User talk:Σ/Archive/2011/August

Adminship

You appear to be a really enthusiastic and smart editor. Do you want me to nominate you for adminship? I also see that you've done heas of vandalism reverting and CSDs. Metricopolus (talk) 07:36, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

First off, I haven't written a featured article yet. Second, I don't want to be an admin. Thanks anyway. --Σ ^talk_contribs 16:44, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Since when was having written an FA a criterion for adminship? But if you don't want to that's fine. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:38, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Having a FA is one of those unwritten criteria which prevent a blizzard within 10 minutes of transcluding the RfA. My thoughts might change someday, maybe. --Σ ^talk_contribs 05:52, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Certainly don't run till you feel ready, but don't worry about FAs - they help, but they are absolutely not essential. I have very little article work to my credit, my DYK/GA/FA count is 0/0/0, and for that reason I was reluctant to be nominated; but in fact at my RFA lack of article experience caused no actual opposes, only a little muttering. JohnCD (talk) 09:48, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

In any case, I'll get opposed because of my userboxes. --Σ ^talk_contribs 01:54, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• Greek character, you're not the only lonely voice in this, I've been similarly approached. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 02:00, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

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Oops

Thanks for fixing my screw-up. Gerardw (talk) 23:22, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Declined Speedy Deletion nom

I have declined your speedy deletion request on Giant Panda Guerilla Dub Squad. The article claims that they received regular airplay on Sirius and XM, which appears to me to be a credible claim of significance or importance. I do admit that it's likely that they aren't notable, but not clearly enough to meet the lower bar on A7. I'm going to fix up some of the formatting, but feel free to take it to AfD if you think it's not notable. I'm watching here if you have any further comments. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:58, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

This will interest you, a lot

• See WP:Help desk#Searching for Improper Latin replacements for Greek Letters. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 23:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Heh. I've responded. --Σ ^talk_contribs 00:36, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

• Also, see this essay → WP:The best way to avoid ever being blocked. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 03:38, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

barnstar

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Thanks for reporting that guy...major flood vandal/sockpuppet. Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:03, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks --Σ ^talk_contribs 17:05, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Your display title, or however you want to call it...whoo!

Hey, Σ. I was wondering how can I view the source for your display title? I wanted to get some ideas on how to do mine. By the way, I just fell on your userpage randomly. It's not like if I was targeting you. But anyway, please let me know. Thanks! Lighthead ^þ 22:16, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, cuh. LOl. B.T.W., you like my userbox, heh?! Lighthead ^þ 22:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

adminship

Why don't you request adminship? You're a solid contributor. I'd speedy support it. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 06:39, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Hm, you're the second person within the week to say that. Has someone been canvassing? Anyway, you can see my response in my August 2011 archive. Thanks anyway. --Σ ^talk_contribs 06:46, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism?

Why do you remove the scentific names from the List of creatures in the Walking with... series? That would be the base of the list. Now the page is unacceptable. SO THIS IS NOT VANDALISM. I edited the page and I will edit again because that was the correct form and not just rough-and-ready like list named character set. So pleae don't remove it! --CamoBeast (talk) 13:30, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

You could have pressed the undo button then. I misidentified, as the code used in tables is very confusing when looking at a page diff. --Σ ^talk_contribs 15:24, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Your userpage

You must have the most interactional user page I've seen. I opened it up to see how you customized your display name, got the personalized vandalism warning, and couldn't even copy and paste the one template I did see to see how that was written. I guess if your goal is fighting vandalism, you have to be a bit sly. Well, I'm not going to customize my page that much, just curious. — kwami (talk) 18:31, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

{{DISPLAYTITLE:<small>User:</small><span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif; color:#CC0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em">Σ</span>}} --Σ ^talk_contribs 06:57, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Passionate marriage

It's gone. Was unencyclopedic essay, so I deleted. Moriori (talk) 03:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Not sure it was speedy-deletable under A3, but I guess it was better for the encyclopedia that way. Thanks! --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 03:54, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Coal balls?

I wish you had a picture--I'd love to see it. Drmies (talk) 05:16, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Re:Gaalball

To be honest, at first look I was almost going to CSD it but I thought I'd give it a chance to be safe it was simply the writing style that was wrong. SwisterTwister talk 06:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Helloz

There ya have it. I have returned to discuss things of a discussing nature. Bassist DaTaco (talk) 09:39, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Bieber and Marx

Hey Σ - of course there's a connection! He isn't sure what political party he'd support if he was old enough to vote. "I'm not sure about the parties," Biebesays. "But whatever they have in Korea, that's bad." --Shirt58 (talk) 13:44, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Swissôtel Tallinn

How to move the old article "Swissôtel Tallinn, Estonia" to "Swissôtel Tallinn", which exists, impossible, where is the administrator please delete the article Swissôtel Tallinn (2007) and make from three articles "Swissôtel Tallinn, Estonia" to "Swissôtel Tallinn", Swissôtel Tallinn (2007) the ONE with the name "Swissôtel Tallinn", thanks, --PjotrMahh1 (talk) 00:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

{{adminhelp}} See above. Thanks. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 00:53, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll get it, one sec while I sort out the right ordering; I think the problem was an improper cut-and-paste move by the above user in July. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:30, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing the RFC Bot disaster

Something went gone terribly wrong with RFC Bot, and in its rampage Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/History_and_geography page was completely destroyed, and it wouldn't accept my reverts, reverting my attempts to fix it. Somehow, you were able to correct the problem, and I really appreciate it. Take this cookie as a symbol of my gratitude! NickDupree (talk) 03:41, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

It broke again. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 03:45, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Seems to be fixed now and you directly and indirectly made it happen. —NickDupree (talk) 06:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Nice prediction with expecting the article to be recreated (didn't see the first AFD since it didn't have the "!" on it). Inks.LWC (talk) 06:35, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 06:42, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

August 2011

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at User talk:EmausBot ([1]), you may be blocked from editing. If you disagree with this edit, you should go to the page Choosy Wives Choose Smith and move it back. Thank you! --Emaus (talk) 01:30, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

So hitting the wrong button a few times is sufficient bad faith vandalism to warrant a level 3 warning? --Σ ^talk_contribs 01:40, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

I just copied your message from bot's talk page. You can understand that it is not very pleasant to see of such incorrect warrants. --Emaus (talk) 10:44, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't choose the warning level. STiki does it automatically, and I've contacted User talk:West.andrew.g to ask him to remove edits with the bot userright. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 06:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok. Thank you! --Emaus (talk) 13:09, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome, I think. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 04:57, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Tu-95

Hi, I'm waiting for you to get your hand on the Tu-95 book, before we can start planning the re-write. Sp33dyphil ^{"Ad astra"} 07:00, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll read it tomorrow and start my work. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 07:26, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Talk page indentation

There actually is a written policy on talk page indentation. See WP:Indentation. It is common practice (although not necessarily required) to indent one colon from the comment you are replying to, not the comment directly above yours. Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:35, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Not a policy, but an essay. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 21:37, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank You!

Thank you for helping and resolving this problem, I tried my best to be a roll backer but I want to be one as soon as possible because, I watch most of the articles such as terrorism and crime and I watch those pages in order to avoid vandalism. I really want to be a rollbacker in terrorism topics. Please reply as soon as possible.--Mohamed Aden Ighe (talk) 20:43, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

One such topic is Communist terrorism. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:45, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

My suggestion: Stick with Twinkle. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 21:38, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

CC-BY?

Is it safe to assume that a document is under CC BY if it states that "The material in this publication may be reproduced if [publisher and authors] is acknowledged as the source"? How much attribution do I need to give? Is it then safe for me to copy and paste? Thanks in advance. --Σ ^talk_contribs 02:43, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

To the extent of my knowledge it is safe. To be safe I would include in-text attribution as well as a reference. I would also provide attribution in the edit summary. Ryan Vesey Review me! 02:57, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Not in my opinion because the statement is not clear enough. The statement does not confirm that commercial use or modifications are permitted, so one could interpret it as being one of several free or unfree CC licences. If a specific CC licence is not specified we should not assume anything not specifically stated. Try to contact the copyright holder and ask them to release the image under a free licence. ww2censor (talk) 16:01, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Not only is it not safe to assume, it is certain that this wording is not a CC-by license. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:45, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Certainly not CC. Possibly (and I mean very possibly) {{Attribution}}. –Drilnoth (T/C) 20:52, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

While this is not a CC license, I think using it should be fine. The copyright holder is clearly intending to allow the material to be used with a single condition (acknowledgement). I don't see a hidden "...if used non-commercially" any more than a hidden "...if you pay me a million bucks" in there. I think {{Copyrighted free use provided that|([publisher and authors] is acknowledged)}} would be fine. – Quadell ^(talk) 20:55, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

So if the aforementioned footnote were placed on a text document, are the attribution templates usable if I copied or closely paraphrased it? --Σ ^talk_contribs 22:41, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

If the text is released under a free license, then there are no legal problems with reusing the text, so long as it's properly attributed. However, we usually don't reuse text word-for-word on Wikipedia (or even a close paraphrase), because it almost always has problems with bias or an unencyclopedic tone. – Quadell ^(talk) 23:10, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Is an inline citation sufficient attribution, or do I need to use something like {{country study}}? --Σ ^talk_contribs 00:55, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

• I agree with ww2censor; our license requires that modification be permitted, and this statement doesn't say anything about it. :/ I don't think we can regard that as compatible. Certainly, it's not CC-By, which specifically permits "remixing" the work. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 19:22, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Copied thread from WP:MCQ for future reference. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 22:11, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Warning?

Why did you leave a message saying "Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself" when I didn't do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IBTSupporter (talk • contribs) 06:31, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

My mistake

About yesterday's account Tanushree Mukherjee (talk · contribs) that you reported, I made a mistake with that. After a suspicious account showed up today, Koel Mukherjee (talk · contribs), with nearly the exact same content, I did some more checking. The websites used as references are not even registered, so the articles are totally bogus. It looks like somebody is creating hoax articles about themselves. Anyways, I wanted to apologize for not taking more decisive action. I've blocked both accounts indefinitely, but I would not be at all surprised to see additional accounts show up over the next couple of days using that same last name. If you see any, please drop me a note and I will file an SPI report to see if we can block the underlying IP for longer than the autoblock. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:12, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Re your message: I try to cut SPA autobiographical accounts a break because usually they will go away after their article is deleted. However, occasionally I will get burned by somebody who really, really wants to get their made-up biography on Wikipedia (see Avinashkrishnadasa (talk · contribs), for instance). I remember 182.178.32.9 from your report. There was a different IP involved this time, 182.178.76.115, from the same ISP. It seems to be a rather large ISP, may be a /17, and who knows who else may be using it. Like I said, if you happen to run across another one in the next couple of days, leave me a note and I will follow-up on it. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:31, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

T:DEFCON listed at Redirects for discussion

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What the heck?!?!?!?!

Slow down on NewPages a bit and give some of the rest of us a chance!!!!! ;-) (ie: nice job on cleanup up all the detritus!!!) Best, ROBERTMFROMLI | ^TK/_CN 02:20, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

But it's my job! Also, I think Eeekster beat me to a tag just a few minutes ago.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Σ (talk • contribs) 02:32, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

LoL, true... I was going for that one too... I think I'm gonna take a coffee break. :-) ROBERTMFROMLI | ^TK/_CN 02:34, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Plant like things...

Hi Σ, I notice you've created a plant stub. In trying to salvage a new article I found on NewPages before someone who didnt recognize it was legitimate, I expanded this article a bit, added an taxobox, and surely mangled a lot of things (heck, even those fake plastic plants seem to die around me, so I know little about the topic at all). If you're bored and want to check out how badly I mangled it and fix whatever I screwed up, please feel free. Mostly, I'm worried about how I may have messed up the taxobox. I'll be getting back to the rest of it to expand it soon (but that darn box thingy I could definitely use some help with). Best, Rob ROBERTMFROMLI | ^TK/_CN 03:46, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I created the stub because I saw the picture and thought the mushroom might look good on my userpage. I really don't know much about fungi, as the taxobox was shamelessly plagiarised from Lactarius indigo and adapted. But I've cleaned up that article a bit. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 03:55, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Much thanks! -Rob ROBERTMFROMLI | ^TK/_CN 04:03, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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About babies listed at Redirects for discussion

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Speedy deletion of Mosaica Education

I removed your tag of Mosaica Education. The subject of the article appears to be notable and the article was not written in a way that was exclusively promotional. It does appear to be written by a person who may have a conflict of interest and may contain some puffery, but I don't believe the issues are things that cannot be handled without deleting the page. I am going to leave a note on the author's page asking about a conflict of interest and reminding the user to remember to use a neutral point of view. Ryan Vesey Review me! 02:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

I'm not actually sure what a stroopwafel is but it has a cool name so you get it for making me chuckle on Fluffernutter's talk page :D Pilif12p 14:55, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

User:NSDAPHakenkreuze1488

I'm trying to undo some of the damage this user has done with the "welcome" messages; AIV and UAA reports are set, but I'm trying to replace all the welcome messages he left with proper welcomes. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:21, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank Zscout370 for nuking his contributions. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 02:22, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Just noticed that myself. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:23, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

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Band football

CSD A7 was given. A form of an unremarkable organization or group. Vanadus (talk | contribs) 01:29, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Roberts list of greatest presidents

Hello Σ. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Roberts list of greatest presidents to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 08:42, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Is the USA exempt from the CSD criteria, then? It reads like an elementary school homework assignment which is 100% originally researched POV. The lofty glorification directed toward the various presidents and the tone that sounded like the USA was the only country that ever existed made me feel that it was enough to fall under G11 and WP:NOTPROMOTION. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 23:42, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

No, it's evidently written from a US-centred outlook where "President" means only one thing, but it's not really promoting the US, so it's not a G11 ("pages that are exclusively promotional"). It certainly has to go, but the reason is that it's original research and that's not a speedy reason - see WP:CSD#Non-criteria #3. JohnCD (talk) 19:24, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I think it's promoting the presidents. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 19:40, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Only some of them, now that the list is completed: "the many scandals in (Warren Harding's) Cabinet ruined his image and his legacy", "As a result of Wilson's policies... the US entered its shapest ever recession in 1920", and LBJ was "the WORST president of all time". JohnCD (talk) 19:49, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Hm, this is the first time I've seen a promotional attack page! Lowercase Sigma (talk) 20:44, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Does it count as being a promotion of a POV? --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 22:10, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Secret page barnstar

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Thanks. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 02:45, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Re:Nano technology

That's what I thought at first, but because there was a header titled "What is Nano Technology", I thought it was going to be advertising so I tagged it as G11. Oh well, SwisterTwister talk 05:17, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I saw that and the user was suspended for 48 hours for that violation.SwisterTwister talk 02:02, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

OMG

Jesus H. Christ!!! (sorry if you're a jew). How abusive from you, you disgusting pile of shit. STOP GOSSIPING AROUND, AND SUCKING MGIGANTEUS BALLS. --Rudolph Ripley (talk) 02:41, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

No. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 02:42, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Crush the Blacks

Hello Σ. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Crush the Blacks to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. Danger (talk) 03:18, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

If you don't mind, I'd rather skip the PROD and have it at AfD. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 03:20, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

(another) Barnstar for you!

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Really confused...

Hello Σ,

I was trying to get the source code of your userpage, but came across several stumbling blocks (that attempted to thwart vandals but, unfortunately, frustrated me too.)

1. Can you please give me the source code of your [transcluded] user page (not the source code of your actual userpage, but the code of the stuff transcluded onto it)? Found it... Samwb123^T-C-E 17:09, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
2. How in the world do you do that backwards thing on your user page? (You know what I'm talking about.) Do you use Cyrillic characters or something?

Thanks for your time.

Sincerely confused, Samwb123^T-C-E 17:06, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

There is a special character that puts the text in "right-to-left" mode. You can find it on my userpage or User:Misza13/Categories -- it is the only character that doesn't show up, and you can copy it from there. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 18:10, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

In regards to the "warning" you issued.

Something about verbally attacking another editor?

I think I said "This article reads like a TVTropes Article. Just so you folks know."

Either you're being sarcastic, or wikipedia editors have the thinnest skin ever. I say this because I made a statement of mild opinion, not an "attack" against another person. Perhaps it was deadpan, but I believe that it was justified, given that the discussion section was filled with comments to the tune of "let's fill the article up with obscure references to our favourite television show characters!".

I don't always contribute to a community, but when I do, it's because I'm certain that what I'm saying is at the very least non-hostile.

But don't let me get in the way of your moderating of Wikipedia. Yours is an incredibly important, irreplaceable job.

Sincerely, 99.236.253.4 (talk) 17:57, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

This should suffice. Remember, if this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make that edit, create your own account to avoid other irrelevant notices. Thanks, --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 18:07, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

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Consent of Avikkottai

I totally agree but the article doesn't have any sources and seems un notable RDN1F (talk) 18:42, 28 August 2011 (UTC). I've also replied about Summer Eleven. RDN1F (talk) 18:42, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

A bunny for you!

A nice bunny.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:48, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 00:54, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Test edit

As requested. 114.36.52.51 (talk) 02:12, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, I have read your message and I deleted the e-mail because I had a full inbox, I will re-email them and I will send it, Is this OK Sigma?? Macedonia (talk) 06:50, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

I dunno what for

	An Ecky for you!
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Conversation you might be interest in

See Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Shorter message when contesting deletion.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:40, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Coal ball

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 07:48, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Phase 2 is complete. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 07:49, 31 August 2011 (UTC)