of the system that led to the destruction of the cable could easily be fixed. The actual folks who cut the cable, in my mind, were less responsible than the authorities who couldn't be bothered to take a few minimal steps. That's my reading in any case.

Thanks again.

Smallbones_(smalltalk) 17:32, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

That was insightful, I'm the one who should thanking you (again :D), and... You're welcome.--AldNon^Ucallin?☎ 19:54, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

		Editor of the Week
		Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week, for integrity and valiance in the fight against paid editing. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:Coretheapple submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

I nominate Smallbones as Editor of the Week for the integrity that he brings to the project, and for his yeoman work - unsung, unrecognized, unappreciated - fighting to preserve Wikipedia from encroachments by paid editors. He has been an editor for more than eight and a half years, and during that time has edited a staggering 11,337 articles at last count. He is not an administrator, heaven only knows why (too much sense?), but a content contributor par excellence, with in excess of 31,000 edits, 65% of them in article space. He is a generalist's generalist, with his top contributions ranging from Bernard Madoff to Media, Pennsylvania. But his prodigious talents as a contributor are not the only assets he brings to the project. No one has fought longer and more valiantly against paid editing. It is a great pleasure to nominate Smallbones for Editor of the Week.

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Smallbones

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Editor of the Week
for the week beginning August, 2014

A content contributor par excellence known for integrity and yeoman work fighting encroachments by paid editors.

Recognized for

Contributions ranging from Bernard Madoff to Media, Pennsylvania.

Nomination page

Thanks again for your efforts! Go Phightins! 16:04, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your continuing concern over the issue and your calm, level-headed approach. ```Buster Seven Talk 18:36, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Wow! It's always great to get feedback like this. Thanks Coretheapple and Buster7 Smallbones_(smalltalk) 18:49, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey Smallbones, just wanted to express my thanks as well for both for your contributions and your engagement with others on broader ideas with Wikipedia that I've seen on Jimbo's talk page and other spots. I often find it difficult to jump into those conversations myself, but I do read them, and I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 02:02, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Very pleased to propose this. Your contributions are tremendously appreciated. Coretheapple (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Louis Kahn's Fred E. and Elaine Cox Clever House is for sale

Are you still interested in taking photos of Louis Kahn architecture? I see that his Fred E. and Elaine Cox Clever House in Cherry Hill, NJ is for sale. Here is the Zillow page: http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/417-Sherry-Way-Cherry-Hill-NJ-08034/38226533_zpid/ Hopefully you would be able to gain access to the house for photos. Good luck! Bilpen (talk) 15:36, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

That shopping/lifestyle center

Does it even meet notability criteria? I just tagged. All I can find are articles in local papers. I don't believe we have articles on pizzarias, donut shops and shopping malls of strictly local interest. Coretheapple (talk) 21:20, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Amendment request archived

Hi Smallbones, an arbitration amendment request you were listed as a party to has been archived to the Wifione case talk page. A motion was proposed but did not gain enough support among arbitrators. For the Arbitration Committee, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 01:19, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Angry Orchard

You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD, though I would think "40% of the United States hard cider market, rising to 50% by 2014" is a reasonable claim of notability. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 09:02, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Your MkuCr proposal

I don't agree with your proposal but I am not going to oppose it, partly to see what other people think but mostly because I wonder if establishing a consensus on a change is more important than the change itself at this point. AmateurEditor (talk) 04:14, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Margo Humphrey

On 26 April 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Margo Humphrey, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Margo Humphrey based her colorful The Last Bar-B-Que on The Last Supper, creating one of the "iconic images in American visual culture? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Margo Humphrey. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thanks for improving the weekend on the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Precious

images of historic sites
Thank you, veteran editor, for quality articles such as Chambersburg, Pennsylvania and Margo Humphrey, for images, maps and stats of NRHP sotes, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (27 September 2010)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

A year ago, you were recipient no. 1202 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Edit help please

A user has just recently gone around deleting the standard See also section from most of the Pennsylvania lists on specious grounds, but as he's been stalking me for over a year and has declared a long-term grudge against me, so your revisions might actually have a chance at staying. Nyttend backup (talk) 13:12, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Every-municipality photos

Thanks for the notice; I commented quickly after the end of what you'd said. I've emailed you, although it's not a time-sensitive thing. Nyttend (talk) 02:48, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

PA photos

Yes, I'll get back out there this weekend. Generic1139 (talk) 14:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

fantastic! Smallbones_(smalltalk) 14:17, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Pictures

At first I wondered why you'd use the horse sign in the township article, because it's not particularly representative, but now that I see that it has a farm and municipal building picture, I agree with it. It adds some local color and is mildly humorous. As far as the sign, I have just one idea: radioactive elements like technetium, rutherfordium, and dubnium are transition metals, and this church is apparently in the transition Metal Township between the mountains and the southeast...yes, yes, it's lame, but I can't think of any real explanation. Nyttend (talk) 21:27, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Possible hint 1 [1] radioactivity in granite tombstones in New Jersey. (But why would anybody care?) Smallbones_(smalltalk) 23:43, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Nuclear powered pacemakers?? [2] Perhaps if they were platinum covered or diamond studded! Smallbones_(smalltalk)

Your thoughts?

Timeline of Philadelphia has a discussion about selection and inclusion criteria. Two editors are discussing it, but we have divergent views. More opinions would be helpful. - SummerPhD^v2.0 13:23, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

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Vordrak (talk) 12:39, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not interested in gamergaters, witchfinders, etc. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 13:36, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Cold Spring Township

That is rather funny; I'm particularly amused by the lack of local government because folks just stopped running. Nyttend (talk) 22:59, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

A little overly optimistic?

Jimbo on COI editing petrarchan47 คุ ก 20:58, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Curiosity

Hi Smallbones. I noticed your comments at Jimbotalk and was a little confused - I've racked my brains over recent cases but I can't think of a case where ArbCom have overruled the TOU on undisclosed paid editing (I rather hope we haven't, since I issue blocks for precisely that reason on a fairly regular basis). Please could you point me in the right direction? It may be that our interpretation of an ArbCom decison is different, in which case some clarification may be needed. Much obliged, Yunshui ^雲 _水 11:51, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Wifione#Paid_editing which says in part:

"6) The Committee has no mandate to sanction editors for paid editing as it is not prohibited by site policies. The arbitration policy prevents the Committee from creating new policy by fiat."

which just seems silly to me. Having a policy on "undisclosed paid editing" (and it is definitely a policy, see WP:TOU) is definitely a (limited) policy on paid editing, but apparently ArbCom disagrees. Note that any policy we have on anything is "limited" in some way, if only by WP:IAR. I asked ArbCom to reconsider (see here) this dictum (it had no bearing on the case since Wifione did his undisclosed paid editing before the change in the TOU).

The vote was 4 to 6 against removing the principle with the reasoning of the six being IMHO all over the place, ranging from (my reading) "this policy has to be reconfirmed by the community before it becomes policy" to "we could never enforce this policy, so just ignore it." Given the 4-6 split and the IMHO illogical reasoning of the six, I don't think that ArbCom will ever try to say this again, but they did say it once. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 14:52, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Ah yes, Wifione - I wasn't active on that case, which is probably why it slipped my mind. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. For what it's worth, I'll do my level best in any future cases to ensure that we don't say that again... Yunshui ^雲 _水 15:04, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Consider cross-posting?

Would you consider cross-posting your remarks at GGTF ? That's supposed to be what it's for :) --Djembayz (talk) 12:57, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Excellent idea. I'll do it right away. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 13:08, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Dog breed

I stumbled upon the page on Mongrels, and saw the picture of (what I can understand) your own dog. [3] It did peak my interest since it lacked any information on what type of mix it is; google seems rather futile in this particular case since plenty of time has gained naught. I do have to apologize in advance if making this edit in your talk page is not the way I was supposed to do it: new user. But, I just have to know since she(?) is an absolutely magnificent dog.

MagnificentScarab (talk) 18:43, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Recant your accusation of Paid editing immediately

You recently made an accusation of Paid editing on my Talk page, disguised as a polite question. ('May I ask if you are a car thief?' is an example of a polite question with obvious accusatory intent.) Not only does this exhibit a lack of good faith but constitutes a personal attack on me specifically, both of which are contrary to Wikipedia standards of civil behavior.

When I first saw your message on my talk page, I was so unprepared for its intent, that I completely mistook your meaning, and assumed you were making me an offer to do paid editing for you, and took you to task about it as a violation of WP guidelines. However, upon further examination of your recent contributions I learned the truth. You had made a minor edit at Vemma at 06:31 2 Oct 2015. Within the hour, you had made very similar entries (7:07 and 7:31) on the talk pages of two users who had previous edits there, namely, Mathglot (last Vemma edit: 2013), and Amsterdad, in both cases asking "politely"—to be sure—whether we engaged in paid editing. Had it been only a single entry on my Talk page, I could perhaps have imagined some kind of screw-up or mistake on your part, but given that you separately edited two User Talk pages and made similar accusations, I cannot see that it could have been a simple error on your part.

There can be no reason whatever for you to have made an accusation, or even to have posed a question to me however politely on this topic. You and I have never interacted before, to my knowledge. As you are an editor with autopatrolled status, ten years seniority and over 35,000 edits, you must know WP policies and guidelines far better than I do. I am utterly unable to account for your rash behavior.

I condemn your harassment and personal attack on my reputation as a Wikipedia editor in the strongest possible terms. I demand you recant and formally apologize to me on my Talk page immediately with a very clear statement of error on your part, or else be prepared to back up your accusation of Paid editing.

I cannot speak for @Amsterdad:, but I call their attention to this comment.

Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 01:34, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Mathglot, for replying to this much more eloquently than I did. I see now there is no response. Amsterdad (talk) 15:11, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Radnor Township, Delaware County

Welsh Congregational Church

Methodist church (former)

Thought you might be amused to see a few images that I've just uploaded from a couple of weeks ago, when I went through Radnor Township in Delaware County, including the two to the right. Nyttend (talk) 13:28, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Second request to recant

This is a second request for you to recant and apologize.

Were I the subject of a WP biography, your barely-veiled implication about paid editing in the form of a polite question would have been rapidly reverted due to the policies covering biographies of living persons, in particular, contentious material that is unsourced or poorly sourced, as you offered no source or evidence whatever. I realize this policy doesn't cover editors, but I am nevertheless a living person, and I strenuously object.

Let's not make a big deal out of this—errare humanum est—just admit your mistake and apologize on my Talk page, and we can move on, no hard feelings. Just to be clear what you're apologizing for: I have no hurt feelings; my reputation as an editor has been damaged by an entry on my talk page implying that I may be a paid editor. You made that entry, so you are responsible for the (ongoing) damage. That's what you're recanting and apologizing for.

Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 00:29, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Nice pics. Coincidence? You know what they say, If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. That sounds like a good plan to me. :-) Mathglot (talk) 00:42, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!

I am working on Derry, PA page and would like to add a picture of the Crest in the side bar to the main body title CREST. So far I have had no luck. Do you have any pointers for me? I am new to Wiki, LOL!

Rocketfoot (talk) 16:53, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

after WikiConference USA 2015

Thanks for commenting at the conference on harassment issues. I am interested to follow up and research as we discussed. I'm not an expert on how Wikipedia runs or should run, but I'll be happy to learn in small bites. -- econterms (talk) 23:34, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

I'll be checking with several other editors over the next few days. Making progress. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 23:38, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Ryan Memorial Library, St. Charles Borromeo Seminary, Wynnewood, PAJDisston (talk) 00:06, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

WRT Work List

http://www.wrtdesign.com/work/awards/2014 Monsi516 (talk) 00:12, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Photo request

It would be great to put a photo of the Parkway House, Philadelphia, on the page for Elizabeth Hirsh Fleisher (See the 2nd ref). Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 00:40, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

It may take me a few weeks. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 01:08, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

I'll be happy to get a snapshot of it today, if you'll accept the Wikimedia Commons work of a user who has been banned from English Wikipedia under questionable rationale. - Mister 2001:558:1400:10:B15A:74E8:F4BB:162B (talk) 12:58, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

The usual banned editor - I don't accept anything you do on Wikipedia. You've been told several times to keep off this page. Stay off. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 13:41, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Did you know Mary Mark is a paid editor? - Mister 2001:558:1400:10:6456:1A00:C438:D070 (talk) 17:51, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Stay off of my user talk page. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 18:11, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

I know nobody likes banned users...

...but please take caution when editing in affect after a banned editor, like you did on MyWikiBiz.. After your attempt to revert the fix of that link, you chose to remove it. However, the reason you provided "the next ref covers it" wasn't entirely true, and your edit was reverted. Please review your edit from an outside-perspective and ask yourself "will this help the content of the encyclopedia, to do this edit" before editing. Thank you, and happy editing! (t) Josve05a (c) 23:22, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Good advice here for you, Smallbrains. Wake up and try to be a Wikipedia editor, not a vengeance machine. - 2601:42:C100:9D83:7C54:6959:E79:ADC0 (talk) 10:35, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

The usual banned editor. Stay off this page Smallbones_(smalltalk) 13:43, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

And you've been told numerous times to stop spreading lies about a particular banned user, yet you continue to do so. How about you stop first, and then your Talk page will remain pristine? - Mister 2001:558:1400:10:B15A:74E8:F4BB:162B (talk) 13:55, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Philadelphia pagemoves

I've fixed Walnut Street. I'm not going to touch Templetown/CBMoore until you've checked; of course I'll perform this kind of action when you're confident that it's needed, but when you're not yet sure, I don't want to take action only to discover that there was a comparatively simple mistake. Let me know that you've finished checking and that you're confident that this is the correct move, and I'll readily do it. Nyttend (talk) 02:50, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

False precision

I hate to advise such a longtime editor to refresh the knowledge of WP:SYNTH. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:51, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

which?

Is it the otter way or the ottar way? It must be one way or the other! --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:16, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

? Rose oil (rose otto, attar of rose, attar of roses or rose essence) ? Smallbones_(smalltalk) 18:21, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Information appears to stew out of me naturally, like the precious ottar of roses out of the otter.

Mark Twain: The Fate of Humor, page 97. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:52, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

I was comparing to your User Page.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:16, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I've made the correction to "ottar", which is how the Gutenberg edition has it in Roughing It. I'd seen it several ways, including "attar" in another edition of "Roughing It", which completely blows the joke. The sentence must have driven copyeditors crazy. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 23:22, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I can see how it must have driven copyeditors crazy. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:27, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Roosevelt Park pictures

Great pictures for Effie's Roosevelt Park.

Template:Did you know nominations/Effie Maud Aldrich Morrison

Using one for the hook and it looks real good.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Jimbo's talk

When last year did Jimbo tell me I was not to post on his talk page? As you should be aware, he often uses ambiguous language and doesn't ping people. For what should be obvious reasons, given my recent comment there, I don't watchlist his page. - Sitush (talk) 17:09, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

@Sitush: It was just before the 2014 Wikimania Conference. It may take me awhile, but if you'd like I can find the exact diff. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 17:13, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Please do. I probably won't be around much as I am not very well but I'll check back in a day or two. Until then, please let me comment stand. Jimbo can remove it if he wishes. - Sitush (talk) 17:27, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Looking at this, I'm uncertain if "Please go away then" was a request by Jimbo to not post at that page or just a suggestion to stay off the page if Sitush didn't want to see the drama in it. You should ask for clarification in case he meant the latter interpretation. 69.5.131.1 (talk) 17:36, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Wikilawyering from an anon? Smallbones_(smalltalk) 17:39, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Actually, the IP is pretty much on the same page as me. You're getting into dodgy territory, Smallbones, and it really should not be you who polices what I do for reasons that should be fairly obvious. Like I said, let Jimbo deal with it and stop being his lackey. Apologies for any typos - meds are well kicked in. - Sitush (talk) 00:22, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

And now I have seen your diff, subtly inserted to a place I have already told you I do not watch rather than on this page where I said I would return. You seem unable to parse the English language and you have also ignored subsequent events on my talk page and (understandably) an email. Now back off and reinstate what I said, please. - Sitush (talk) 00:31, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

, anyone not site banned should have their comments left alone or failing that an ANI. I personally would have reverted any removal not done by Jimbo if they were not site banned. Just my opinion but I strongly suggest not doing that again. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 17:51, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

I think the ArbCom case last year settled that issue. Jimbo is basically allowed to run his talk page as he wishes, and that includes allowing others to remove trolls and disruptors. If he has any reservations about my actions, he can contact me as he wishes. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 18:02, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Last year dealt with a banned user, not a member in good standing. I've readded the comment and will remind you this does not qualify as a 3rr exemption. Please take the issue to the appropriate noticeboard if you wish to contest but I note you've removed apprx 3 times thus far readding will put u over 3rr. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 18:28, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Read the case again. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 22:14, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

What part? Hell in a Bucket (talk) 22:32, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, if looks like you are arguing just to argue. When that's the case I ask folks to stay off my talk page. Feel free to stop back here in a few months. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 23:29, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Smallbones, please can you tell me what your role is on Jimbo's talk page? I think you may see yourself as something a little more than the rest of us do. I take issue to you constantly removing other people's comments and acting like you are some sort of appointed censor. You're not. Cassianto ^Talk 12:06, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Further to that, I have just seen Hell in a Bucket's link below. I trust that it won't be long before you are shooed away like the proverbial pest you are coming across as. Cassianto ^Talk 12:13, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Arb Case Amend Request

As per my previously stated intention please see [[4]]. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 02:22, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Advice

Can you take a look at Palace Theatre (Marion, Ohio)? I originally went there to fix an issue with the NRHP infobox (based on the articles with infobox problems tracking category) then fixed some other issues. The article looked pretty good, so I started to look at it to clean it up for GA. In doing so I saw some overlaps with the text and the much referenced Hoffman book (and, d'oh, its pretty obvious now), it turns out the author of the article was the author of the book. I saw it had some COI issues, and maybe even a user name issue with the "Atmospheric theatre" user name and http://www.atmospherictheater.com/, and then, well, see my final comments on the talk page. Since I've put in some work on the article, and made some recommendations as to how to proceed with the original writer, I'm too close to it now to be objective as to how much cutting must be done. Can you give some advice on what to do next? Thanks. Generic1139 (talk) 04:18, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Regarding your recent edits to Jimbo's talk page

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		There are quite a few things about which we might disagree, but if Jimbo himself thanks you for helping keep his user talk page clean, as he did here, I think you have earned this. John Carter (talk) 16:37, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

5 Million: We celebrate your contribution

	We couldn't have done it without you
	Well, maybe. Eventually. But the encyclopedia would not be as good. Celebrate 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:41, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

I got another message that indicated I created a problem. Sorry. I'm not having much luck fixing this. Sigh. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:30, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

5 million message

Thank you for the 5 million article message. However, it looks like it needs something to close it, a } or something. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 16:19, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Banning policy amendment request

The amendment request to the banning-policy case has been archived at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Banning Policy#Amendment request: Banning Policy (November 2015). For the Arbitration Committee, Miniapolis 23:39, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

List of municipalities in Pennsylvania

Something has gone wrong with the List of municipalities in Pennsylvania, but I can't figure out what has happened. Please take a look.--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:10, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Re: Punishment

Neelix made some awful mistakes, he's been punished.

Many people, including myself, strongly disagree. There has been no punishments. Neelix is still free to edit Wikipedia, which is indicative of a lack of punishment. Removing his admin rights and ability to create redirects is not a punishment of any kind. Viriditas (talk) 02:16, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way. Please consider his standing in the community - he's been shamed - that his real name is well known, and that there have been multiple articles written about him in real newspapers saying what a great Wikipedian he is. This must be a terrible blow to him - of course we can say "it's all his fault". I don't think that dragging his name through more mud will do any good. I don't know him or have any stake in this, but I think we can leave it here. If he comes out defiant and starts attacking others for his problems, that would be another matter, but I don't think that's going to happen. Let me offer a quote that you likely will remember "In this world, hatred has never been defeated by hatred. Only love can overcome hatred. This is an ancient and eternal law." I just think that there has been enough done in this case. Sorry that we disagree. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 03:37, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

From the above, I take it you don't understand love at all. To quote Billie Holiday:

You don't know what love is

Until you've learned the meaning of the blues

Until you've loved a love you've had to lose

You don't know what love is

Love is a many-splendored thing. Removing Neelix's right to edit Wikipedia is neither hatred nor anti-love. I don't know Neelix's real name, and I don't care to know it. All I know is the damage he has done to this site, a site I love enough to want to protect. I'm sorry you disagree. Neelix has no right to edit here, and for the community to allow it tells me that the bias towards admins and editors with advanced permissions is so bad that the only way to solve it is to work tirelessly against it until all editors are treated with fairness and impartiality. Any non-admin in Neelix's place would not be allowed to edit. Viriditas (talk) 03:52, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Arbcom election

It's been pointed out to me by one very senior editor, admin, sittng Arb, and very close friend in RL, that my answers to your questions may have been too short. I have therefore greatly expanded my answer to your first question and I expect the courstsy that you will read it. The second question however still leaves me deeply offended. One of the problems on Wikipedia for which I have been spearheading a campaign for years to get abolished, is the notion that elections are a free for all for people to make personal attacks with impunity. One of the days, comments like yours will not only cause me to withdraw from an election, but also to retire from Wikipedia completely. Regards, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:20, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Your voter guide

Hello. I prefer transclude your voter guide (and the others) into a single page (to facilitate reading and comparisons).

You have not included your guide in the [[Category:Wikipedia Arbitration Committee Elections 2015 voter guides]]. I have no opinion about that. But, if you change your mind, I would prefer that you protect this category by a pair of <noinclude>...</noinclude>
You are using second level sections, i.e. ==xxx==, in your guide. After transclusion, the TOC looks bad. If you were using third level sections, i.e. ===xxx===, the TOC would look better. In the Main space, I would have done that by myself. In your Userspace, I think it is polite to ask your permission. Pldx1 (talk) 18:36, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

I think I've met your requests. Please just change it and let me know if I haven't. My only question is whether people will be able to read one big long voters guide, and, potentially, "why isn't mine on top?" Smallbones_(smalltalk) 18:49, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, everything is OK. About "why isn't mine on top?"... Great remark. My intent is not to publish such a 'one big long guide', but to describe how to build one, as in User:Pldx1/ACE2015. The burden of ordering being on the shoulders of the final user. Best regards. Pldx1 (talk) 19:26, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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Nicola D'Ascenzo

I'd love it if you took some photos. Washington Memorial Chapel is close to both of us, and I'm eager to see the Aviation Windows in Lakehurst NJ. Not a resident of Rose Valley, he lived in Germantown. We can talk on Sunday. Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:28, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations

.. on being literally the first person to vote. You have damn fast fingers. Kevin Gorman (talk) 18:01, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@Kevin Gorman: and congratulations back for you voting 3 times! (Yes, I know about resubmitting the entire ballot - and even intend to try it just so that I know that it works! Maybe I'll also try to be the last person to vote - but that would take lots of luck!) Smallbones_(smalltalk) 18:07, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Haha, I actually have no idea how that happened. I only hit submit once! Maybe the GGTF mafia which I'm apparently at least a commissioner for has used our leet haxxing ability to have voters vote five or six times each. Kevin Gorman (talk)

A brownie for you!

For your germane and important questions posed to the arbcom candidates. I found them useful in considering who to vote for. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 21:58, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

thanks very much for the voting guide. about the strategy C: "Do you really want Wikipedia to collapse?" this is an argument in favor of bad leadership, rather than no leadership. as we know from Jo Freeman, in the "no leaders" organization, it is really leadership in the shadows among a clique. so it will never collapse, merely melt down into a wikinews. it would only revive when good leadership emerges again. we see good leadership off wiki already, so a throw the bums out is not nihilistic, merely tactical as to where to organize. Duckduckstop (talk) 02:19, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

A bit of a funny

This is a quote about me that may be triggering to some, so I'm hiding it behind a hat

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

This always amused me, but I figured it would disappear from the publuc internet one day, so I figured putting in your eventual archives is as good as anywhere else. Feel free to remove if you'd prefer. It really says something about the kind of editors many content areas are up against.

Let's show hippy boy what the real world is like. Perhaps we should tell everyone at UC Berkeley what a rotten person Kevin Gorman is. How he raped men's rights. How about a few "castrate Kevin Gorman" signs posted all over the place. Maybe we can get some of the faculty to denounce Kevin Gorman and hound him until he has no space to escape from what he has done. Let's go for blood.^[1]

^ Masculist, Man. "Wiki Reeks". http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/wiki-reeks/. Someone who thinks they're a real news agency, how cute!". {{cite news}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); External link in |work= (help)

Photo of McCall School in Society Hill

Do you know if someone's photographed the General George McCall School in Society Hill, Philadelphia? WhisperToMe (talk) 14:22, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

File:General George A. McCall School 325 s 7th, Philly.JPG - not all that good, but I took it on Halloween 2014 Smallbones_(smalltalk) 14:29, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much! If you have alternate pics please upload them too. I'm interested in McCall because the people in Chinatown send/sent their kids there. On zh:费城教育局 (Chinese article for School District of Philadelphia) I want to use pictures of schools used by the Chinese community of the city (the home and school association of McCall had Chinese on its page: http://web.archive.org/web/20100816161111/http://www.meetingmccall.com/home-Chinese.html ). WhisperToMe (talk) 14:44, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

If taking a better photo is the best course of action that would be good too. Additional photos of South Philly High and Bartram would also be good! Anyway I've got some additional Philly requests at Commons:Commons:Picture_requests/Requests/United_States#Philadelphia_area.2FGran_Filadelfia so if you are interested in taking any of these please do so :) WhisperToMe (talk) 16:17, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for finding and uploading the pic! I would still like for someone to photograph the Graterford sign at the intersection but other pictures will help a lot! WhisperToMe (talk) 17:56, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

I found a document from the Pennsylvania state government that proves that Federal Street School is Andre Jackson School, so I renamed and expanded Andrew Jackson School (Philadelphia). One thing I am doing is focusing on the whole school and not only the building. Of course the architecture gives the notability and there should be info on that, but also having stuff on the catchment area, the school's history and culture, the student body, etc. is important too. Hopefully such articles encourage students to become Wikipedians themselves once they reach high school age! WhisperToMe (talk) 18:45, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

BTW do you know if there is a photo of the Charles Santore Branch (formerly Southwark Branch) in Queen Village? WhisperToMe (talk) 19:37, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much! They are some beautiful pictures!

If you can get the Santore branch that would be really awesome :) WhisperToMe (talk) 04:53, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Please stop

Not sure who you think I am, but your reverts of my comments are not appropriate, nor appreciated. I have a right to deny false claims leveled against me. - Checking the checkers (talk) 14:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Further: There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Checking the checkers (talk) 14:51, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

You've been told to stay off my talk page multiple times. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 14:55, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Just curious, when did you tell Checking the checkers to stay off your Talk page? We here in Chicago couldn't find it. - 64.94.31.206 (talk) 13:27, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

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Misogyny

No, I won't drop it, not just yet. Some people seem to think that RfA and election time are an opportunity to break every rule of decency in the book, and the community is happy to sit back and let it go with impunity; then you all complain that we don't get enough candidates for special office. Making leading questions to blatantly accuse candidates of misogyny is beyond the pale. In general, this community empathises with women's issues, and I do too, but it has no need to tolerate gratuitous behaviour from supporters of feminine issues and the use of Wikipedia and its elections as a platform for aggressive or any other kind of socio-political platforming - this has already been demonstrated by Arbcom cases. You might wish to take another look at my syntax and the questions I was asked. One user clearly asked me to identify myself as either 1) a crank, 2) a villainous bully, and 3) a pederast. I'm not a vindictive person so if you have finally unserstood, I will happily drop the stick. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 21:16, 12 December 2015 (UTC).

Binary options, what happened.

You asked what happened with binary option regulation. See Talk:Binary_option#UK_regulation_changing, where I just wrote up an explanation with links to reliable source. There was a big loophole in binary option regulation. The EU allows a financial service to be offered cross-border within the EU. Cyprus allows binary options brokers of the bucket shop type (where the counterparty is the broker), such as Banc de Binary, which most financial regulators do not. The UK regulates binary options as gambling. This allowed Banc de Binary to sell binary options in the UK without being regulated by either the UK's Financial Conduct Authority or the UK's Gambling Commission.

To close this loophole, the FCA, the EU financial regulators, and the UK gambling authorities all had to get together and change the rules to make binary options a financial product. That was a big deal, but it's happening. See page 39 of [5] for the official UK government position. Once this is effective, binary options brokers will come under the regulation of the FCA when selling to UK residents. This provides much stronger consumer protection for UK buyers. (In the US, the CFTC and the SEC shut down Banc de Binary's operations. The FCA may do the same.)

This has not yet taken effect. The final rules are supposed to be published on 3 January 2016, to take effect on 3 January 2017. The binary options article probably should be updated early in 2016, when the new rules are out. John Nagle (talk) 20:48, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas!!

		Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2016 !
		Remember: Look sweet... Eat everything... Seek the warmest spots to nap and purr... Try to wait until after to demolish the paper and ornaments... -- Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:35, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's greetings

Hi Smallbones, wishing you and your family all the best for Christmas and New Year. Thank you for everything you've done on Wikipedia in 2015, particularly for your support of women. All the best, SarahSV ^(talk) 23:35, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Writegeist

Hi. Is there some place where Jimbo indicated that Writegeist is not welcome on his talkpage? Jimbo's page has very large traffic so I might have missed it. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 23:53, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Jimbo does not need to specifically say that editors are not welcomed on his page, he leaves the moderation of his page up to others. This has been upheld twice at arbcom. I warned Writegeist and he persisted in his trolling. That's all there is. If you disagree ask Jimbo or ask arbcom. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 23:59, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Could you provide a link to support the statement here that either Jimmy Wales has specifically requested you moderate his talk page, or specifically requested that user not post to his page? I'm not familiar with the specifics so my apologies if this is a well known thing. Prodego ^talk 00:27, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

See [6], specifically [7]. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 00:40, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I will ask Jimbo directly. Could you simply leave the last comment by Writegeist until Jimbo clarifies this matter himself? This is up to you of course. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 00:53, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

We can leave Writegeist's comments *off* the page. I don't believe that there is any chance that Jimbo will say that he is welcome to comment on the page. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 00:56, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I was unaware of that case. The way I interpret both that comment and the arbcom case is that Jimmy approves of the removal of comments from his user talk page and the removal of disruptive and unproductive discussion from his talk page. This fits with what I would consider the long term practice for his page.

I do not interpret it as giving you any specific authority to determine if comments should be removed from his talk page. In that light, I think you should tone down your edit summaries, because "Writegeist| not welcomed on this page, take it to arbcom if you disagree" and "Writegeist not welcome on this page" give the impression that these are specific instructions from Jimmy. This comment strongly suggests that you have special arbcom endorsed authority on the page. In that case, removing the material comes with all the weight of a user removing material from their own talk page. It does not give the impression that you are removing disruptive material per the user's request, in which case a consensus that the material is not disruptive could legitimately lead to restoring it. Obviously no such consensus exists here, so I see no need to restore this comment without such a discussion.

I don't want to wade through the whole thing to see if I agree about removing the material. I'm sure you have good judgement based on the arbcom case, and I'm not sure how any more productive discussion can be had on that topic. I just saw the edit summary and was somewhat concerned about the meaning.

I may be incorrect, and Jimbo Wales did intend to delegate his ability to arbitrarily remove any comments from his talk page to you specifically. That is to say, the authority to remove comments regardless of the consensus of other editors that material is disruptive. If that is the case then I think he should post a notice saying that specifically, or at least clarify here. Does this seem reasonable? Prodego ^talk 01:13, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

It is definitely *not* the case that Jimbo needs to specifically approve each deletion or specifically mention each editor who may be removed from the page. In other words, he let's others moderate the page. He did, in this case, make his opinion known enough on the page that I am confident that my judgement about Writegeist's comments will not be overturned by Jimbo. But that is a matter for Jimbo only, no discussion is needed. I also warned Writegeist, and I don't see any reason to back off from that warning. I have no special position on Jimbo's talk page. I've previously removed 2 sets of comments from his page, and both times I was dragged before arbcom, and both times they said that Jimbo has the right to determine his own rules for the page. As a side issue Jimbo said that he agreed with the quality of my moderation. I'll continue to moderate whenever I see something that is beyond the pale. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 01:35, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I agree with everything you've said. My only comment is that your edit summaries and warnings strongly give the impression that you do have a special position on Jimbo's talk page, and you should try to avoid giving that impression in the future. No objections to anything you've done, except the wording. Prodego ^talk 01:42, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Please review Wikipedia's "No Personal Attack" policy

Otherwise known as WP:NPA. I've noticed you breaching this policy quite a few times lately - as in "troll," "trolls," "smears," "gang-trolling,", "harassment and trolling," "amounts to harassment", and He has been trolling here, and if anybody takes responsibility for putting his comments back on the page, they are trolling also and will not be welcomed here. Per Wikipedia policy, you may be blocked if you persist with your personal attacks. Instead, why don't you calm down and have a nice cup of tea? Dan Murphy (talk) 17:11, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Stop your trolling and stay off my user page. Feel free to take this to ArbCom if you disagree with me. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 17:19, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

And it continues! A WP:NPA on me up above and at another user just now ("stop the trolling." Please desist from this disruption.Dan Murphy (talk) 17:40, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Stay off my talk page. That should be clear enough. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 17:46, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

George Soros

[8] where on the talkpage? 203.59.20.130 (talk) 04:57, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Lady Lilith

Hello, very nice to meet a new acquaintance on Wiki. No, I don't believe I've seen that painting before, but it IS beautiful. I do enjoy the story of the first Lilith, and many stories from religions and mythos. My name actually comes from this Lilith - I loved the character - combined with my enthusiasm for things English. The way the gents say "ooh, LOVELY!" over various things makes me giggle, so I added that. The double L is due to the popularity of the name online - I had to make it a bit different from the average user. So, there is the unexciting story of my name, but it is kind of you to introduce yourself. I edit when and where I can, as Real Life allows, and it appears we have some similar interests (although the extent of my Russian is limited to a semester's worth), so I expect our paths will cross in the future. LovelyLillith (talk) 17:10, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Help with article

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=RDX_Inc&action=history looks like it was written by someone concerned with the company. I'm so unaccustomed to en:wiki these days I'm not sure how to tag stuff like this when I find it. Any help would be most graciously appreciated. Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:46, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ellin Beltz: See Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#RDX_Inc Do you want to start the RfD? Smallbones_(smalltalk) 18:19, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ellin Beltz: - speedily deleted, though there are a couple of redirects (see WP:COIN) that probably should be deleted as well. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 04:26, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help! Did they get all the redirects? Everywhere I looked were pink boxes. Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:11, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ellin Beltz: looks like they got em all, plus a few more. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 20:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA

	Hawkeye7 RfA Appreciation award
	Thank you for participating in and supporting my RfA. It was very much appreciated. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:18, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA

	Brianhe RfA Appreciation award
	Thank you for participating at my RfA. Your support was very much appreciated even if I did get a bit scorched. Brianhe (talk) 02:59, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your support

	Peacemaker67 RfA Appreciation award
	Thank you for participating and supporting at my RfA. It was very much appreciated, and I am humbled that the community saw fit to trust me with the tools. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:46, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Jimbo's talk page, and your post on mine

I decided, on reflection, that, whilst it is unhelpful, disappointing and non-transparent, Jimmy has as much right to remove posts from his own page as we all do.

Please don't misconstrue that as agreement with the sanctimonious claptrap you posted on my page.

As for my somehow becoming "unwelcome" at that page, well, I hardly ever post or do anything controversial there, unlike some, so I disagree about the odds on that.

I consider this discussion concluded - I suggest you do the same. Thanks. Begoon ^talk 17:40, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Paxton Boys

Greetings, Smallbones, could this have been an error? Cheers, Caballero/Historiador^⎌ 19:16, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for catching this. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 20:04, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Category:Unassessed Philadelphia articles

Currently, this Category:Unassessed Philadelphia articles has 14 articles, all schools. I added talk page WikiProjects to the ones which were not school related. Please take a look at the rest, and especially those which are NRHP cited.--DThomsen8 (talk) 20:52, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Your request on ruwiki

I can help you with your request on ruwiki. I'm a ruwiki bot owner (400k edits). Вам нужен список категорий рувики, соответствующих определённым категориям анвики? MaxBioHazard (talk) 15:20, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Я ответил вам по поводу классификатора. Вы можете помочь, попросив админов енвики разобраться с фильтром правок или предложив изменения в мою систему классификации. MaxBioHazard (talk) 04:48, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

https://tools.wmflabs.org/mbh/article_classification_enhanced.cgi => [9]. I got workaround for the edit filter, now this table will be filled after button clicking on the classificator. MaxBioHazard (talk) 15:52, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

See [10] MaxBioHazard (talk) 17:17, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Also, current treemap, 1234 pages processed. MaxBioHazard (talk) 18:53, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Я ещё немного поклассифицировал и сделал схему для викисклада. Прежде чем заливать её на склад, хочу спросить, правильно ли я её англофицировал. MaxBioHazard (talk) 11:47, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
File:Ruwiki articles topics.png MaxBioHazard (talk) 17:13, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

RuWiki category game

Hiya, about this: I think I can do it, but I'm not sure how fast. When do you need it? — Le Loi 07:38, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Jimmy Wales page deletions

Hi -

I have noted your deletion of other peoples text from his page on at least two occasions in the past few months. Has he (Jimmy) asked you to do this? and given you a list of people he doesn't want to hear from? or subjects he doesn't want to hear about????

Please send me to the policy / request that you do this. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 02:40, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Ariconte See WP:UP#OWN "Traditionally Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit." ArbCom has made it clear several times that this applies to Jimbo's talk page.

Jimbo says at User:Jimbo Wales "Over 3,000 Wikipedians monitor my user and user talk page via a watchlist, and I trust them to edit and remove errors or attacks." i.e. that others should moderate his talk page.

I've moderated that page about 3-4 times and been dragged to ArbCom about 3 times. Each time they've upheld the right of Jimbo to have others moderate his talk page. And Jimbo has said there that he sees nothing wrong with my moderation. He has specifically said that others need to moderate because some folks are not there to engage in a discussion and that there are trolls who should be removed.

Since Jimbo is involved in most discussions there, I think you can see why it is difficult for him to moderate his page directly himself, and why it is better to have others doing the moderation. For example you can probably imagine some trolls would love to say "Jimbo Wales kicked me off his talk page, rather than answer my questions." I don't take orders from Jimbo or anybody else on this - it is my judgement only. However, if Jimbo were to say - by any means available, public or private, that he thinks my judgement is wrong, either in general or in a specific case, then I would respect his views.

So feel free to ask Jimbo, perhaps "Do you think it is fair that if somebody calls you a liar here that User:Smallbones should remove his current and future edits from your talk page?" But you know the likely answer to that, don't you? Smallbones_(smalltalk) 03:30, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

This is all correct. I welcome moderation by Smallbones and others. I welcome civil discussion if there is a feeling that some error has been made, and in such cases often the original author should be encourage to re-engage in a productive fashion.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 03:37, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Jimbo, I would be happy to have a productive conversation, but that takes you actually talking with me and not dissembling, dodging, and distracting. Do let me know if you would like to do that, at any point. I won't dance anymore though. Jytdog (talk) 03:42, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Smalllbones, just so we are on the same page here, see this. Jytdog (talk) 18:23, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

I've had my differences with Jimbo in the past, and I am irritated by his not responding to all the brilliant questions and fine comments I make on his page. But I wouldn't dream of insulting him and if I did, I would expect to be banished. He apparently has outsourced that to Smallbones, so that's that. Coretheapple (talk) 19:05, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Jytdog, as far as I'm concerned Jimbo can do pretty much what he wants on his talk page. I will say that several people now have noted your insult on that page, so do stay away from that (see WP:NPA) and taking a break from the page would be a good idea.

Coretheapple I don't consider anything here to be "outsourcing". I consider Jimbo's talkpage to be an exceptional resource for the entire community, and I do see people who seem to be trying to ruin that. So I am essentially moderating the page for the benefit of the community (IMHO) and even, at least indirectly, for my own benefit so that I can enjoy the page and civil discussion on it. I'm not surprised that more people don't moderate the page, I always get grief when I do it.

Jimbo Wales I agree with Core that you do not always respond to brilliant questions and fine comments (see e.g. [11]). I do understand that now is probably a busy time for you, so you can put it on your reading list :p

Smallbones_(smalltalk) 19:39, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

More people don't moderate the page partly because indeed you do get a lot of grief for doing so. Also I imagine that people feel annoyed, as I have been, by Jimbo not addressing questions addressed to him. Re Jytdog, I just wanted to add that I recall asking him to stay off my own user talk page because of his engaging in insults far less acrimonious than "liar" and "dissembler." He would do well to ponder his tendency to slip into insult mode. Coretheapple (talk) 20:06, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Smallbones, it is clear that Jimbo disagreed with your judgement in this specific example, which was not even the passage to which you objected. The decent thing would be simply to acknowledge that; I am uninterested in drama with you. I do not consider myself banned from his Talk page and I suggest you do the same. Jytdog (talk) 20:07, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Hey, stranger,

I hope you're well. I don't know what your politics are, but these are interesting times. Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 21:53, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

While Romney's dissertation may have been self-serving, I believe that it also was sincere. We'll see what the results are. Best ,== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 01:57, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

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Municipalities in industrial numbers

Hi! I think that you've seen our poster for Wikimania 2016. We are still moving on with our municipalities. There's a French project and a Czech project too; not that we had it planned, each project began on its own; in fact the Czech one is far more comprehensive (the smaller the country, the more intensive you can be). We'll be in Esino and I'd be glad to talk about our quite crazy project and other things we do. B25es (talk) 16:20, 16 March 2016 (UTC) (I pay more attention to es:wiki)

Bear versus bull (Biology)

The article I created is the Biological concept of the bear versus the bull, not the Economical concept, it's like the Biological topic of Tiger versus lion. There is the Economical concept of the bear versus the bull, but what I created is the Biological concept, using sources apart from those about Economics, which are useful for the Biological topic of the bear versus the bull, so please do not delete it, it is different to the Economical concept.

For example, these sources ^[1]^[2] show that bears may kill cattle or Bovini-bovinae for food, therefore, come into confrontation with bulls (in this sense, male cattle or Bovini-bovinae).

References for "Bear versus bull"

^[3] ^[2] ^[4] ^[5]

Regards, Leo1pard (talk) 06:45, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

References

^ Lariviere, S. (2001). "Ursus americanus" (PDF). Mammalian Species. 647: 1–11. doi:10.1644/1545-1410(2001)647<0001:UA>2.0.CO;2. Retrieved 2016-03-09.
^ ^a ^b "Mammalian Species - Ursus arctos" (PDF). American Society of Mammalogists, Smith College. 1993-04-23. Retrieved 2016-02-21. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)
^ Gomez, W.; Patterson, T. A.; Swinton, J.; Berini, J. (2011). "Bovidae: antelopes, cattle, gazelles, goats, sheep, and relatives". Animal Diversity Web. University of Michigan Museum of Zoology. Retrieved 2016-02-25.
^ Brink, Jack W. (2008). Imagining Head-Smashed-In: Aboriginal Buffalo Hunting on the Northern Plains (PDF). Athabasca University Press. ISBN 978-1-897425-09-1. Retrieved 2016-03-18.
^ Wyman T (2002). "Grizzly bear predation on a bull bison in Yellowstone National Park" (PDF). Ursus. 13: 375. Retrieved 2016-03-18.

"Hi" back

I'm a novice editor - open to suggestions if you see something that can be improved. Thanks! Pajokie (talk) 15:55, 20 March 2016 (UTC)pajokie

Twelfth Street Meeting House

You might enjoy reading this. I'd been toying with starting an article about it for a couple weeks, but seeing yesterday's obituary for the architect who relocated the building spurred me into action. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:23, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

User:Smallbones/vital articles

Hello, nice work there! Just one thing though: I've just imported edits from 2001 from the Nostalgia Wikipedia into two of your example articles, Economy of Jordan and Transport in Swaziland, which probably changes your data a bit. I don't feel comfortable changing the table myself, however. Graham87 08:00, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Invitation

Hi, Smallbones! Just saw your presentation on Jimbo's page. Thank you! I'm here to extend an invitation to you to review [12], and consider participating as one of the project coordinators. I've been getting guidance from Wikicology regarding presentation of the proposal to WMF, but need more quality editors working with me to build the team. I have received some positive input from two of our most active admins but before I begin an intense promotional effort, I want to perfect the presentation and iron-out as many of the kinks as possible. Your input will be greatly appreciated. Oh, and if you prefer to correspond via email, that's ok, too. Atsme^📞📧 15:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Boothwyn

Interesting. Presumably Reformed Presbyterian Church, Evangelical Synod at one time; it's part of the Presbyterian Church in America, into which the RPCES merged in the 1980s. My denomination's only Philadelphia-area churches are on Lawrence Road, Broomall (just down the road from the Thomas Massey House) and in a residential neighborhood just southeast of Jenkintown in Abington Township, Montgomery County.

"Borrowed your car" — huh? I'm not seeing anything like my car in these photos. Nyttend (talk) 01:28, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your comment on Andrew Caspersen. You're right - a notable person, and an interesting topic. Thanks for creating it. Neutrality^talk 22:39, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Editor of the Week : nominations needed!

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please review recent massive deletions

Saw your revert (since reversed) on a massive delete on a similar article, Gen. Beauregard Equestrian Statue. Not sure if I caught earliest recent massive delete on Robert E. Lee Monument (New Orleans, Louisiana). Please review. Thanks. -- Paulscrawl (talk) 05:16, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Others already on it, thanks, apparently, to section blanking bot alerts. Sorry to trouble you. Still, I wonder what has changed with numerous smaller edits by same IP between same's massive edits. Might be best to go back to last constructive edit? -- Paulscrawl (talk) 06:06, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

I'll try to keep an eye on it - probably over the weekend for anything major. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 13:59, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

GLAM Boot Camp announced (June 14-16 in DC)

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Link for GLAM Boot Camp

My apologies - here is the link for the GLAM Boot Camp mentioned above: Wikipedia:GLAM/Boot Camp. -Pete (talk) 04:30, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Chery Cole (Cheryl Fernandez-Versini)

Thank you for intervening in the Cheryl Cole (Cheryl Fernandez-Versini) matter. I strongly suspect this article is being plugged by her agents. Cole's whole page reads like a fan website. The trivia there is overwhelming; her misdemeanours are labelled "legal issues", but she narrowly escaped jail and was fined heavily (click here and here) for a violent drunken assault on a black female toilet attendant; she cannot sing properly click here but this is omitted in the page. The page must somehow be reverted to read like an article in an encyclopaedia. Thanks for reading this.Wythy (talk) 13:42, 5 May 2016 (UTC) I see someone has recently edited the "legal issues" part of the page to read as part of Cole's personal life. Wythy (talk) 13:47, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Metropolis

A rabbit trail led me to find this comment that you left at WT:NRHP last November. I'm looking to be in Metropolis at the end of next week; any desire for phone-booth photos? I wondered about a photo of Superman, but apparently he was built in the 1980s, so {{PD-US-no notice}} wouldn't work. Nyttend (talk) 06:19, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Actually I've been there previously (see File:Massac County Courthouse front and southern end.jpg) and gotten Fort Massac and all the NR sites in the county, as well as almost all of the sites in all other south-of-Interstate-70 counties in Illinois (the only exceptions are recent listings); this trip is for off-wiki purposes, but I'll have time for enjoyment as well. Nyttend (talk) 13:51, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Photo idea for Bala Cynwyd

Do you go into Bala Cynwyd to take pics? If so, I think the French International School of Philadelphia would be a good idea for a photo. It's at 150 North Highland Avenue, Bala Cynwyd, PA 19004 WhisperToMe (talk) 17:30, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

It might take awhile, but I occasionally go near there. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 13:20, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

test Smallbones_(smalltalk) 13:54, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Published image

I've discovered that one of your pictures of Gettysburg appears in Hallowed Ground: A Walk at Gettysburg (illustrated edition) by James M. McPherson, he of the Pulitzer and Battle Cry of Freedom. A cropped version of File:Gettysburg mon 72nd Penna Inf.JPG appears on p. 169. One of mine, File:90th Penna Infantry Monument Gettysburg PA1.jpg (cropped) appears on p. 81, and one of Carptrash's images File:11th PA Infantry monument.jpg on p.45. The illustrated version was published in 2015. Images are more or less properly credited, one could quibble about compliance with CC-by-SA text requirements. Acroterion (talk) 00:31, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

@Acroterion:, Thanks for the good news. Almost all of my photos are PD or CC-0 so I have no complaints on that score. I assume that the book is not online, so maybe I'll check out a few bookstores for it. Thanks again. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 03:51, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Connection request

I am a Wikipedia Visiting Scholar with the University of Pittsburgh and edit in this capacity as Barbara (WVS). I am helping to insert content from the Library's historical archives. I am not certain why I have not coordinated this effort with you and the GLAM project in the past, but I have my hand raised at this time. I have been asked back for 2016-17 and will continue to work with the University Library System in getting their content into the encyclopedia. I differ from other WVSs in that I actually live in Pittsburgh and I am able to conduct some 'training' this summer for librarians so that they can begin to enter information from their own areas of expertise. So hello-let me know how to plug into GLAM, lets have some edit-a-thons. Best Regards,

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Tuesday 6/14 GLAM Cafe

Hello Smallbones! Mary is out at the GLAM Bootcamp in DC this week. But I will be at GLAM Cafe, even early this time. See you then if you are attending. Dorevabelfiore (talk) 17:50, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

re meta:Grants:IdeaLab/Speedy access to a user-to-user help team

Sorry, computer is in a mess here and I thought I saw a notification for email - obviously I was wrong. But if you have feedback I'd value it, especially as you seem to have thoughts about the detail and specific points. FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 06:20, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

FYI

I saw your last comment related to ruwiki and not sure if anything can be done about it, except developing content on the subject, such as this page. One should realize that any serious contributor for hire by a large organization will look like a good guy who contributes positively to different subjects, except only a few specific things that are most important for his/her employer. Long time ago I read an interview given by a couple of these guys to Novaya gazeta. They worked on social sites/blogs (not wikis) to promote certain products and discredit products by competitors. They said they were doing two very different types of job. One of them was placing certain (dis)information about the products. The second type of the job was getting rid of undesirable contributors by making their life on a site unbearable. Real fun began when two "teams" hired by different employers began to fight. In such cases they sometimes had to come to an agreement. Interestingly enough, this newspaper itself had to close their blogs for a while (after beginning of the Ukrainian campaign) because of people posting huge number of highly inflammatory comments. Good luck, My very best wishes (talk) 18:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Obviously, it can be very difficult, but I think we have a few reasonable responses possible. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 18:17, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps I should spell it out. Consider someone who was paid to edit on behalf of Monsanto, to provide a certain systematic ideological spin on all articles about history and politics of country X, and so on. Will he declare a conflict of interest? No. Will he be telling obscenities as people on the blog of Novaya Gazeta? Of course not because that will get him blocked. He will do only two things: (a) removing all correct, but unsourced or relatively poorly sourced information and images with disputable copyright that presents his employer (government of country X) in a negative light, (b) placing sourced information and providing images about government X that paints it in a positive light, but their "enemies" in a negative light. Of course this is done by selecting certain biased sources and certain biased information from the sources and therefore goes against WP:NPOV, but you will not be able to distinguish such paid contributor from a dedicated volunteer with ideological POV. His important objective will be proving that he is a good guy; he will even create new pages on wiki written for him by other people. Speaking biological language, this is a parasite who does not kill its host and was not rejected by the immune system. My very best wishes (talk) 13:42, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Golconda

Thanks for the help and the update. I'm still uploading photos from two recent trips to southernmost Illinois, so I'm just paying a little more attention to the area at the moment. Nyttend (talk) 18:54, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

PS, you may have noted that the back-of-card text mentioned that the library was donated in memorial of a local resident; I'd searched before for the library's history without finding anything (no information on their website, but they host another copy of this postcard), but a quick Google search for the donor's name found a copy of the newspaper out of Carbondale with the dedication date for the library. Always helps to get more information! Nyttend (talk) 19:05, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

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Undisclosed paid editing

Re [13], you might want to change the phrase at the very end to "discouraging undisclosed paid editing". Just to avoid more unproductive drama. Brianhe (talk) 04:38, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

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Michael Wines

[14] fyi. raised a question about this on talkHappy monsoon day 01:57, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

no thoughts? Happy monsoon day 18:29, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Friends meeting houses in Pennsylvania

In your recent addition to Friends meeting houses in Pennsylvania, you added an entry for the Unionville Friends Meeting House on Rt. 82 in Unionville, PA. The only Unionville on Rt. 82 is Unionville, Chester County, Pennsylvania (map). Can you check your source for the coordinates? The coordinates listed are in the Millville area (matching the coordinates of the next entry), but Chester County is southwest of Philadelphia. -Niceguyedc ^{Go Huskies!} 01:40, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Niceguyedc Good catch! I've made the correction. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 02:33, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Photo requests in Hazleton

Do you have any plans to go to back to Hazleton anytime soon? If so, may I suggest some photo request ideas? WhisperToMe (talk) 21:58, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

@WhisperToMe: I've got a ton of other things to do in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, but Hazelton looks pretty well covered. Look in Commons, esp. in the Postcards category. I might make it up there by late September. Leave me a list if you'd like. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 22:22, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Ok! The list is related to the public school system, Hazleton Area School District

Hazle Township (five facilities are together)
- HASD administrative headquarters: 1515 West 23rd Street, Hazle Township, PA 18202
- Hazleton Area Career Center: 1451 W 23rd St, Hazle Township, PA 18202
- Hazleton Area High School: 1601 W 23rd St, Hazle Township, PA 18202
- Hazle Township Early Learning Center: 1400 West 23rd Street, Hazle Township, PA 18202
- Maple Manor Elementary / Middle School: 1700 West 22nd Street, Hazle Township, PA 18202
Hazleton:
- Hazleton Elementary / Middle School: 700 North Wyoming Street, Hazleton, PA 18201
- Heights-Terrace Elementary / Middle School: 275 Mill Street, Hazleton, PA 18201
- Arthur Street Elementary School: 424 East Ninth Street, Hazleton, PA 18201
Drums:
- Drums Elementary/Middle School: 85 S. Old Turnpike Road, Drums, PA 18222
- Hazleton Area Academy of Sciences: 40 Azalea Drive, Drums, PA 18222
Freeland: Freeland Elementary / Middle School: 400 Alvin Street, Freeland, PA 18224
McAdoo: McAdoo-Kelayres Elementary / Middle School: 15 Kelayres Road, McAdoo, PA 18237
Sugarloaf: Valley Elementary / Middle School, 79 Rock Glen Road, Sugarloaf, PA 18249
West Hazleton: West Hazleton Elementary / Middle School: 325 North St., West Hazleton, PA 18202

Thanks,

WhisperToMe (talk) 22:44, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

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Sweet Home Chicago

Yes, I agree with the revert, but I believe it best to keep the caption free of a spot to click to start any video, legal or not, avoiding the title containing the video name and the way you have presented it. I did the same thing about 4 years ago. Though it's legal to show events from the White House & Congress, we don't want new editors to think it's OK to display them that way, since most You Tube videos aren't for sure OK. People pull them, or violate copyright when the artists don't get paid for DVDs and music created for sale since one person decides to upload their copy to You Tube and all the other people get to enjoy their product for free. I wonder if there is a more official video from the White House which isn't on You Tube. The other thing that puzzles me is that every year, the President picks 5-6 people or bands to honor in the arts. They begin with small talk from the first couple, receive their medals, & appearances to honor the chosen ones, and then move to the Kennedy Center for a larger, Kennedy Center Honors series of performances with top people in the arts who perform their material. Every year, a national network (CBS, etc.) broadcast it, and after, sell the Kennedy Center concerts on DVD. Two years ago, that changed. You Tube banned any upload in the past two years of the Kennedy Center Honors (and it's always been difficult to find the White House appearances even on You Tube, like "Sweet Home Chicago", which was played again at the Kennedy Center 4 yrs ago before the new rules. So, that's why I began to revert it, but was so sick I ended in the hospital for a week and couldn't give it any thought. Sorry! I'd like to assume good faith and make newer friends since those editors from so many years ago are discontinuing editing. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 22:28, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

[lol-1] Masculist, Man. "Wiki Reeks". http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/wiki-reeks/. Someone who thinks they're a real news agency, how cute!". {{cite news}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); External link in |work= (help)

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