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DYK for Toklu Dede Mosque

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 16:03, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ese Kapi Mosque

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DYK for Balaban Aga Mosque

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Istanbul up for peer review

The Istanbul article is up for a peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/Istanbul/archive1 and I thought you might be interested in providing some feedback. Feel free to do so when you get a chance. -- tariqabjotu 05:19, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ese Kapi Mosque

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DYK for Arslan Hane, Istanbul

Yngvadottir (talk) 16:03, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks: not Vandalism (intentionala)

Thanks for catching my error. It was an accidental error that happened when I was falling asleep! Didn't realize my mind was disoriented before I saved. Anyway, replaced it with what I meant to say and improved it more. Thanks! Mistakefinder (talk) 08:35, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

"Metropolitan Municipality"

On the largest city propers page, the city proper of Istanbul is defined as the total metropolitan municipality, which measures 5,343 square kilometers in area. I'm not sure where you've gotten the 1,800 square kilometer meter number for. --Criticalthinker (talk) 01:43, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Does the Istanbul metropolitan government have it's own definition of what it's "city proper" is? If you're going to change the definition of the city proper from that of the metropolitan municipality, than you can't just change the size, but also the population figure. That said, you probably shouldn't change anything. The rule on that page seems to be that if the local authorities don't define a "city proper" than the city proper is whatever the administrative area of the city/province is. --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:35, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't think you understood. There is no way that both the province and the city proper both have a population of 13.4 million. What is the population of the province and what is the population of the city proper? If Istanbul does not have a city proper as defined by Turkey's statistics agency/census, than it doesn't need to be included on the list. --Criticalthinker (talk) 12:17, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I guess we'll have to disagree a bit, then. While the term "city proper" isn't as clearly defined as any of us would like, I don't think anyone is applying an "American" defintion to it, or a definition from any other part of the world. Generally, everyone believes that a city is a mostly contiguous, settled/developed area with an associated local government. Now, there will be differences from country to county, but not so large that we should be able to put together a fairly good list of city propers. BTW, kind of off subject, but on the page of Istanbul Province there is subsection labeled "cities" which lists a group of settlements within Istanbul Province. Are these "cities" simply urban areas as defined by Turkey's statistical agency, or are they a grouping of districts? What's the difference between the term "city" and "district" in Turkey? --Criticalthinker (talk) 00:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for that explanation. That sounds like an interesting project for someone familiar with Turkey to do. That is, to find the "urban" municipalities (belediye) Istanbul (the ones where the municipality is coterminous with the district (ilçe)), and then sum up their population and land area to find the "city proper" population. --Criticalthinker (talk) 03:07, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Istanbul at FAC

Hello again. I just wanted to let you know, in case you were interested, that Istanbul has now been nominated for featured status. Feel free to participate in the discussion regarding its suitability at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Istanbul/archive1. -- tariqabjotu 22:20, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Baklava

Hi Alessandro, I see you are also an editor in Baklava and reverted my edit. I wanted to discuss with you certain aspects of the article. Although the passage is referenced, the passage "there is strong evidence of Turkic origin" is simply not true. The writer, Perry first says that it is both claimed by Greeks and Turks, and then simply takes the side of the Turks. After pointing to the Greek claim, he says on this reference: "The Turkish claim, by contrast, can produce very suggestive evidence that the Nomadic Turks were making layered dough products as early as the 11th century." As you see, this is actually just a claim about layering dough. Later Perry admits: "I have speculated that the nomadic Turkish nations experimented with layering in order to vary a boring diet of thin breads, but it may be that they loved layering for its own sake." As you see, he admits to speculation with no solid proof, and yet we are only at the layering stage of dough. In fact if you check the pasta page layering dough has been known in the Mediterranean since the 5th century following the cited source for lasagna. My concern here is that this article is simply not neutral when many cultures claim baklava and we start with a questionable statement and incorrect interpretation of a cited source. I would like to write a better history section in this case, one that does not conclude the origin, but states both sides of the argument. I'll address this later, meanwhile you can tell me what you think. Regards Thinkfood (talk) 08:38, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Ethnic/confessional groups

Regarding your recent change at Istanbul, the source seems to be very explicit about ethnic groups being used. It's in Çelik 1993, p. 44 (search for "ethnic" to get to the Preview of that particular page. -- tariqabjotu 07:22, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

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Dessert (pospasto) de cara tostada

	Fırında sütlaç (Tr Rice pudding, cotto! :-)
	Enjoy it. E4024 (talk) 11:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Why didn't you tell me you understand Turkish? (I think your wife is Turkish, right? Tell her we have the same favourite in desserts and add my regards. Trying to write something in Italian I began in English, continued in Portugese and ended in Spanish! :-) All the best and selamlar. --E4024 (talk) 12:28, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Baklava

I've removed it again. I understand what you are saying, but you need to look at the context - not only is it not possible to find this in Dalby's book via Amazon, not only does it not provide a page number, but it is clear that the other book was misrepresented. You shouldn't be adding a reference (which you did by replacing it) in a situation like this until you can check it. Your library should be able to get this for you to check it. Dougweller (talk) 09:16, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, that was certainly a great surprise! Did you contact him? Glad to see this is settled. Dougweller (talk) 11:26, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

(TPS) I wrote some notes on Baklava in my Talk Page, nothing controversial... :-) --E4024 (talk) 20:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Microwaves

Hello Alessandro! I left some information for you to review on the talk page of the mobile phone and health article. --Drfrankv (talk) 17:36, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

English source, please

Can you please replace this with an English-language source since this is, you know, the English Wikipedia? Alternatively, a Turkish source would work, but I don't understand why something would be in German, but neither English nor Turkish. -- tariqabjotu 17:21, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Mamma mia

Alex, you may be our "enişte" but you did learn even a traditional sort of baklava, like kaymaklı, here in WP! I guess your wife takes measures not to have a "fat" Italian; as all Istanbullu girls dream of one, but a slim one. (BTW this weekend I will be eating real Italian pasta in an Italian speaking country, guess which one. Not Vatican :-) As regards your talk in "Turkey", you are a bit confused about Georgia. You remember, it is under military threats from Russia, not Russian influence. Turkey and Georgia share an airport (Hopa-Batum) and just like between Turkey and the TRNC an Identity Card is enough to pass from one country to the other. I am sure you must have heard all the Baku-Tiflis (Tbilisi) - Turkey gas and other ties, including the new railway that will unite Azerbaijan with the rest of the world, including its exclave Nakhchivan. Ciao. --E4024 (talk) 08:24, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Food talk continued

The Italians never poisoned me and I doubt they ever will. :-) What sometimes disturbes me is when you eat boiled seafood in Italy you may feel the sand in shells, and that is not nice. So I prefer mostly to avoid those things and go for pasta and risotto, in their motherland. (Maybe you can e-mail me some trattoria recommendations; but do not do it here. I would be afraid of not being able to find tables due to IP crowd... :-) --E4024 (talk) 10:41, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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Cato's cake

Hi, Alex, I'm really sorry not have replied before to your nice note on my talk page! And I am very happy (I might say also, a bit relieved) to know that your Catonian placenta was admired and enjoyed.

As you may realise, I was not the practical cook in The Classical Cookbook: that was Sally Grainger. I have just published The Shakespeare Cookbook (whose anniversary is it this year? Yes, that's right). This book, too, is with British Museum Press, and this time the practical co-author is my wife Maureen. So if you're ever looking for a recipe for "Farts of Portingale", you now know where to start. All the best -- Andrew Dalby 12:07, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

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RAI

I happened to find a RAI channel that gives films with subtitles. I have been watching those lately. (Last night it was one on the late Pope J.P. I) Soon I will be writing to you in Italian. Aspetta un po, per favore... :-) Hoșçakal. --E4024 (talk) 14:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)--E4024 (talk) 14:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC) P.D. E-mail fixed.

Un Cavaliero

Bakıyorum da Turchia maddesini bir șövalye gibi savunuyorsun; teșekkürler. I am sending you a plate of Kaymaklı Ekmek Kadayıfı. Ciao. --E4024 (talk) 14:13, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

(Alzheimer? :-) That is normal; you take care of other bad effects of too much sugar. I wouldn't like to see our enişte on the news for bunga bunga parties... :-) --E4024 (talk) 12:56, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Raymond Janin

Howdy. Not doubting the veracity of the information you've added to this article, but can you provide a citation/reference for your changes please? Ta. - TB (talk) 11:16, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Kazakhstan

You are right [1]. It was my mistake. Thanks for your edit and reverting my mistake. Zheek (talk) 13:36, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Roman Italy

First of all, Italy was not just a name, but an administrative division of the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire (see Italy (Roman Empire)). The image represents the annexation of the territories to Rome. As you can see, in the third century BC Rome included the central part of the peninsula, while Calabria was added, together with Apulia and Lucania, in the fifth century BC. The name "Italy" is another matter. --Enok (talk) 10:18, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I understand now. The image mixes administrative changes with the evolution of the name "Italy". Under Caesar, for example, Northern Italy was called Cisalpine Gaul. --Enok (talk) 10:35, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Turchia

Eyvah! If you sit, read and eat that much... :-) --E4024 (talk) 12:46, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Man, let's do the chat either on your page or on mine, not divided like this. Those who wish to follow the conversation get tired... --E4024 (talk) 13:48, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Amastrianum

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From Galata with love

I know where you are, until Monday. I sent you something sympathetic and received an automated answer that you were in Constant-whaaaaat?! :-) Enjoy it; although it is too early for a lueferaki on the grill. Yengeye selam... --E4024 (talk) 18:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Not written with a good English

And has some typing errors but this text on Turco-Italian relations may be of help to you on some historical issues. Benvenuto. --E4024 (talk) 17:29, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

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DYK

Apologies, but you seem to have been under a mis-conception in your comment - an article being of GA status would be optional, not compulsory.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 18:41, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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NorthKarpathos

Dear Alessandro57 , my name is Nikos Mastromihalis. I 'am from Karpathos , live in Athens-Peiraias. Before 2 days i have edit the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpathos and i have add a link to www.northkarpathos.com .My IP for this is 91.132.115.142 i have a static IP. Today i have create a account Northkarpathos in wikipaedia , i have add again the link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpathos , and you have delete again. Please go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpathos and add my link. If your ARGUMENT , it's that my link it's to a commercial link , i can so you 10^6 site in wiki that have links to commercials site.

Have a nice Day Nikos Mstromihalis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Northkarpathos (talk • contribs) 15:28, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Fermi

Hallo, I answered in Talk Italian American. --Civa61 (talk) 12:08, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Ciao, ti scrivo in italiano visto che sei madrelingua. Che Fermi fece parte dell'Accademia d'Italia, tra i primi 30 membri scelti nel 1929 direttamente da Mussolini (anzi fu il più giovane) lo puoi leggere nel sito ufficiale dell'Accademia dei lincei, che io ho linkato. Per quanto riguarda l'iscrizione al partito fascista, in proposito ti linko l'articolo del corriere della sera dello storico Paolo Mieli. Non si cancellano le notizie che non piacciono su wiki. [2]. --Civa61 (talk) 17:02, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

I primi accademici nominati con Decreto del presidente del Consiglio dei Ministri Benito Mussolini del 18 marzo 1929, furono: Antonio Beltramelli, Pietro Bonfante, Filippo Bottazzi, Armando Brasini, Pietro Canonica, Francesco Coppola, Giotto Dainelli, Salvatore Di Giacomo, Enrico Fermi, Carlo Formichi, Umberto Giordano, Alessandro Luzio, Antonio Mancini, Filippo Tommaso Marinetti, Pietro Mascagni, Francesco Orestano, Alfredo Panzini, Nicola Parravano, Marcello Piacentini, Luigi Pirandello, Pietro Romualdo Pirotta, Ettore Romagnoli, Giulio Aristide Sartorio, Francesco Severi, Bonaldo Stringher, Alfredo Trombetti, Giancarlo Vallauri, Gioacchino Volpe e Adolfo Wildt. --Civa61 (talk) 18:51, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Scusa, avevo dimenticato il link (vedi pagina XXXIX [3]). --Civa61 (talk) 19:42, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Ottoman Empire

I know about that policy and various other such as WP:Summary style, which mandates that any article should include a short summary of the topics it will be linking. In this specific article, it's the history section that requires trimming, not the one about culture, surely, as it's exceedingly short already. The previous revision of the article included no contents whatsoever about literature nor visual arts, which I'm sure you will agree is inappropriate for a section that should be devoted to the culture of the Ottoman Empire. Just like an article about Italy would require at least a short mention of Dante, Petrarca or Manzoni, this article should include at least the names of the most important Ottoman poets and writers, such as Nedim or Imadaddin Nasimi. Isn't that appropriate in your opinion?--eh bien mon prince (talk) 13:28, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

By the way, in case you doubt my commitment to keeping the article's size in check, I can point out that it used to be 30kb bigger before this edit of mine. :-)--eh bien mon prince (talk) 13:35, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Even for a web encyclopedia, I find it wholly inappropriate that the "culture" section is devoid of any content about literature or arts. I can try to limit the file size of the article to 120kb (the same as in your last edit) as a compromise. Is that okay with you?--eh bien mon prince (talk) 13:39, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

That's okay, I prefer discussing to reverting anyway, especially when I meet a reasonable editor like you! ;-)--eh bien mon prince (talk) 13:43, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Beyoğlu

Alex, would you help me to convert the Beyoğlu article to an Istanbul Beyoğlu page, instead of a Venetian history tale? (I know you are from Rome, that will make you feel good... :-) Ciao. --E4024 (talk) 23:06, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Istanbul, amore mio

Alex, there is a very nice collage proposed for Istanbul; come say your opinion. (Don't let me misguide you!.. :-) Ciao. --E4024 (talk) 20:43, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

To clarify, there is a new collage proposed to replace the previous collage, simply as that; the question is about which you prefer. -- tariqabjotu 21:14, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Yep, don't feel you're caught between due amori; just say which one you like more... --E4024 (talk) 21:41, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

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North Cyprus Page - Edit Request - Kulaksiz 5 Case Section & Economy Section

Dear Alessandro 57,

Thank you for your recent comments on my Edit Request for North Cyprus page. It seems clear that the text that I recommended needs to by shortened, as it is 'over weight'.

I am more than happy to shorten it, but I am having some problem in doing so, as I am not sure what my "target" number of words or size of text is.

I have inserted the word file which includes both my original text, and then my 'references and consensus' additional request. Please do not think I am 'work-shy', I'm definitely not. However, I thought you may want to take a look, as perhaps condensing comes much easier to you, on the basis the Wiki language of every day country pages still isn't fixed in my mind.

Should you have any ideas or suggestions on condensing, or should you wish to have a go at cropping it, I would be grateful. It may save a lot of toing and froing as well.

I appreciate any time you can spare on the matter.

Kind regards

ToZero

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Kadıköy

Alex, when I saw (-1) in history I thought you corrected "Kadiköy". Correct it man, I cannot change your talk. Un abraccio. --E4024 (talk) 12:22, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Kadıköy, Kadıköy, Kadıköy... :-) --E4024 (talk) 13:31, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Imagine

Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people living for today

Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people living life in peace

You, you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one I hope some day you'll join us And the world will be as one

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North Cyprus Article - You gave support on the North Cyprus Talk Page

Dear Alessandro57,

You gave support and encouragement for additional information to be added to the North Cyprus Page along with 2 other editors.

All of you wished to see the recommended information cut down to weight.

I have trimmed as much as I can without losing the main messages. Here is the recommended addition in a much shorter form:

Construction boom and subsequent collapse (2003-2006)

In 2003 and 2004, intensive marketing in the UK, in conjunction with the prospect of the Annan Plan awaiting ratification, prompted an unprecedented construction boom and influx of foreign homebuyers and Expatriats. The property sector boom had an unparalleled effect on the North Cyprus economy, lifting agricultural workers into the service industries, lifting wages, creating wealth in all sectors and across all socio-economic classes. However, towards the end of 2006, the Foreign Home Buying/ Construction began a rapid decline as it became apparent to the majority of homebuyers and Expats like that titled deeds were not being delivered as per their contracts. The British High Commission posted warnings on their website, highlighting the potential dangers of buying property in North Cyprus to prospective buyers. As events unfolded the problems facing the foreign home buying tourism industry could be split into 3 catagories:

1. Stealth MortgagesBold text (named as such as the homebuyers they affected were never informed that mortgages were placed on their site after they purchased) were registered by unscrupulous banks on residential sites where homes had already been contractually sold to foreign home-buyers. Thousands of buyers complained they had paid the sale price of their properties but had not received their title deeds due to slow administration processes. Mortgages however, were often granted with full notice to the bank of the existing pre-sold villas, and a number of Turkish Cypriot banks (Akfinans Bank, Universal Bank, Near East Bank, Vakiflar Bank, Limassol Bank and CO-OP bank) had registered their interest at the land registry in Kyrenia, having declared the collateral as "bare-land", and neglecting to mention the pre-sold villas. The most famous case involving 17 elderly British Expatriats, is the Kulaksiz 5 Case. The residents have attended court over 100 times, in an attempt to stop Akfinans Bank from evicting them, after Akfinans Bank bought their homes from auction as a result of a defaulted £38,000 loan, taken out after the residents signed contracts and had partially built homes. Ertu Kader of Akfinans Bank has been exposed for fraudulently declaring the land as “bare land” when registering the banks mortgage interest, despite the Akfinans’s commissioned survey report showing 13 partially built homes on the site. At default judgment hearings Kader/Akfinans failed to report the existing of the homeowners to the court and took a judjement based on false pretenses. Marion Stokes of the Home Buyers Pressure Group claimed that over 1500 other home buyers were in the same position as Kulaksiz 5, awaiting the outcome of the long drawn out court process.

2. Title deed Ransom Bold textso called because when home buyers had finally obtained Permission to Purchase documents (PPT’s) and had paid their taxes and stamp duty, Landlowners and Developers held onto the title deeds in lieu of extra payments. Very often in the 10’s of thousand pounds.

3. Unfinished InfrastructureBold text hundreds of residential sites were never finished, with roads, or connected electricity and water. Often disputes arose over build quality of the homes between buyer and developer leading in hundreds of unfinished sites.

I would appreciate any further support for the amendment to the article, as neither the economy section nor any other section, mentions anything about any of these events, which currently dominate the news headlines and talk shows in the country.

ToZero (talk) 23:36, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

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Buon Natale

My best wishes for the coming year and this: Weihnachten in Istanbul. --E4024 (talk) 21:27, 21 December 2012 (UTC) See your mail please. --E4024 (talk) 12:10, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Kumkapı

Hi Alessandro. It is better to stay away when we don't have an idea what we are doing. Kumkapı is not a neighbourhood, it is a quarter. Neighbourhoods in Turkey have muhtars, Kumkapı has not any muhtar. Have a nice day.--Rapsar (talk) 10:44, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Rome

Hi Alessandro. I noted your comments on Favonian's page. I have also had a run in with the editor you mentioned and have reverted his addition of photos on Photographer and received a torrent of abuse for my pains. He has now added his photos and replaced other peoples on a host of other pages. It appears to be pure promotional posting to me. Regards  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   21:59, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Enrico Fermi

Thanks for your edits to Enrico Fermi, which I am hoping to bring to FAC like Robert Oppenheimer and James B. Conant. Your corrections to my spelling are much appreciated. Would you be able to explain for my edification, how the Italian university system worked? In English speaking countries we obtain an undergraduate degree and then enter a graduate school where I obtained my doctorate. I cannot see such a break in continuity with Fermi, so the system there must be different? Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

I do have one more question. In English speaking countries, it is the PhD that opens access to teaching at the university level (whereas in Germany, a bit more was required). What was the Italian equivalent of this? Hawkeye7 (talk) 00:29, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Defaultsort

Actually this was discussed a while ago, maybe around a year ago, and the correct sort is by the church name without abbreviations and special characters. The location name is the last part of the sort and not the first. This allows buildings to be sorted by the actual name and not the random city. If you need a different sort for a specific category, that can be added as needed. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:11, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Actually sorting 'Church of St. Mary Draperis, Istanbul' under C is correct since that is the name. If you want to drop the church part for the sort, if should be sorted as 'Saint Mary...' and not M since that is how these should be sorted. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:21, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

No. If you sort as you say, under the category Churches in Istanbul you will see all the churches either under "C" (churches) or under "S" (Saint). DEFAULSORT is needed by categories, and categories are needed to search articles. If we do as you says, ordered categories become useless. Alex2006 (talk) 07:27, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Economic predictions in the lead of Turkey

Yesterday Cavann agreed to keep out economic predictions out of the lead of Istanbul, but he is insisting that they be kept in the lead of Turkey, even though some of them go out to 2060! I've opened a thread here [4], feel free to weigh in. Regards, Athenean (talk) 06:54, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

External links about Antalya

We have noticed that you have deleted our links on such pages such as Demre, Alanya, Kızıl Kule etc. as spam. We have put these links to our website in order to give Wikipedians additional and more thourough information about various themes concerning Antalya and the outlying regions. As you will see our website is not a commercial entity, but a reference site that includes many aspects of Antalya. Regards, Antalyatanitim (talk) 13:48, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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GA Thanks

This user helped promote Enrico Fermi to good article status.

On behalf of WP:CHICAGO, I would like to thank you for your editorial contributions to Enrico Fermi, which has recently become a GA.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:54, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Switzerland

Hello, I'm aware of the linguistic and climatic divisions in Switzerland and I basically agree with you. The thing is that the article only says north, south etc... in general without referring to the Alps at all, hence my edit which was also aiming to simplify the rather awkward description (I also remember seeing an ad saying Saas Fee was among the southernmost Swiss towns by the way). Naturally we could describe the linguistic divisions in relation with the Alps but we can't just say "north" and "south", we have to say "north of the Alps" and "south of the Alps" or somethink similar, otherwise it just will look odd to the reader (as you said). Now you are free to edit as you want (per WP:BRD I won't touch it anymore for now) but I do think the previous version wasn't accurate nor clear enough. mgeo talk 16:12, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

I think BRD means you have the right to revert to the previous (stable) version untill the dispute is resolved. Anyway I'm glad you agree with me (also glad to have feedbacks when I edit, even when there are people disagreeing with me, so I don't feel too lonely on wikipedia..). Cheers. mgeo talk 17:32, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Janin

I had no idea Janin was such an eminent source on toponymy. My bad. Athenean (talk) 07:09, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

May 2013

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DYK for San Gregorio della Divina Pietà

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome

Actually, it was the word "lied" that caught my eye. There are two words "lie" in English, one regular, and one not. The regular one, which you used, means "not to tell the truth". I thought you were saying that either the Jews or the priests were lying. I didn't figure out that you meant the other word "lie" until I read it closer. The other question was whether "memoriali" was the name of the post. Get well soon, and take care. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 05:25, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

For your sincere observations concerning articles related to Istanbul. Proudbolsahye (talk) 20:57, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for 25 Luglio

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:17, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Roman unification of Italy

Hi, I have edit the page "Italy" adding Roman unification not because I am a fascist (fortunately I am not) but because I thought that it could be a right thing. I have seen that in the page "Egypt" it talked about the unification of Egypt done by pharaohs and they have inserted it in the same part where I wrote about the Roman unification of Italy. I know that Italy and Roman Italy are completely different, but I think that also modern Egypt and Ancient Egypt are different. I don't know why we shouldn't insert the Roman unification. Excuse me for my horrible English. -- Nick.mon (talk) 08:56, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok thank you for your answers you have been clear and I agree with you 1300 years are too may to say that Roman Italy and Italian Republic are linked. I will not modified more until have discussed about it in the talk page. Thank you and ciao!! -- Nick.mon (talk) 9:20, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Ahaha ok I completely agree with you. And puttanata is the right term! Bye -- Nick.mon (talk) 9:49, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Ahahah yes I don't think that in this moment they will be very interested in Wikipedia, they have other things to do. -- Nick.mon (talk) 9:55, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

disruptive edit

Please don't make edits such as this which amount to falsification of ITN criteria. Given your political statements, further edits like this will be looked on poorly if reported to WP:ANI. μηδείς (talk) 18:44, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Hallo Medeis,
I just read your message on mytalk page, and I am puzzled: what's the problem with my edit? And which are my "political statements"? Thanks a lot an advance for explaining it, Alex2006 (talk) 11:48, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I just read the requirements for updating an article in the news, and I start to understand...one sentence is not enough. Sorry, it is the first time that I propose a blurb in the news, my sincere apologies. Now it remains only to understand which are my "political statements"... Alex2006 (talk) 12:03, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Riccardo Giacconi

C'e' scritto nationality: Italian, American. Perche' quindi cambi quello che correggo?

I answered on your talk page. Alex2006 (talk) 08:43, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

I can't find it.

News about Myanmar

Good day! Could you help to add news? [5]--Many baks (talk) 14:41, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Clarification request on Racism in Italy

Could you please elaborate on the article talk page? Thanks -- cyclopia^speak! 15:47, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Link in UNESCO

Hi Alessandro57,

Why did you remove the edition that I created in UNESCO page?

Please, don't misunderstand my question, I only want to know the reasons and learn about it.

Thanks

Italian GDP

You are using the old GDP.You must check [[ List of countries by past and future gdp (nominal). I posted it on the Talk of "Econmy of Italy".

Hagia Sophia

Why do you prefer to stick with December 25th from Janin(1953) in the lead paragraph? When Mango and Scott make an explicit note on pg 316 of their translation of The Chronicle of Theophenes Confessor: Byzantine and Near Eastern History AD 284-813" Clarendon Press, Oxford 1997: (AM 6030, AD 537/8) "2. Theophanes' precise date should be accepted....". Surely, Mango and Scott (1997) were just as aware of Janin (1953) and respectful of his opinions, and wanted to get the date right as a matter of historical accuracy based upon the written record? You yourself must have good reason to supersede Mango and Scott (1997). I just don't know what they are and how they pertain to the rules of wikipedia. So please explain. Thanks. Neubauer95476 (talk) 18:00, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Hallo Neubauer, I answered on your talk page. Alex2006 (talk) 05:02, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Alex. I appreciate you looking into this, you'll save me a trip to the library to thumb though Janin again. Just to give you a heads up. There is also a good study of the etymology of the naming of the Hagia Sophia in this article by Granville Downey "The Name of the Church St. Sophia in Constantinople" Dumbarton Oaks Washington DC Harvard Theological Review, January 1959, Vol 52 Issue 01. "Logos" does not appear with the name apparently until about 813 and 916 in Theophones Continuatis. Procopious in both "Buildings" and "Wars" writing between the first and second dedications refers to The Great Church simply as "Sophia" without any modifiers. Neubauer95476 (talk) 06:33, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

So Alex, you are so right that I don't understand the Wikipedia rules :-(. But I am willing to learn. I do understand that you are the godfather of the Hagia Sophia page, and have an opinion regarding Janin. As a researcher, I am trained to look between the lines, and surely Mango and Scott were addressing an old issue when they added the note about the date in question. I gather from this that Janin probably argued the case for Justinian wanting Christmas Day, while the surviving fragment used in Theophenes and Malalas has a written date, and Mango and Scott emphasize the written over the conjecture. So my question for you is: why are you personally taking sides? Certainly Mango and Scott's remarks should be in the lead paragraph regarding the written record, while Janin's conjecture can be added in a section regarding a critical analysis? But then again, you are the godfather :-) Neubauer95476 (talk) 19:33, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

G7 and G8 in main presentation of Italy article

The presentation of Italy is ADEQUATE ,anyway G7 and G8 must be set like for all othe states in the presentation article at the beginning when are listed the institutions of which is member the state.There are the Symbols of Italy and the image of the Flag and of the Italian President.The ranking and the prestige of these MUST for honesty and correct behaviour be respected like in other states articles.Non si possono postare i Simboli del paese senza associarne un'adeguata e COMPLETA presentazione.Questo viene rispettato per altri stati come ad esempio United Kingdom e quindi questo va rispettato anche per l'Italia.Grazie-Thanks)Glc72 (talk) 11:11, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Zeyrek Mosque: Difference between revisions

Hello Alessandro57, and thanks for your input. The link Conquest of Constantinople leads to Fall of Constantinople and is used in daily Turkish language. Thanks, Yozer1 (talk) 15:23, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Italian Empire Map

Ah ok, now I have understand...I don't know why they do it wrong, but I don't know how to modified it, maybe you are better than me in doing it... -- Nick.mon (talk) 14:34, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Ok perfect, I think that's a good idea. -- Nick.mon (talk) 14:38, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Seven Hills

You are not worth me spending my time on. If you can't even understand what I am saying - and calling it vandalism to boot - then I am wasting my time. When I find the time I'll take it to the talk page and elsewhwere where necessary. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 07:46, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

I made an edit as is the nature of the WP, you reverted my edit and suggested I discuss it "if [I] don't like it". It is not a matter of liking - it is a question of logic, pure and simple. If there really are seven hills (at least 230 cities in the world claim to be built on seven hills), they they have been there for billions of years, it has nothing to do with them wanting to copy Rome.

And, I reverted ONCE, you reverted TWICE and you are going to block me for reverting? Intersting! Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 08:11, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Italians

Please, grab a calculator and do the sum of the sourced data in the infobox. Where the number 140 million comes out? --Enok (talk) 07:06, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Can you please help me against the IP's disruptive edits? --Enok (talk) 20:01, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Reply

Thank you for your invitation, I will join your discussion as soon as possible. The "Italians" article really need an update. I tried to do job but unfortunately some users seem blind towards reality for some reasons.--Francotti (talk) 20:09, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year Alessandro57!

	Happy New Year!
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Hagia Sophia

See message lodged on Talk:Hagia Sophia. Greetings from Los Angeles.--` (talk) 16:14, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

My new username

Hello Alessandro,

It's Proudbolsahye. This is my new username. Etienne Dolet (talk) 18:09, 13 January 2014 (UTC)