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Moving File:VMWare Fusion 7.0 Icon.png

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Hello. I noticed you responded to my recent VMware image move request. Since this is a personalized request, and you know exactly what you need to do ;p, could you please move File:VMWare Fusion 7.0 Icon.png as well? Thanks. Silikonz (alternate account) (💬🖋) 09:36, 1 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Silikonz-alt:   DoneAlexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 15:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for a pertinent reminder about re-thinking one's English (if one is not bringing one's A-game)

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Here is a thank you to all contributors to Wikipedia, who are excellent at writing correct English. (After all, they are the ones who pick up much of the slack when others add content imperfectly.) Regards from a Scandinavian i.p. ! 89.8.71.4 (talk) 11:46, 3 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hey there

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I understand your concerns about me not filing enough rename media’s, however Alexis, I did nab both this & this today. I really do put in effort. Celestina007 (talk) 00:10, 9 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you re: problems with Vlasta Děkanová image file

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I was having the hardest time bringing that file into full compliance with all of the pertinent Wikipedia protocol, specifically the file data and display sizes, some red squiggly lines that were appearing in it (because I had imported it from the original PDF to Word, without also doing an edit check, and did a screen capture on it to be able to save it as an image that I could upload), and then that bot "chasing me" (as you said) because I hadn't specified the origin or creator (which I had, I just had forgotten that one bracket, as you noticed and corrected, earlier up the page which threw the code off for the rest of the page which apparently did not register with that bot), so Thank You. I am not the very greenest of Wikipedians, but I know I can always learn more, especially from one so obviously proficient and advanced as you. QuakerIlK (talk) 18:16, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Photo of Sharif Sheikh Ahmed

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Thank you for adjusting the photo. There is a discussion on the talk page as to whether the photo should be reverted to the old one, and one editor feels that it is too dark and his facial features are not so clear. This is why I tried to adjust it. Amirah talk 14:16, 29 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

  You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 February 15 § Orphaned files uploaded by Krise. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:02, 15 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Quick question

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If an editor claims the right of an image has been transferred to them and the owner of he image has sent a mail to the OTRS to this effect, as non OTRS volunteers, Is there a way this claim can be verified? Celestina007 (talk) 23:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Celestina007: Essentially no, we are supposed to trust OTRS and the permission templates added to file pages by OTRS volunteers. (OTRS doesn't always manage to sniff out copyvios, so on occasion this is problematic, but what are you gonna do?) Obviously, if the identity of the owner is publicly known and they can be contacted off-wiki, you could attempt that. Also if you have severe doubts you could report your findings to OTRS, it's possible they retract the permission if you can prove it to be fraudulent. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
that does make sense. Thanks for taking your time to explain this. Celestina007 (talk) 23:54, 1 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Celestina007 (talk) 17:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you!

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  The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you for all the support and having faith on my contributions. Best wishes — Amkgp 💬 17:34, 10 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Arbitration request

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You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#User:Carlossuarez46 and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.

Thanks, Hog Farm Talk 04:16, 30 March 2021 (UTC) Hog Farm Talk 04:17, 30 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Did you really need to say "I'm sure responsabilidad isn't in your dictionary either."? User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 05:10, 30 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@: Yeah okay that could be shorter, changed it a bit. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:17, 30 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hey there! Two questions:

  1. Why do people want to be a party to the case? Is there some benefit (maybe glory) in being a party to the case? What about the drawbacks? Is it possible that users other than Carlos face sanctions in this particular case?
  2. What does "resolving by motion" mean? How does it differ from a full case?

Thanks 4nn1l2 (talk) 15:03, 30 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

@4nn1l2: He accused me pretty directly of conspiring in secret against him, I think that makes my statement relevant. Can't speak for others, I am unaware of benefits. But there is no community-based desysop vote process on enwiki (afaik), that might be why that ArbCom case kinda seems to turn into one.
I'm not the best person to ask as I have little experience with ArbCom. But wikt:motion should clarify: A parliamentary action to propose something. A similar procedure in any official or business meeting. The way I see it, a proposal is made and voted on. Otherwise, there's a bunch of stuff with numbers and timetables and having tea with the queen. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:48, 30 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • @4nn1l2: Being a "party" mostly means that you're one of the people directly involved. Like a lot of what happens at ArbCom, it's quasi-legal language borrowed from English court/judicial terms. As far as I am aware, ArbCom can pretty much sanction anybody, as long as it's the English Wikipedia. Resolving something by motion means that the committee feels the problem is simple enough that they can hold a quick vote on what to do, rather than having a full case, which requires several long steps and could take several weeks to conclude. GMGtalk 16:57, 30 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Several motions have been proposed in the case request you are a party to

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Several motions have been proposed at the case request you are a party to. If you would like to comment on them, you may do so in your section at the case request. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 19:10, 31 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Carlossuarez46 case resolved by motion

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A request for arbitration that you were a party to has been resolved by motion. A permanent link to the motion can be found here and the announcement can be found here. For the Arbitration Committee, GeneralNotability (talk) 02:58, 8 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Additionally, a suspended case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Carlossuarez46. For the Arbitration Committee, GeneralNotability (talk) 00:39, 9 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

GFDL

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Hi! I have been working on the Wikipedia:Licensing update on many wikis and I noticed that Category:Wikipedia license migration candidates still get new files. I thought that was just due to mistakes. Then I made User:MGA73/sandbox to look for orphan GFDL-files to see if they are still useful or if they should be deleted. And as you noticed I nominated many for deletion. But I found a few recent files so I found out that it was not due to mistakes that files are uploaded as GFDL. My guess is as pointed out that some users use GFDL as a way to avoid commercial-use or as a way to keep the files away from Commons. I know that not all like Commons so that I can't fix. But I think we can do something about the non-commercial trick. But perhaps there are any good reasons why someone prefer GFDL. I just don't get them. --MGA73 (talk) 10:47, 11 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@MGA73: Neither do I. I didn't notice any nominations for deletion beyond those two, I don't follow deletions regularly. I was on that page because I had nominated something myself that day. Users who dislike Commons or need local copy for any other reason can use {{Keep local}}. Do you have a list of recent GFDL files? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 14:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
No I do not have such a list. Should be possible to make one on https://petscan.wmflabs.org/ --MGA73 (talk) 14:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
But check this out Special:ListFiles/Jonathunder. --MGA73 (talk) 14:33, 11 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@MGA73: Yeah, that one's obvious. Though no reason to suspect that's using GFDL as a non-commercial backdoor as no CC-NC license is attached. I think some users use GFDL only to make a point. What that point would be is unclear. Something about all free licenses being equal or something. That was part of the opposition in the last proposal. The last proposal was poorly formulated anyway, it never had a chance. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 14:41, 11 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yeah I think a new proposal need a better intro. I think that "lets do as Commons do" is the wrong start. It should be more like "WMF decided that ..... lets honor their wishes and make Wikipedia more free" or something like that. No need to mention Commons as a main argument. --MGA73 (talk) 14:45, 11 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@MGA73: I believe the WMF has some plan to phase out GFDL entirely sitting in the fridge. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 14:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
Oooo. I have spend many hours trying to end the license migration project. So I would love to see things getting more standardized. Right now I work on ja.wiki and uk.wiki. --MGA73 (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi! I started on a suggestion at User:MGA73/GFDL. You are welcome to comment/modify. --MGA73 (talk) 19:20, 13 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your comments. I posted it at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Restrict_uploads_of_GFDL. --MGA73 (talk) 17:00, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, I was planning to look at this again but half forgot and half got caught up in some big abadi scandal. I'm slightly concerned with the "The content is licensed GFDL by someone else than the uploader on Wikipedia." exception. Two photographers could make a deal to upload each other's photos. Kinda disruptive, but technically allowed under these rules. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
I've boldly removed the proposal from VPP so the wording can be tweaked. Sorry again for not responding sooner, but I'd hate to see the proposal fail because it needed a few tweaks and have to wait a year before it can be brought up again. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:42, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
I know it is not a guarantee but I think it is hard to make it bullit proof. But go ahead and give it a try. --MGA73 (talk) 17:43, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello! Any further comments/suggestions or are we ready to go? --MGA73 (talk) 18:32, 9 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

MGA73, I see Pandakekok9 also noticed the proposal, so it has been proofread by one more user. Yeah, I think it's good. I bumped the deadline as the voting/discussion could last beyond 1 June, also did some more copy editing. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Posted again Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Restricting_GFDL-licensed_uploads. Thank you for your help. --MGA73 (talk) 16:38, 10 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Masem support to restrict GFDL for Wikipedians but not for third party sources. As you know it is not easy to implement because it is possible to get passed that by uploading to Flickr and then to Wikipedia.
How are the rules/practice for modifications of a suggestion in progress? If Masem (or any one else) knows a good third party source could we then add that to the exceptions list? I never heard of such a source but if it exist I'm not totally refusing to make an exception. --MGA73 (talk) 15:51, 14 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, don't modify a proposal in progress. It would invalidate all the votes. Masem, I added a note to remind users that if the need would actually arise (which is highly theoretical at this point), a new vote could establish consensus to make an exception for a specific source. Because many Wikipedians are active on various self-published sources, policy that only limits Wikipedians is difficult to write. (suggestions always welcome) — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:24, 14 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! Yes it would be possible to make future exceptions so I think it is a good idea to mention that. --MGA73 (talk) 17:30, 14 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I did some checks: A single user upload most of the files licensed GFDL-only: 2019: 83%, 2020: 95% and 2021: 100% The files uploaded by other users can be seen at User:MGA73/sandbox. If we bothered to check all the files we might find some copyvios or files that should be relicensed. --MGA73 (talk) 11:28, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

MGA73, I had already taken some to AfD. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:49, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Great! --MGA73 (talk) 12:52, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I had a new look on GFDL files and if we exclude those with GFDL-self or GFDL-user etc. there are not that many files: click here. And it seems that if you check the files from the bottom and up then most have a wrong license or can actually be moved to Commons because they are DW of existing files. I moved 2 files to Commons. I wonder if we should work a little on that because it seems that no new GFDL file have been uploaded in 2020 ans 2021 that is not bad or own and with a little work we can probably "push" the limit back to include 2019 too. --MGA73 (talk) 06:43, 18 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Perhaps Special:ListFiles/HilaireFernandes thinks that if the program is GPL (perhaps thinks it is ~GFDL) then the screendumps have to be that too. I wonder if it is even copyrighted. --MGA73 (talk) 07:09, 18 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, {{GPL screenshot}}. Those screenshots (3 out of 4) are probably not eligible for copyright protection as they mostly represent math. Though it depends on the country of origin, but I'm not sure how to determine that for an open source program. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 07:13, 18 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I wrote to 2 users and will check out more files later. --MGA73 (talk) 07:44, 18 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi! I was thinking of adding some more information about the files:

"There have been questions about the number of files and some said that we should not say now to freely licensed files from external sources. So I checked a bit to find out more about the files.

There is no easy way to find information about deleted files so the numbers above does not include deleted files.

There are 1,350 files in Category:Wikipedia license migration not eligible that have no creative commons license. It is fewer than the 1380 I mentioned earlier but some have been deleted as copyvios, some was licensed wrong and a few users relicensed. 1,004 files are own work (have the templates GFDL-self, GFDL-user or self) and 346 files are not marked clearly as own work.

After the change of license in 2009 there were still many uploads but the number dropped and in 2017 there was only 13 uploads. When Commons restricted use of GFDL in 15 October 2018 the number increased. 395 files are uploaded after that date (some are an edited version of an older upload).

  • Of the 395 files 365 is uploaded by 1 user and all uploads in 2021 is made by that user.
  • Of the 395 files only 3 are not marked as own work. 1 of the files is a copyvio now nominated for deletion and 2 files that are derivated from files licensed bot GFDL and cc-by-sa-3.0 so they should be relicensed.

So the numbers show that it is only wikipedians that still use GFDL and it is primary one user."

What do you think of that? --MGA73 (talk) 15:28, 22 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Updated numbers a bit. A user relicensed a few files. It makes it tricky to give the correct numbers. --MGA73 (talk) 19:26, 22 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Good catch Special:Diff/1025162718. I was actually wondering why someone used that. So my plan was to go look for it but I forgot. It makes no sense why totally new users should upload with GFDL and send a permission to OTRS suggesting GFDL. I wonder if there is other things like this... --MGA73 (talk) 05:47, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

MGA73, from some file histories I found Wikipedia:Media copyright questions/Header, {{Permission from license selector}} and {{Non-commercial from license selector}}. Who knows, there might be more out there. 2020 will likely get cleared completely. (not counting Jonathunder) — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:56, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yeah... I found Template:File source and Template:UploaderHints that needs to be fixed too. --MGA73 (talk) 06:04, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Lol got an EC on template 2... Perhaps PD-self should be changed to Cc-zero instead but thats another task. --MGA73 (talk) 06:31, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, I thought I added both. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:38, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
You did but I mean in general. Hopefully removing GFDL will help. --MGA73 (talk) 07:54, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps change Wikipedia:File_copyright_tags#For_image_creators and write "not recommended" next to GFDL? --MGA73 (talk) 07:56, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, I'll do you one better. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:03, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, it appears you didn't ask UNC2 about licensing. Was there a reason I don't know about why you didn't ask? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 09:59, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Only reason is that last edit was 1 year ago. But go ahead and give it a try! :-) --MGA73 (talk) 10:20, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I noticed that MediaWiki:Uploadtext/en-ownwork and MediaWiki:Uploadtext/en-withpermission suggest GFDL too. MediaWiki:Uploadtext/en-internet also mention GFDL. Wanna suggest a fix? --MGA73 (talk) 11:27, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

And Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials#Donating_your_photographs? --MGA73 (talk) 11:32, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Wikipedia:WikiProject_China/Cartography#Licensing, Wikipedia:WikiProject China/Transportation task force, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Japan/Photo_task_force#Scope_and_goals, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Baseball/Players#GFDL_Images etc. --MGA73 (talk) 11:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, you ping me I ping you back.  Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:25, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Great! I think if we search the Wikipedia pages we will probably be able to find other cases. I'm not sure about Wikipedia_talk:Basic_copyright_issues#GFDL_is_outdated but I think that now we found out that the reason someone use GFDL may be old templates, wikipedia pages etc. then we can do something about it. I think you found the main problem allready!!! --MGA73 (talk) 12:46, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Found a few more: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Comics/copyright#Rationalising_fair_use, Wikipedia:Did you know/Image, Wikipedia:Use_rationale_examples#Historical_photographs, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Indian_districts#Licence, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Indian_states#Licence, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Indian_cities#Licence. It will take forever to find all places GFDL is mentioned. I wonder if there is a better way. Other than restrict use of GFDL ^_^ --MGA73 (talk) 20:06, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Above we have been talking about GFDL on English Wikipedia. But I think that it would also be good to discuss GFDL Wiki-wide. In m:User:MGA73/Media per wiki I have been making notes about GFDL for some Wikis. But I think there are several things that should be discussed/checked:

  1. Smaller wikis should consider to direct all free files to Commons.
  2. If they allow local upload they should at least remove GFDL as a suggested license on MediaWiki:Licenses and all other pages (clean up like we started to do here on English Wikipedia).
  3. They should also consider to restrict uploads with GFDL.
  4. Have the implemented the license update of existing files? For example (|migration=relicense) if the file is old.
  5. If they have many GFDL-only files perhaps they should write to the top uploaders and ask for a relicense.

Some may say sure lets ban it but other wikis may say no. But at least they should be asked to decide. It will take some time to reach out for all wikis and help them check and fix. But if we make a good standard text in English it should be easier. I do not know if the global mass message system will be a good way or it is better to check before we make a post? --MGA73 (talk) 13:16, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I asked a user on another project and user had not been active for 3 years (only 7 users used GFDL so I wrote to all). Then I got a reply next day that user had not been active on xxwiki for a long time but he would have a look. If you know how mass messages work you could send a standard letter to user asking if they would relicense. Just make sure to exclude those that allready said clear no ;-) Personally I'm not sure I would like to spend the time on it. I would rather focus on other wikis.
When is it time to close this proposal and who usually does that? --MGA73 (talk) 12:53, 2 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, good questions but I don't actually know the answer. I have limited wiki-time right now, please ask again in a few days. The last vote was two days ago so no rush. Mass message is unlikely to be of any use. (under 20 messages you might as well deliver by hand anyway) — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:45, 3 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, automatic archiving (if no further votes or comments are added) would happen in 5 days or so. If more comments or votes are added in the next days, I say let it continue. If not, I'd suggest adding {{Do not archive until}} or a comment and making a request at Wikipedia:Closure requests. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:12, 5 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
There was a new vote so we have a few more days before it will be archived. I have been trying to remove GFDL on wikis worldwide. I found out that if I follow the Wikidata link on the pages where enwiki mentioned GFDL there might be GFDL on other wikis too. I have also asked users on a few wikis if they would relicense their files on their own. It is not easy on wikis that do not use latin letters and especially not if they write right-to-left. --MGA73 (talk) 18:56, 8 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi! The proposal was made more than 30 days ago so I think it would be possible to ask for closure at Wikipedia:Closure requests. If that is needed. Or perhaps I/you/someone could just close it? If you are not sure do you know anyone we could ask? --MGA73 (talk) 15:50, 14 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

If not perhaps Fastily knows? --MGA73 (talk) 16:25, 14 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, you sure you want to rush this? Votes are still dripping in and the most recent ones are supportive, probably partly because of the information provided in the discussion. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:50, 14 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
I do not see it as rushing. The proposal is that it should have effect on July 1 so it should be closed before that date. Otherwise we will have a situation where files can be uploaded as GFDL according to existing standards but suddenly are judged illegal.
But yes I noticed that there was a few more "support". My latest count is 21 support (including me) and 9 oppose (including 2 ip-users). If we exclude the ip users then it is 75 % support. :-) --MGA73 (talk) 06:18, 15 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, this is why in the Commons proposal I had worded that as "one month after the proposal passes". I see now on Wikipedia:Closure requests that "it takes two or three weeks after a discussion has ended to get a formal closure from an uninvolved editor". I guess the request has to be made about now in that case. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:29, 15 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
When I originally made the proposal there were a loooong time to that date... :-D The first point say that if there is a clear concensus then it does not need a formal closure on that page. It also says "When the consensus is reasonably clear, participants may be best served by not requesting closure and then waiting weeks for a formal closure.". So perhaps I should just ask Fastily or someone else for advice? --MGA73 (talk) 06:37, 15 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, I suppose so. The consensus seems reasonably clear to you and to me but we're biased. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:42, 15 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yes we are. That is why I think we should look for someone uninvolved. Do you have someone in mind? --MGA73 (talk) 06:44, 15 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, well, you named Fastily and Fastily didn't vote.. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 07:15, 15 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I asked for advice. Lets see what happens. --MGA73 (talk) 08:35, 15 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
The advice was to ask at Wikipedia:Closure requests. So lets do that if no more votes/comments pop in soon. --MGA73 (talk) 05:55, 16 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
I made the request now. Lets see what happens. --MGA73 (talk) 17:37, 17 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Hope you are doing fine! The proposal was archived so I moved it back and added a 30 day "do not archive...". We are now past 1 July 2021 so I made a comment about it at the "Closure request". I hope someone will close it soon and that there are no problems. Once it is closed I imagine that some policy have to be changed (if approved that is). Do you know what needs to be fixed? --MGA73 (talk) 09:35, 3 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

THANKS A MILLION!!! For your help with GFDL. --MGA73 (talk) 15:51, 3 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, you're most welcome!  Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 15:57, 3 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello again! I prepared a proposal on Commons: c:User:MGA73/GFDLproposal. My idea is that we change the cutoff date on Commons to match the one on enwiki. That will make it possible to move all GFDL-only files from all wikis to Commons. It will not make it possible for users to upload new GFDL-only files. It will not make a big difference for enwiki because enwiki has thousands of files but other wikis can move their files to Commons. Provided they do not upload more files with GFDL-only of course. But I made many wikis remove GFDL from the list of suggested licenses and I also removed it from various templates and pages like the you/we did here on enwiki. So I hope there will be no more GFDL-only uploaded to any wiki. Do you have any suggestions? --MGA73 (talk) 17:55, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

MGA73, I'm not sure if this is actually a good idea. At least you should take stock of exactly which files would be affected. Based on User:Alexis Reggae/GFDL file list not many I guess, especially if Jonathunder could be convinced to change license. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:07, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
I did try to estimate the number based on the files on English Wikipedia and the files in the other language versions of the sub categories of Category:Wikipedia license migration. The task is to find GFDL-only files that are uploaded after 15 October 2018 not copied from other wikis. The problem problem is that not all wikis finished the license migration and some GFDL files are not eligible for relicense but are licensed cc-by-2.5 for example so they are not GFDL-only. That means we can't assume that all files in Category:Wikipedia license migration not eligible (and Category:Wikipedia license migration candidates) are GFDL-only. Also on some wikis many of the GFDL-files are copyvios and they should be deleted and not included in the number. Do you have a good way to find the number of files? --MGA73 (talk) 18:30, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, not really, but perhaps it's more interesting to focus on those categories. As you note that on some wikis many GFDL-files are copyvios, I doubt this would end well. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
To be honest I think old GFDL files are more likely to be copyvios than new GFDL files. Anyway I will check again to see if 2000 files is realistic or not. I think if I check random wikis to see how many GFDL files they have. --MGA73 (talk) 20:52, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Question: Based on the wording are files uploaded today acceptable or not? See Special:ListFiles/Jonathunder. --MGA73 (talk) 21:09, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

MGA73, I noticed, and no, files uploaded today are not acceptable. Wikipedia:Image use policy: not permitted if "The content was licensed on or after 1 August 2021". Jonathunder either forgot or this is the result of timezone confusion. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:29, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hi! I counted the number of files on the top 50 wikis and the total number is about 3300 files. Many have FOP issues or are copyvios. I think it would also be possible to persuade uploader to relicense. So my guess is still 2000 files. I updated the page with some info.
Yeah timezones may be the problem. I will leave a message. --MGA73 (talk) 13:11, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, I already had. And I'd suggest cleaning up the copyvios, tagging the files with FoP issues, tagging personal user files that shouldn't be moved to Commons and persuading uploaders to change license first. Chances are next to nothing will be left afterwards, little that's worth moving to Commons. Jonathunder's photos are an exception, but policy for one user is always bad policy. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:03, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
I do not suggest the change to get the files moved from English Wikipedia. I try to move free files from all wikis to Commons and sadly many wikis have not fixed MediaWiki:Licenses and other pages before I started to mention it. I would like to kick start a global efford to update licenses and clean up files and Commons have users from many coutries so I hope we can fix many problems by asking users of Commons to help out globally. I bet only a few users WANT to use GFDL. Many just did it because it was recommended or they used it earlier. I hope that now English Wikipedia banned GFDL it will be easier to get the other wikis to do the same. It is hard to clean up wikis when categories do not have a interwiki links. For example "ജി.എഫ്.ഡി.എൽ ചിത്രങ്ങൾ" is not something I understand. Some wikis does not even categorize files by license. And many wikis have lots of files without a license. Once the licenses and categories are set up and they have categories like "All free files" and "All non-free files" then it is easy to find files without a license. So I have tried to stop new files from being uploaded as GFDL and by changing policy on Commons wikis have a chance to move all free files to Commons. Basicly the task is to check all files from A to Z and move good files to Commons and nominate bad files for deletion. --MGA73 (talk) 17:32, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
A dude on hr.wiki with 700+ GFDL-only files. Sadly he is blocked. But I decided to send him a mail to try to persuade him to relicense. I was thinking that if there are any users with big amounts of files then it might be worth it to send a mail. Even if they are no longer active. --MGA73 (talk) 19:52, 3 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
MGA73, hrwiki is a hornets' nest. You should consult with a native speaker (I don't know any), but assuming this is about Andrija1234567 it doesn't look good. They were asked on their talk page to start uploading to Commons, more than once. And they said Hvala na pomoći, imam još dosta svjetlopisa koje bih postavljao. Nisu mi stvari baš najjasnije oko licenci jer ih ima dosta, dosta sam sam uradio, ali neke planiram da svjetlopišem i iz knjiga, pa ne znam koliko je to dopušteno, uglavnom portrete osoba. I želim da se stavlja tako da druge Wikipedije, sem hr ne mogu koristiti svjetlopise. Ne znam ni koju licencu da koristim najbolje.. Machine translation says "And I want it put in so that other Wikipedia, other than hr, can't use photos." You'll need a native speaker to confirm this is accurate. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 01:23, 4 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Ugh.... Well yes that was him. As I understand it it is because of fair use that discussion. But I will ask a local user for help. I have talked to two extremy helpful users and they seems very interessted in getting things fixed. --MGA73 (talk) 08:22, 4 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

I made the proposal now at c:Commons:Village_pump/Proposals#Change_the_cutoff_date_for_files_licensed_GFDL-only. I hope you will support because it is not made for English Wikipedia but to make it easier to empty smaller Wikipedias by moving all free files to Commons. As written in the proposal most wikis have removed GFDL from the list of licenses to choose during upload so hopefylly users will not upload new files with GFDL-only. --MGA73 (talk) 17:50, 5 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

MGA73, I know that technically speaking I'm no longer blocked, but it's not quite that simple. Also, I quite possibly would have never found your proposal if you hadn't told me about it, so in a sense this might be considered canvassing by some. Any controversy wouldn't help your proposal. I'm impressed by m:User:MGA73/Media per wiki, maybe I can contribute somehow there. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:20, 5 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Well we have worked together on en.wiki and I mentioned you in my proposal so I doubt anyone would finde it strange that I tell you about it. :-)
Earlier I used to pick a wiki and work on that but it can take forever to fix a wiki so I made my list on meta and started to check a more wikis at the same time and try to kick start a cleanup by local users.
I have some quaries like vi:Thành_viên:MGA73/Status#Ideas_and_things_to_work_on I find useful. It does not take long to make a copy and modify it for a new wiki. I care most about free files and files without a license. Latest list resulted in hr:Kategorija:Neodgovarajući sadržaj 31. prosinca 2021. - slike bez licencija.
Usually I begin with finding out if they have categories like Category:All free media and similar for non-free media. If not I set them up so I can make lists of files without a license. I also try to add interwiki on license templates and categories for licenses. It makes it much easier to find out what a license is when we can see the English version. On hr.wiki they only had GFDL with disclaimers so I made them create one without disclaimers and asked users if they would remove the disclaimers and add cc-license too. If a wiki have not started the license migration I set that up too. Once all templates and categories are okay then a post to admins or village pump with a notice that they should cleanup. Sometimes I help out with my bot too. Also setting up FileImporter so it works and converts templates correctly during transfer to Commons. The latest few months I have focused on GFDL and trying to get wikis to stop using that.
You are very welcome to help out. If you have ideas to do it smarter feel free to let me know. --MGA73 (talk) 19:46, 5 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Question: Do you think aglobal ban suggestion on meta would work? See discussion on Commons. --MGA73 (talk) 19:00, 7 August 2021 (UTC)--MGA73 (talk) 19:00, 7 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

MGA73, I think this requires an update to foundation:Resolution:Licensing policy but you should probably ask on m:Wikimedia Forum. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 01:27, 8 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Stumbling block

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Hello, Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive332#Large_batch_deletion_probably_needed has been archived.

Xeno pinged me yesterday in their talk page, but I just don't understand what they say at User_talk:Xeno#Iranian_abadis and I don't want to pester them with my deletion requests. What is exactly the stumbling block? Could you perhaps provide a "for dummies" version? Is manpower needed? If yes, then I can provide it. I just want to finish this project on Iranian abadis as soon as possible, because I have been dealing with them for at least two months in at least two projects and I don't want to see anymore of it. 4nn1l2 (talk) 09:53, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@4nn1l2: I think Xeno wants to create redirects where appropriate, but it's unclear to me exactly which articles/redirects they want to create redirects for. So I can't really help either beyond the creation of {{subst:ABADI}} which I hope might speed up whatever Xeno wants to do. Btw, there is a similar mass deletion request for Azerbaijan articles created by Carlossuarrez46: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Azerbaijan articles created by Carlossuarrez46. You had actually voted on the original request but that was archived. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 10:16, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Why should Majidabad-e Ardalan redirect to Majidabad? 4nn1l2 (talk) 08:09, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

These have the same condition, i.e. a very specific place name goes to a general disambiguation page. I think dab pages should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones, not vice versa.

This one may be correct, but not necessarily:

  • Why does Zazul mention the Iranian abadi at all?  Y

These are definitely wrong:

These are correct and understandable:

I'm still trying to understand what Xeno had in mind. 4nn1l2 (talk) 08:36, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

4nn1l2, Ymblanter made these, I don't think they are needed either. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:47, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
The wrong ones have been created by you :)
Let's ping @Ymblanter: and know what they think about these redirects. 4nn1l2 (talk) 09:15, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
You are welcome to nominate these for XfD. For the time being, I am creating these redirects because I do not think there is community consensus on whether they are needed or not.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:05, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Email.

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You have mail. Regards, Heiro 21:22, 23 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Do you mind if I steal the messed-up diagonal table of contents for my own talk page?

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It gives me a chuckle. I want it. jp×g 00:47, 24 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

JPxG, go ahead! I actually stole it from User talk:MjolnirPants.  Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:04, 24 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Tips for finding text of books

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In addition to Google Book page preview, here are few other tricks I learned over the years: 1) Amazon will sometimes offer a preview just like Google Books, usually for newer books 2) rarely, a copy of a book can be found on Internet Archive - usually for older works 3) then there are the 'shadow libraries' like Library Genesis or Z-Library. Those are very useful indeed, although there are 'minor ethical issues to consider :> Oh, and books aside, check out the Wikipedia:Library. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:11, 1 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Piotrus, thanks! I'll be trying these.  Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 10:02, 1 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

COIN

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You might be interested in this thread I filed. TAXIDICAE💰 21:09, 1 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Praxidicae, I am, thank you. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:11, 1 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wrong edit summaries

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  • 11:37 Qala‎ diffhist −16‎ Alexis Jazz talk contribs Rm links from disambig pages to Abadi and Azerbaijan stubs per request, report errors if you spot any rollback
  • m 11:25 Kambu (disambiguation)‎ diffhist −78‎ Alexis Jazz talk contribs Rm links from disambig pages to Abadi and Azerbaijan stubs per request, report errors if you spot any rollback
  • m 11:25 Kaleh‎ diffhist −24‎ Alexis Jazz talk contribs Rm links from disambig pages to Abadi and Azerbaijan stubs per request, report errors if you spot any rollback

YOu are probably running twinkle or some other automation. Please be careful with edit summaries. Wron summaries create confusion and waste of time for other wikipedianss. Lembit Staan (talk) 19:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Lembit Staan, what's wrong about it? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:00, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
If it is that it's not literally 100% exactly the problem that was initially reported on Ymblanter's user page, well this evolved from trying to solve that and the solution is the same. The general request was "clean up after yourselves" and that's what I'm doing. The articles either are or will be deleted and shouldn't be redlinked either. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:06, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Once again, your edit summaries create confusion. If you are cleaning after yourself, do it in proper order: first delete the page, then delink it. By the way, Kalleh, Kermanshah is not your article, so you cannot possibly do a "clean up after yourselves" . Lembit Staan (talk) 20:38, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
As for article deletion, please follow the procedure: prod or AfD. Lembit Staan (talk) 20:40, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
P.S. Oh, I looked at Ymblanter's. OK never mind. If nobody notices what you are doing, in means nobody cares about these thousands of villages. My solution would be merge/redirect (I did this several times), but I agree it would be huge waste of time for nonnotable things. Lembit Staan (talk) 20:47, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Lembit Staan, no problem! I'm not an admin, so I can't delete first but the admins are working on it and they have their hands full so I try to help out a little. And it's a little safer to delink before some unrelated article gets created/moved with the same title as one of these stubs. The deletion has already been approved, otherwise I wouldn't delink. You are so far the only one to have noticed these links to thousands of villages going away.  Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:23, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Seems you opened the can of worms, Alexis Jazz and now you are tired :) While Carlos was not good at Persian, cleaning up the mess he left behind should be done by those who seem to have absolutely no clues about Persian or Iranian languages. What a sad story is happening on the English Wikipeida with all these misinformation about Iran :( Special:Permalink/1021087860 was a funny mishmash of Persian, Mazandarani, Arabic, and who knows[?] maybe other Middle Eastern things. 4nn1l2 (talk) 08:20, 3 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Strange file move

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Hello!

Thanks for moving the files I requested. I have a question though, why was File:Psycho-Cybernetics book cover (fair use).jpg renamed with (fair use) in the filename?Jonteemil (talk) 16:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Ditto File:Love Tracks (Gloria Gaynor album) (fair use).jpg.Jonteemil (talk) 16:10, 9 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Jonteemil, I've been meaning to start a discussion about that on a village pump. I generally add that to avoid (future) conflict with Commons. Since Commons doesn't allow fair use, adding that guarantees it'll never end up in Category:Wikipedia files that shadow a file on Wikimedia Commons. In the case of that book cover, someone might upload it to Commons as PD-ineligible. Discussion may or may not follow and in the meantime it would sit in Category:Wikipedia files that shadow a file on Wikimedia Commons. It can also happen that Commons fails to notice/delete the upload (example, local PD-USonly copy, DR for the same logo, see also c:Category:Sky logos) while enwiki decides it should remain local. In that case, the file would have to be moved again and that's what I want to avoid. For the Gloria Gaynor album, my idea is that someone may take a photo of the vinyl or CD (or perhaps a localized cover or re-release that might be PD-ineligible) for use on a Wikipedia without fair use and name it the same. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hmmm, I mean, I get your thinking, however I'm not sure how clever it is to do something which hasn't been decided on. Then maybe it is better to first ask, then decide and thirdly apply the newly decided-upon policy. But then we both now that deciding something like this doesn't really get much attention so a decision often takes quite some time, and I guess being bold then isn't such a bad idea, if one's intentions are good. I was afterall the one who asked you to be just that earlier... and yes I know my critique might seem a bit hypocritical...Jonteemil (talk) 19:22, 14 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Jonteemil, np, I get it. Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Recommendation for file (re)naming. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:43, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Notification

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It would have been courteous to notify me that my uploads were being discussed above. Jonathunder (talk) 16:54, 13 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Jonathunder, assuming you are talking about Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Restricting GFDL-licensed uploads, an example was asked for. You were the first search result. Per WP:CANVAS I couldn't ping you. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:21, 13 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

New templates call nonexistent templates

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It looks like you are still working on {{Not public domain/LangSwitch}} and related templates, so I won't modify them yet, but that template is calling three nonexistent templates that may need to be created or removed from the new templates (they may not be needed in this single-language wiki). Note that at least one of those was already deleted, so proceed with care and make sure you justify the recreation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:50, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Jonesey95, I see, thank you for reporting this. The main template {{Not public domain}} was working fine, so I hadn't noticed. After testing it turned out that the LangSwitch wasn't even working and just always returning English. (which is fine locally anyway) So I replaced {{Not public domain/LangSwitch}} with a dummy that always returns English, this should resolve the problem. I want to keep the dummy so the main template could be synchronized with the Commons template and vice versa with relative ease. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 02:02, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Looks good. The only remaining page with transclusions of these templates is User:Alexis Jazz/sandbox3. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:09, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Jonesey95, oh, I had used that in preview when I was creating the template. It's gone. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 02:12, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

The Fugitive

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It is done.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 04:34, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

NeoBatfreak, Thank you!Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:24, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

The World of the Wheel

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The Aiel and Shara map is here. All the maps are there at the Wiki Wheel of Time. I didn't know the issues to especially delete them, but ok. Can we keep the Randland map? Can you contribute to more resources to the World of the Wheel? It's one of the best Fantasy worlds in all high fantasy fiction. We can improve it further. it's also a D&D 3,5 companion book, but it's not that great. Can we improve it? Regards: Elan Morin Tedronai (talk) 12:42, 17 May 2021‎ (UTC)Reply

  • Elan Morin Tedronai, one fair use image per article is generally acceptable (Randland is the one in the top infobox, right?), though this map could get replaced with a logo or book cover if that's more appropriate. Don't link/upload anything from Fandom, we can't verify the authenticity of anything you find there. I know nothing about the World of the Wheel, just passing by. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 14:29, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

A cup of coffee for you!

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  For making me laugh with your comment about an automatic article link bot. Elli (talk | contribs) 01:51, 20 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Getting plain text articles from the DUMP

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Hi, sorry but I couldn't understand how can I do it. I didn't see any conversion option from zim to txt or an option to download only text in the wiki DUMP site.

Thank you! רן כהן (talk) 03:09, 1 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

You did wrong again

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AFemale_genital_mutilation&type=revision&diff=1026725254&oldid=1026720859

That summary's a personal attack and you should know better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.8.90 (talk) 22:50, 3 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Erasing it doesn't work

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You erased it because you know I'm right, you sanctimonious hypocrite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.8.90 (talk) 22:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

You were eaten by WikiJaguars, twice. You said It's also discriminatory and hypocritical that this article has no before/after photo but the male version of the article does.. Did it ever occur to you that maybe there simply isn't a freely licensed image available? And for the male variant there are medical justifications, some health benefits and limited downsides. For the female variant, there is absolutely no health benefit and no medical justification but the downsides are massive. That's why they are named differently. I'm all for gender equality, except for the situations in which men and women are actually different. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:24, 3 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Nom help

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Thanks for doing what I forgot. To not notify the uploaders was intentional, sine the bot does this for you, but to tag each file was not. If you would've contacted me I would of course have righted my wrong but because of you I didn't have to :).Jonteemil (talk) 18:14, 6 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Nomination for deletion of Template:ABADI

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 Template:ABADI has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. (I didn't nominate the template, someone else did, and they didn't notify you) * Pppery * it has begun... 02:23, 11 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Pppery, thank you. This was a temporary template that was substed in a number of places. It's no longer needed so I tagged it for G7. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 04:58, 11 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Commons VPC discussion

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Hi Alexis Jazz. I didn't realize until after I pinged you from Commons that you're no longer able to edit there. My apologies for that. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Marchjuly, no problem. I think the photos on Amazon are more likely to be PD. I've already taken a look to see if they are salvagable (as the scan is too bright) and I have a good version now. But I defer to Clindberg when it comes to copyright status, so I'm not uploading yet. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 03:08, 18 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
That set of three photos might be a possibility. None of them are exactly the same as the one that was being discussed at FFD, but they do seem capable of serving the same encyclopedic purpose as that non-free one. FWIW, I wasn't trying to be curt with you about NFCC#1 and images of still-living people, but there are quite a lot of threads buried in the WT:NFCC going way way back in which sthe subject has been discussed and none of them ever seem to have gotten very far. There's actually a discussion currently ongoing started by someone who feels an exemption should be made, but it's not gaining much tranction. Perhaps the only way to achieve such a change would be a well-participated RFC in which the question would simply be "Should non-free images of still living persons be allowed in the main infoboxes of BLP articles?" Of course, things aren't going to be that simple but starting out simple might make it easier to reach a consenus one way or another. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:41, 18 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Marchjuly, thanks, I'll have a look at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Archive 71#Exemption proposal. Now, looking at the high resolution image I restored from Amazon, I fear Clindberg is right: the horizontal lines seem to suggest it would be a wirephoto. It could in theory be the result of the scanner the Amazon seller used, but that feels like grasping at straws. Atsme, thanks for improving the source information. It's important for verifiability if nothing else. The FfD is closed so I couldn't comment there anymore. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:50, 18 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello, guru of pictures

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Sharif Sheikh Ahmed leadpic was replaced, which was a good idea. So I went to Commons and cropped it [1]. Now it looks weird (for me at least) on WP but not here [2]. I'm hoping this may be some sort of "hiccup" that will resolve itself sooner or later, but if you have any helpful wisdom. Pinging AmirahBreen if you also wonder. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:05, 27 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Gråbergs Gråa Sång, cache issue? I don't see a problem? And why didn't I think of PD-Somalia? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:16, 27 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Could be. And actually, I also just wondered why you didn't think of PD-Somalia. It could have saved a byte or two. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:26, 27 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Gråbergs Gråa Sång, hmm. I have the feeling we forget something.Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:50, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Right... Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:00, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
One can always ask. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:08, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Now at [3]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:12, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Gråbergs Gråa Sång, interesting, Universal Television (Somalia) indeed claims they have a studio in London, though the source doesn't support that. I wouldn't be surprised if any permanent satellite uplink isn't located in Somalia as they can't have nice things, but if the studio is also abroad it starts to raise questions about what the source country is. If the channel was targeted primarily at Somali citizens (thus first published in Somalia) and created by Somali citizens (we don't know that part), it could be argued that Somalia would still be the source country. However, the source does say it's targeted at the "global Somali community". On the other hand, one could ask who does the actual filming in Somalia. Random Somalian citizen? No copyright. UK (or any other Berne member) citizen (possibly employed by the TV channel)? Copyright. Random Somalian employed by the TV channel? Ask a lawyer friend and watch as their head explodes. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:25, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Well mused. I reinserted the consensus image, at least he's wearing the same hat. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:41, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Btw, thanks to your earlier instruction I was able to put an image on Mimar Sinan Mosque. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:49, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

If you're interested: Talk:Solomon's_Temple#Leadimage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:51, 22 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you

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... for what you said on User talk:SlimVirgin - missing pictured on my talk, with music full of hope and reformation --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:09, 29 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Image without license

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Unspecified source/license for File:LuckyRename.png

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Mifter, the file has a license, why is the bot bugging me? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:08, 3 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Your script shows up in CAT:CSD

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Hi, your script User:Alexis Jazz/LuckyRename.js apparently transcludes {{Db-r4}} and hence shows up in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion. Could you try to make it not come up in the category please? —Kusma (talk) 09:00, 4 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Kusma,   DoneAlexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 10:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello.

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Quick question: Why is the contents tilted and how can I make it that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Master of Hedgehogs (talkcontribs) 14:18, 13 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

The Master of Hedgehogs, put
<div style="-moz-transform:rotate(2deg);-webkit-transform:rotate(2deg); transform:rotate(2deg);position:relative;margin:3em 0 3em 0;">__TOC__</div>
at or near the top of your talk page. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 14:50, 13 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
The Master of Hedgehogs, I forgot to answer the "why" question. The answer is "because reasons."  Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:24, 14 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Precious

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better images

Thank you for quality articles such as Clodagh McKenna and Capitol Hill's mystery soda machine, for uploading images and using them well, for renaming images, for having Kitty navigate, for missing SlimVirgin, - Alexis, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2630 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:18, 14 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Arbitration case opened

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You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Iranian_politics. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Iranian_politics/Evidence. Please add your evidence by August 6, 2021, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Iranian_politics/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Moneytrees🏝️Talk/CCI guide 18:41, 23 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Chopin Poster

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Hi. Could you move File:International Chopin Piano Competition of 1932 poster.jpg to File:Poster of the 2nd Chopin Competition.jpg please? That would be in line with all the other posters (File:Poster of the 1st Chopin Competition.jpg, File:Poster of the 4th Chopin Competition.jpg, ..., File:Poster of the 17th Chopin Competition.jpg). Not sure why you chose to deviate from the rename request. Thanks. intforce (talk) 00:06, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Intforce, because the article title is "II International Chopin Piano Competition" (not using "2nd" or "3rd" etc), but English language sources don't seem to follow the roman numerals either. The year was the only thing that was consistent in style, it seemed a slightly better option than the request. I was unaware you uploaded these as a set though, so I moved it again. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:31, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. The naming is like that because I started with File:Poster of the 18th Chopin Competition.png, which had "18th Chopin Competition" on the poster, and after that I wanted to keep it consistent. Could you fix the typo in File:Poster of the 3th Chopin Competition.jpg as well? Much appreciated. intforce (talk) 11:19, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
  DoneAlexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:52, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

File:Gujarat Literature Festival logo.png listed for discussion

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File Moving

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Hi @Alexis Jazz: How goes it. I was wondering if you do me a favour. Can you rename the file File:SS Lothringen.jpg. I have been told that it needs to be renamed to Papendrecht. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 13:50, 15 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Done Scope creep, doing all right.   Still some stuff I need to get done, oh well, I'll get there eventually. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 14:05, 15 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Coolio. scope_creepTalk 14:09, 15 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Comment at AN

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Hey Alexis Jazz, I hope you won't mind, but I moved your comment at AN [4] as it looks like the script accidentally inserted it in the middle of another comment [5]. I wanted to let you know so that you could check it's where you intended. Thanks, --Jack Frost (talk) 12:18, 29 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Jack Frost, thanks for noticing! I replied to the initial post by Moneytrees at the top, expecting the comment to be added at the bottom after Bilorv. Instead it derped. I moved the comment to where it was supposed to be. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:26, 29 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

continuation

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No, I'm just saying that copyvio vs. offwiki threats of harm are two profoundly different issues. One is provable, fixable, and once acknowledged and fixed, forgivable. The other is none of those. I don't really know what happened, as my experience at commons is extremely limited, but to be falsely accused of something like that is obviously a hideous thing to go through, and I'm sorry it happened to you. —valereee (talk) 12:02, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

(for reference: this was a follow-up to User talk:Mike Peel#unblocking) Valereee, thank you. I agree that when no confidentiality is claimed over any motivation for a block your statement would generally hold true. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:35, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Rename file script

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I don't know if this by your scripts hand or what. A few days ago there was a file listed in Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming the file had been moved by you and the script. Now File:Nothing to Prove (1999 Jeffries Fan Club album).jpg is doing the same thing, its been moved by you and stuff, but is still listed in the Category. Like I said I don't know if the script has an issue or it could be something else. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:07, 3 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

FlightTime, I've noticed. This is a MediaWiki issue, probably triggered because the file page is edited shortly after moving it. If you perform a WP:Null edit on the file page it'll disappear from the category. Eventually it'll fix itself, all pages are periodically re-parsed. (could take days though) — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 01:14, 4 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hey, no biggie, just wanted to poke you on it. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 01:37, 4 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

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When I published from UploadStash, I thought it failed. So I tried again, hence two files. Actually I tried three times, but uploading a file with a name that exists on Commons is probably blocked. I don't think I ever got a confirmation from the API about the action succeeding, so this is a happy surprise. See also phab:T278389. This file is a higher bitrate version of c:File:Jefferson Davis High School band 2020-en.ogv. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:49, 6 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Proposed decision posted at the open Iranian politics case

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In the open Iranian politics arbitration case, the proposed decision has now been posted. Please review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the proposed decision talk page. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. You were notified as you made comments in the case request. For the Arbitration Committee, Moneytrees🏝️Talk/CCI guide 01:49, 11 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

RfA 2021 review update

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Thanks so much for participating in Phase 1 of the RfA 2021 review. 8 out of the 21 issues discussed were found to have consensus. Thanks to our closers of Phase 1, Primefac and Wugapodes.

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  1. Corrosive RfA atmosphere
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Renaming file

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Hi. What was your reasoning for renaming this file? "[Artist name] - [Album or song title]" is a much more common (and clear) file name for cover artworks. I'm not seeing why it needed to be renamed. Ss112 03:41, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Ss112: the original file name was File:NCT 127 - Favourite.jpeg which incorrectly uses British spelling. I use LuckyRename which has a feature that generates an appropriate filename. ("[Article title] (-year- -author- [subject type]) -media type-.extension") Year, author and media type are only inserted for some subject types. "[Artist name] - [Album or song title]" is nice in a music collection, but filenames here ideally allow one to identify the contents without context and File:Favorite (2021 NCT 127 album).jpg is more informative. In addition, file names must be unique. "[Artist name] - [Album or song title]" can cause conflicts, for example if you need to upload the cover for the single Favorite from the album Favorite. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 07:02, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Okay, but in this case, there's no worry about ever uploading a cover for the song version of "Favorite" because the majority of K-pop singles do not have unique single covers, as they are not released individually (e.g. months in advance of an album or physically) and only exist on download and streaming services as part of the album. In cases where the title track has been released from an album, I usually just add the word "single" or "album" to the file name. It doesn't matter that much, as it's not a file I uploaded. I was just wondering why you did. Thanks. Ss112 08:29, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
I've just discovered that the white background with the red grid cover is not the main digital cover, as this is not the cover Apple Music is using for the repackage. I presumed it was until I just looked. Even if the grid cover is too simple for copyright, if it's not the main digital cover we generally wouldn't use it, so it's been replaced now anyway. Ss112 09:46, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

RfA Reform 2021 Phase 2 has begun

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Fictional subject

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"File:Sebastian shaw.jpg" listed at Redirects for discussion

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What is copyvio?

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I don't know what do you say please explain me what is copyvio [6] you say this summary is "remove copyvio" I'm not professional on English Vocabulary 136.158.41.153 (talk) 10:37, 17 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Copyvio is a portmanteau of copyright and violation. See Wikipedia:Wikipedia abbreviations for more. c:File:LinkedIn new homepage.png had no valid license so we couldn't use it. To update the screenshot that is used on LinkedIn, overwrite File:LinkedIn homepage.png. I considered doing that myself, but the LinkedIn homepage looks slightly different for me compared to both the current screenshot and the one you had uploaded. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:20, 17 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
 

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The jpeg was probably the native format and after uploading I probably noticed in preview that it didn't look so well, prompting me to clean it up and convert to png. I must have forgotten about the jpeg. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 22:10, 20 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

File:K.G.F Chapter 2.jpg

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Could you please rename this back without leaving a redirect? The Commons file is a copyvio and I have tagged it as such. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:04, 22 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Kailash29792: The original filename wasn't fully accurate, the title is "K.G.F: Chapter 2" not "Kgf chapter 2". I don't see a benefit in moving it back. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:09, 22 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

File:Sherri Ann Jarvis (murder victim, born 1966).jpg

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The commons file was an obvious copyvio and has already been deleted. Any chance you can move this back to the original, simpler filename? Thanks very much   Zingarese talk · contribs (please use {{reply to|Zingarese}} on reply; thanks!) 23:14, 22 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Zingarese: Filenames must be unique, I am slightly concerned that in the future another completely unrelated Sherri Ann Jarvis could exist and we'd have to disambiguate/rename again. This would also happen if a random Wikipedian who happens to have the same name uploads a picture of herself to Commons under that name. Would "Sherri Ann Jarvis (born 1966).jpg" be okay for you? How strong do you feel about omitting spaces? If you insist on "SherriAnnJarvis.jpg" I need to consult with some colleagues because I'm not sure WP:FNC#1 was intended for such requests. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:54, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
That's a valid point, although I think the chance of what you describe happening is close to zero.   I don't feel that strongly about whether to omit the spaces or not - I never thought about that. I guess I'm now fine either way; your call. Thanks so much! Zingarese talk · contribs (please use {{reply to|Zingarese}} on reply; thanks!) 23:33, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Zingarese: Thank you, if you are fine either way I'll just leave the file where it is now per WP:FMNN.  Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:44, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming

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Please check File:Le Meridien Montparnasse Hotel Paris.jpg the move has been made, (by you I think) anyway it's still listed in that category and I do not know how to resolve it. Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 02:30, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

@FlightTime: User:Alexis Jazz/LuckyRename#Known issues and missing features. Null edit does the trick. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:44, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
LOL, that seems logical, thanx. Have a great holiday. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:37, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
@FlightTime: We have no holiday here (no Thanksgiving in Europe) but enjoy your turkey.   Yeah, it's odd. The script edits the file page as soon as possible after the move which is sometimes too soon where the Wikimedia servers accept the edit that removes the rename template but haven't fully realized that the page was moved. We're talking about seconds. I have a change planned for other reasons (to prevent replacements in the event a move fails, the third bullet point) that possibly affects this as a side effect, but we won't know until I finish and test it. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:51, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

About that block evasion IP

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A user version of that person appears to be [7], some IPing may predate that. They will seemingly make some normal-appearing edits which upon investigation are found to be incorrect. Ultimately they will have a compulsion to make one of their signature edits (censored images, etc.) which of course triggers a mass revert of all their edits.--☾Loriendrew☽ (ring-ring) 15:24, 17 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Goofy

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Please stick to the talk page and don't edit war. This is how the article has been for a long time and the burden of proof is on you to argue for the change. If you edit war again, you will be reported. LittleJerry (talk) 22:31, 19 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

I was going to recommend that you get Requests for comment to get a consensus but thanks for throwing a hissy fit. LittleJerry (talk) 23:11, 19 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
LittleJerry, you weren't recommending anything, you were just threatening to report me and reverting. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 07:59, 20 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

I said "was going to..." LittleJerry (talk) 12:11, 20 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

LittleJerry, good, I just hope next time you'll remember to do that before reverting. Happy holidays. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:06, 20 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Joyous Season

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Merry Christmas

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  Merry Christmas Alexis Jazz/Archives

Hi Alexis Jazz/Archives, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas
and a very happy and healthy New Year,
Thank you for all your contributions to Wikipedia,
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Thank you Davey2010, happy holidays to you too.   And um, does this mean I'm no longer banned from talking to you? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 03:46, 24 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 22

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RFA 2021 Completed

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The 2021 re-examination of RFA has been completed. 23 (plus 2 variants) ideas were proposed. Over 200 editors participated in this final phase. Three changes gained consensus and two proposals were identified by the closers as having the potential to gain consensus with some further discussion and iteration. Thanks to all who helped to close the discussion, and in particular Primefac, Lee Vilenski, and Ymblanter for closing the most difficult conversations and for TonyBallioni for closing the review of one of the closes.

The following proposals gained consensus and have all been implemented:

  1. Revision of standard question 1 to Why are you interested in becoming an administrator? Special thanks to xaosflux for help with implementation.
  2. A new process, Administrative Action Review (XRV) designed to review if an editor's specific use of an advanced permission, including the admin tools, is consistent with policy in a process similar to that of deletion review and move review. Thanks to all the editors who contributed (and are continuing to contribute) to the discussion of how to implement this proposal.
  3. Removal of autopatrol from the administrator's toolkit. Special thanks to Wugapodes and Seddon for their help with implementation.

The following proposals were identified by the closers as having the potential to gain consensus with some further discussion and iteration:

  1. An option for people to run for temporary adminship (proposal, discussion, & close)
  2. An optional election process (proposal & discussion and close review & re-close)

Editors who wish to discuss these ideas or other ideas on how to try to address any of the six issues identified during phase 1 for which no proposal gained are encouraged to do so at RFA's talk page or an appropriate village pump.

A final and huge thanks all those who participated in this effort to improve our RFA process over the last 4 months.


This is the final update with no further talk page messages planned.

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