User talk:Aleenf1/Archive 7
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YOG badminton error
Hi Aleen. Any chance you could follow up on Talk:2010_Summer_Youth_Olympics#Inaccuracy, as it concerns badminton events (& I think others)?
I'm busy today, but may be able to help a bit in 10 hours or so. Cheers, T9. Trafford09 (talk) 07:48, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Reverts
Hiya. This edit made me think of Wikipedia:Revert#Explain_reverts. :) Best, Trafford09 (talk) 11:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Talk:The Devil's Panties
Hi, I have now restored The Devil's Panties, the talk page was requesting the article back, and it was only a prod, so it was a valid request. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:24, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
F1 Simulators Revealed
Asian Games
Hi ! Why did you revert all my edits at the Asian Games page ? The list of countries is very useful, like the sports list. Thanks. Bouboudiou (talk) 19:49, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
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Altered speedy deletion rationale: Talk:Peter out
Hello Aleenf1. I am just letting you know that I deleted Talk:Peter out, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. Wifione ....... Leave a message 17:07, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
SI units in badminton
I see you reverted my edit in the badminton article. Can you explain why? All other units in the article are in standard units, but in the section 'Strings' lbf and Newton are mixed, which does not make sense. Nicob1984 (talk) 12:41, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- I don't see why you should called-off a conversion, which is according to the references and allow in WP:UNITS. --Aleenf1 13:23, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- Badminton is not a country specific article so it should use the units in the most widespread use in the world, which is N for forces. Also an article should be consistent and use the same units everywhere, see WP:UNITS. So here we should use 80 N (18 lbf) and not 18 lbf (80 N) and definitely not a mix of them.Nicob1984 (talk) 08:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Hockey at the Commonwealth Games
I think we should have the overall medal table to be consistent with other hockey articles at multisport events (Field hockey at the Summer Olympics) and Commonwealth games pages (Rugby sevens at the Commonwealth Games), I know not all other hockey and Commonwealth games pages have them but they should. --sss333 (talk) 00:08, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- I don't get it. Article already have separate medal table. Summer Olympics and Rugby sevens consists only ONE medal table without any extra medal table for men and women. So to be no database waste, the best is not adding it. --Aleenf1 00:24, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- I don't really see what's wrong with both, its not really waste since they both provide different infomation and I think for a Commonwealth Games page it should have the full table so if I had to choose I'd go with the one medal table.--sss333 (talk) 08:22, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Is that worth? and how different? I don't see that. --Aleenf1 15:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- I don't really see what's wrong with both, its not really waste since they both provide different infomation and I think for a Commonwealth Games page it should have the full table so if I had to choose I'd go with the one medal table.--sss333 (talk) 08:22, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
accused of sockpuppetry
hi afleen, an editor japel has accused me of this because he thinks I use my username inspector123 pretending to be different person, most of the time I edit from my ISP adress which happens to be different sometimes, never have I pretended to be different people when using my account or editing from ISP anonymously, let me know what to do against this person who himself has been accused of sockpuppetry as Zaps93 and I am 100% sure last month he was editing using a new account made up of his ISP address 124x22..... , all the while his Jaspel account has remained inactive since March and now hes using it again. I dont log-in because its not required in unlocked articles, I only created inspector123 account to edit protected articles, all of my edits are based on factually correct information and yet hes undoing them calling it vandalism, please report him to admin as I dont know how, thanks.119.155.37.2 (talk) 15:08, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- I strongly advise to use your own account to edit rather than using IP address, as weather it is a protected article or not., using both ways could be treat as sockpuppetry too. You don't want that happen. --Aleenf1 15:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks I will do that from now on, just feel so lazy to log-in all the time.inspector (talk) 11:08, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Are you certain this should be deleted as a test page? The reason I ask is because those references look like they could be useful. Perhaps they can be salvaged.. -- Ϫ 23:02, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- I have declined the speedy - it's manifestly not a test page. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 01:30, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Dont question my sources, this source was exactly right for the 2010 Commonwealth Games, and is the final list to depart for China. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Password1125 (talk • contribs) 15:57, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Aleen please dont question it, on the website it listed 94 athletes for Delhi, which was correct, know it lists 138 for 2010 asian games. So since this is the offical committee website it is a reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Password1125 (talk • contribs) 16:33, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I have a problem with editing!? Hello incase you have not noticed I contributed a lot to this website, with facts not fantasy. You will look like an idiot when the offical number comes in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Password1125 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 5 November 2010
2010 Asian Games
North and South Korea's official names in Asian Games and Olympic Games are DPK Korea and Korea respectively. It is desirable to use the officially recognized names here. You can see the evidence here at the official website of 2010 Asian Games at http://www.gz2010.cn/info/ENG_ENG/ZZ/ZZM195A_@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ENG.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bkinght5 (talk • contribs) 08:34, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm refer to WP:Common name. --Aleenf1 08:37, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Korea and DPR Korea
Korea is also a common name. And DPR Korea is also a common name. In addition, they are official names for Asian Games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.59.215.173 (talk) 13:45, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
I've reverted your change because of the following reasons:
- A featured list no longer starts with "The 2010 Asian Games medal table is a list of ..."
- Symbol and color are necessary when denoting something in the table
- The medal table link is a general reference and should not be an external link
- The reflist template should not be set into 3 columns because some browsers cannot render that properly
—Chris!c/t 20:33, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Please do not revert without a good reason. 2008 Summer Olympics medal table was promoted to FL several years ago and it doesn't reflect the current standard. Also, the colspan you added at the table destroyed the sorting function.—Chris!c/t 23:54, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Please assume good faith. I am talking about the FL standard, not mine. Your combative attitude is extremely unhelpful.—Chris!c/t 23:58, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Like I said, 2008 Summer Olympics medal table was promoted to FL several years ago and it no longer reflects the current standard. Don't want to sound OWNish, but I will defend my editing per the reasons given above.—Chris!c/t 04:43, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Please assume good faith. I am talking about the FL standard, not mine. Your combative attitude is extremely unhelpful.—Chris!c/t 23:58, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Portal boxes go in the 'See also' section
Hi Aleen (long time no chat!). Just wanted to point something out for you re this edit. Portal boxes belong in the 'See also' section - as per Wikipedia:Portal#How_to_add_portal_links_to_articles. It doesn't matter whether the section is otherwise empty. Cheers, Trafford09 (talk) 06:25, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
So?
You said "especially only people from Japan response to it" And also from South Korea. See, it is noticeable just because not only the Japanese have this issue, South Koreans also have it. Who's the judge here? Komitsuki (talk) 11:51, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
I moved my edit to another article (Kota Mizunuma). Will now this be ok? Sometimes, heavy contributors of Wikipedia shouldn't see everything in black and white (黑白). There's always a middle path. Komitsuki (talk) 12:24, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Ok. I took your advice. I have my limits in sports-related articles. Please check the Official Ball section in the Football at the 2010 Asian Games and you can fix it. Is every now in peace? Komitsuki (talk) 12:57, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Ok. Thank you that both of us reached an agreement. Komitsuki (talk) 06:01, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Re:markup
Hey, the ''' works the same way as the full ''''''... And since it has been done for Tennis tournaments i thought it would be also good for the BWF tournament(s). Kante4 (talk) 16:39, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
2011 Asian Winter Games
Please do not change the format of the article, all multi sporting events are formatted like that. Intoronto1125 (talk) 18:23, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- Disagree, the list did not officially reveal by organisers, which this is "guess list", you use the third party which verifiability are questionable. In addition, number of athletes provided are not eventually numbers of the NOCs. So, hide until official list reveal will be very better. --Aleenf1 23:16, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- The list of athletes competing by nation has been released by the media of some of these countries, and are right because they are credible sources. And this "In addition, number of athletes provided are not eventually numbers of the NOCs" does not make any sense. Intoronto1125 (talk) 03:16, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- I recommend you to read through the sources, 27 NOCs, somehow you make a guess list by using unqualified sources. Also, the exact number of athletes participating did not ultimately reveal by NOC, it reveal the figure skater participants, partially number. That is not going to add into tally. Like Philippines, it only reveal Fil-Am skaters rather than eventual number. Wait until the formal list will not costing you.
- Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at 2011 Asian Winter Games. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.
- I recommend you to read through the sources, 27 NOCs, somehow you make a guess list by using unqualified sources. Also, the exact number of athletes participating did not ultimately reveal by NOC, it reveal the figure skater participants, partially number. That is not going to add into tally. Like Philippines, it only reveal Fil-Am skaters rather than eventual number. Wait until the formal list will not costing you.
- The list of athletes competing by nation has been released by the media of some of these countries, and are right because they are credible sources. And this "In addition, number of athletes provided are not eventually numbers of the NOCs" does not make any sense. Intoronto1125 (talk) 03:16, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Intoronto1125 (talk) 15:48, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
I had to put this template as you are not folloowing the way wikipedia does multi sporting events. Take for example the 2010 winter olympics and the 2010 commonwealth games, the athlete totals were put on the article as soon as the media would report it, as well changes would be made if needed later. Secondly, all multi sporting events come with the pictograms for each sport and you continue to remove it from the article please stop. Thirdly, the number of events by sport is listed and the schedule of the games is given you can look at any multi sporting event on wikipedia and you will see it there. Finally, your edits have really poor spelling and grammar and thus is unconstructive to the article. Intoronto1125 (talk) 15:49, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at 2011 Asian Winter Games, you may be blocked from editing. Intoronto1125 (talk) 15:53, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at 2011 Asian Winter Games, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Intoronto1125 (talk) 15:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Administrative Noticeboards
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- Nonsense and more nonsense, i don't get and i don't feed. Whatever. --Aleenf1 16:49, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well you called me a troll and that is a personal attack. Intoronto1125 (talk) 17:23, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Accusing
Why are you accusing me of a personal attack, when it clearly was not me? Intoronto1125 (talk) 01:12, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- How was it clearly not you? Your username is "Intoronto", and the IP is a static connection registered to...Toronto. WP:DUCK. I suggest an SPI. Keegan (talk) 01:16, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
2011 Asian Winter Games
Aleenf1, I just wanted to aplogize for this editing war we are in the middle of. It brought out the nasty side of us 2. I look forward to why you think that page should be formatted that way and I will repsond after you have. We will then both come to a consensus on how to do it. Again I am sorry if I offended you or you thought I was rude. Intoronto1125 (talk) 20:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ok have it your own way. If you have not read what I wrote, you continue to edit with the wrong format. If you leave the countries there and the sports with the number of events and pictograms I am fine with that, but if you remove it obviosuly I have an issue and will revert it back. Secondly, I didn't mean to offend you when it comes to the English issue, but this is the English version of wikipedia and editing with bad grammar is simply not going to fly. Intoronto1125 (talk) 01:19, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- You need to look up the definition of complaning, because I am not the one doing it but rather you are. How can wikipedia be successful if the grammar is bad? If I were you I would look at editing the wikipedia version of your language. Intoronto1125 (talk) 17:47, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- If you cannot speak at all, but you could edit the page with perfect grammar that is still perfect. My issue is that if you cannot use proper grammar, then do not edit the page. Intoronto1125 (talk) 18:38, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Aleenf1, Intoronto has made an effort to apologise and try and resolve the civility issues between the two of you. You have both wasted enough time reporting each other to various boards without result. Intoronto has offered an olive branch. Please accept it and try and make a fresh start and work co-operatively together. Fainites barleyscribs 00:00, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
You need to provide a reference for this. It looks like England may be the nominated association representing "Great Britain" in the qualifying competition, but I can't see anything about the actual 2012 team being only made up of English players. 81.142.107.230 (talk) 14:25, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- You missed one point in this official document released by FIH, http://www.fihockey.org/vsite/vfile/page/fileurl/0,11040,1181-203627-220850-169536-0-file,00.pdf, which clearly stated that England are nominated to represent GB. Sorry, i have to make the move. --Aleenf1 15:00, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- No, I don't think you're reading that right - the wording is a bit confusing, but it is referring to the fact that England Hockey are officially in charge of the GB Olympic team, not the makeup of the team itself. England are "designated to represent Great Britain" - not "represent" in a playing sense, but in an administrative sense.
- From the England Hockey website:
- Great Britain Hockey is the body responsible for the development and administration of hockey in Great Britain related to the Olympic Games. This role includes the preparation, selection and performance of the men's and women's Great Britain hockey squads and their participation in the Olympic Games and other relevant competitions and tournaments. Ultimately, it is the body charged with delivering Olympic success for the sport of hockey.
- The England Hockey Board is currently the 'nominated country'. The nominated country has full and complete responsibility to lead the delivery of the Great Britain hockey teams' business operations and performance objectives, to qualify Great Britain hockey teams for the Olympic Games and to ensure the ‘primacy’ of Great Britain Hockey to the extent within its control and in the manner specified in the Agreement.
- The other member associations (currently Wales and Scotland) have agreed to assist the nominated country in the performance of its obligations.
- and:
- “It’s fantastic to be able to work with LOCOG and with the teamwork being shown by England, Scotland and Wales in offering this to fans across the length and breadth of the country, it is a great example of British collaboration even before our teams step onto the pitch.”
- and from [1]:
- Mantell said being able to play as Great Britain two years ahead of the Olympic Games is a bonus to their preparations.
- "Normally we would just play as England up until 2011, so the fact that we are starting now is fantastic and getting some game exposure as GB rather than just as England is great for our prospects.
- "It's good to have that extra input from the other home nations - it definitely adds to the squad, increases healthy competition within the squad, always pushes us forward."
- I don't know how you can read that any other way than the GB team being a combined team, as it has always been at the Olympics. 81.142.107.230 (talk) 16:24, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
2011 Asian Winter Games Calendar
Why don't you go see some examples before telling me too, because it looks like you have not. For example, the 2010 Winter Olympics have the "ceremonies" part of the calendar centralized. "how many times i want to say this" You can say that as much times as you want, because that is refering to you not me. Intoronto1125 (talk) 03:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning
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Category talk:Taiwanese badminton players / RFC
Could you please look there - what is your opinion? --Florentyna (talk) 17:11, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
2011 Asian Winter Games Calendar
Instead of calling me a hypocrite why don't you use your eyes and check other multi sporting events to see if the word "ceremonies" is centralized. Intoronto1125 (talk) 23:29, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
February 2011
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Template:2012 Summer Olympics calendarTemplate:2011 Asian Winter Games calendar Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue.
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Aleenf1
Hey the word ceremonies is in the central on the 2012 Summer Olympics calendar so open your eyes. Intoronto1125 (talk) 21:49, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- You don't make any sense. Thats all i got to say. Intoronto1125 (talk) 02:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- You really don't understand what centralized mean. ALL CALENDARS I MEAN EVERY SINGLE ONE HAS THE WORD CEREMONIES CENTRALIZED. Intoronto1125 (talk) 13:42, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Is that enough for you? Intoronto1125 (talk) 18:19, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
WP:HOUND by User:Aleenf1
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- Ok, both of you: disengage now. This is not productive. Get back to editing articles, and if there is another disagreement, bring it to the project page. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:43, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
2012 SUmmer Olympics
I am going to format the events how all other Olympics/Pan American Games/Asian Games are formatted so please do not be offended. [15],[16], [17], [18], [19] etc. Intoronto1125 (talk) 16:43, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- I am not kind of getting you, but I meant I don't mean to offend you, meaning please do not take this personally. Intoronto1125 (talk) 17:52, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- I don't understand what you are trying to tell me sorry. Intoronto1125 (talk) 02:20, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Please stop reverting edits on my talk page. I am thinking you are the one who needs to read Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines "Simply deleting others' comments on your talk page is permitted". Intoronto1125 (talk) 12:53, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Besides if you are angry at the grammar comment, I was not aware you were the one who had the edit there, it was a general comment. Intoronto1125 (talk) 13:09, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well keep up the good work. Intoronto1125 (talk) 13:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Besides if you are angry at the grammar comment, I was not aware you were the one who had the edit there, it was a general comment. Intoronto1125 (talk) 13:09, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Please stop reverting edits on my talk page. I am thinking you are the one who needs to read Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines "Simply deleting others' comments on your talk page is permitted". Intoronto1125 (talk) 12:53, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- I don't understand what you are trying to tell me sorry. Intoronto1125 (talk) 02:20, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
2011 Chinese Grand Prix
For future reference - don't add qualifying results piecemeal - add all of it in one go. A wikiepdia article should be completely readable at any point in its existance, and never have huge slabs of blank spaces pending events still underway. --Falcadore (talk) 07:13, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Re. LCW's achievement table
Hi, the minor changes might not be necessary but I do think it improves the appearance of the table. Currently there is quite a wide column simply to specify 1 or 2. I got the idea from Lee Yong-dae's page as well as a bloke called Federer's. Will you let me change it back please, I intend to make tables for other players using the same template. Nines11 (talk) 17:26, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
If I say that the "fact" that is put up is based only on what the Chinese press says, and that this "fact" is easily disputable (Roslin Hashim only was no.1 for two weeks without winning any title, isn't he weaker? Wong Choong Hann was number one for days, as was Rashid Sidek. They never won titles. They are not weak?). I am not trying to defend LCW. I am trying to present two sides to your statement. If you have a problem with that, maybe you are the one with a "censorship" problem with only wanting to present one view and sticking by that one narrow definition. Hope you understand. I am not trying to argue with you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faltasian (talk • contribs) 04:54, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
I do not understand
I did not understand what you said on my talk page sorry. I will however not engage in an edit war. Intoronto1125TalkContributions 18:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Field Hockey
Aleenf1, the templates are there instead of tables, because it is easier to update the template once, instead of doing it more then once. For example, on Canada's page we have the template as well. Therefore we can update many pages at once. Intoronto1125TalkContributions 16:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Re.
What do you mean about TAR18? According to spoilers, even though they can't be used here as sources (but are usually right) the teams are headed to Lombok, which has an airport. Intoronto1125TalkContributions 16:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe, because the destination is clearly listed, like "Vienna", unlike "Bali", which an island. Intoronto1125TalkContributions 16:31, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- There is more then 1 airport in Bali! Intoronto1125TalkContributions 16:42, 4 May 2011 (UTC)