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Indian current events

Hello Joturner, Not sure why you have merged the Indian currents events with the Pakistan even after the consensus did not indicate an unanimous vote of support. Please explain on my talk page. - Ganeshk (talk) 03:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

One more thing, It was an archive page of the news displayed on the Portal:India news section. - Ganeshk (talk) 04:01, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, there was no unanimous support, but that unanimous support is not needed to achieve consensus. However, it appeared as though there was a general okay to merge several of the regional current events articles on the merge's discussion page (which, by the way, has been up for a few weeks now). Considering that the page for current events in Pakistan hasn't been updated since March, it only made sense to merge the two related articles into one section. The inclusiveness of all South Asian nations into one article will also allow for events from Bangladesh and Nepal, for example, to be included on one of the regional events pages. Could you please explain the problem you have with the merge? Of course, the Current events in South Asia page needs to cleaned up to reflect the change, so overlook that for now. As the page will still contain past current events for India, is it really a significant problem for Portal:India and Portal:Pakistan. I don't think it's a big deal, but perhaps you disagree. joturner 04:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

The merger has resulted in a lot of confusion. For example, the first news of the section now says "Prime minister urges medicos to end strike. Medical students along with students from other institutes are observing strike against the proposed hike in reservation for OBCs in higher educational institutes." Definitely, the news now clearly doesn't mention its scope very well. While if it were on Portal:India's archive of News, the context is clearly present. The Portal:India is very active and per Nichalp there is no need to merge the archives of it to that of South Asia. Even if there might be a need to merge events of South Asia, the archives of News from Portal:India MUST be maintained separately. Just as you wouldn't suggest merging another of South Asian countries portal with Portal:India if they are not "up to the mark", the current event section also should be kept separate. Portal:India is a Featured Portal and for a good reason there are archives of the news. Any kind of changes to the archive will hurt the quality of the portal. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 11:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I resplit the articles back into two different articles, one for Pakistan and one for India. joturner 14:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello

In reference to your recent request, please see:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ta_bu_shi_da_yu&diff=prev&oldid=55743937
• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bhadani&diff=prev&oldid=55744066

I trust that you are fine. All the best! --Bhadani 15:00, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Please also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bhadani&diff=55747220&oldid=55747010 --Bhadani 15:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Once the image goes, I shall delete the discussion page too. Please take up the issue with #wikimedia-tech. I do not know how to contact them! --Bhadani 15:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Wow, the Image is now gone, and I deleted the discussion as they were of no use. --Bhadani 15:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

It was my pleasure - thanks for thanks, hahhhah. --Bhadani 16:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments in Lar's RfA!

We are here to build an encyclopedia!

Hi Ambuj, and thank you for your supportive comments in my request for adminship! With a final tally of (109/5/1), I have been entrusted with adminship. It's been several weeks since the conclusion of the process, so hopefully you've had a chance to see me in action. Please let me know what you think! Thanks again, and I will do everything I can to justify the trust you've placed in me! ++Lar: t/c 03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

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PINSAC Ahmedabad

Hi Ambuj, Ahmedabad seems to be faring very well at PINSAC & has IMO spent quite a bit of time there. I'm not sure if I, as nominator, can promote the article to SA. So can you please do the needful? Thanks. Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 15:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 16:38, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

IIT

I have made certain changes in the IIT article with references. Please change the language, if needed to suit NPOV. You seem to be a bit notorious in wiki for slashing all edits which you do not consider NPOV from your POV.Cygnus_hansa 10:08, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

NPOV

No, I just read certain comments from the others on various talk pages; and the fact that once long ago I had made many edits on IIT and JEE articles, which you had given a complete "facelift".Cygnus_hansa 14:13, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

NPOV again

See, time and again, whenever you ahve to make "generalized" stamements, you got to use such words which you have called "unencylopedic". Check any featured article, they often use such words. Replacing them with "exact" words like you do would mean ignoring the exceptions one might have encountered. Also, the POV/NPOV does not have to be checked for each and every line and phrase and word; it has to be checked for the entire article as a whole. e.e, one might make a generalized statement, and then in the next sentence, enumerate the exceptions. According to your view, it would seem that both lines must be khatched!

Hindi wiki work is going on well but slow (kind of inteminnent). As User:Hemanshu is the only bureaucrat there, I am still waiting for his decision to be promoted to adminship (or not). Cygnus_hansa 19:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Fundamental Rights...of India

Hi Ambuj - I need your help in making this article an FA. I feel it needs a lot of work. Shreshth91 has worked so hard on it for quite long, and is very constrained for time. I want to help him organize a (successful) FAC before he moves into the dreaded 10th standard. Please lemme know what you think is necessary to be done. Rama's Arrow 20:15, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

P.S. - The IIT FAC is going quite well! You've gotta hand it to Spangineer and Tony - they reduce us to shame in two sentences. Nevertheless, the poignant criticism is often obtained in FAC itself, so one must never fear such "oppose" votes. Rama's Arrow 20:17, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Enquiry

Hey. As it is currently set up, any image type of any subject can be nominated as a FPC -- policy doesn't explicitly exclude anything. Personally, I think a good autostereogram, one which shows what autostereograms are all about, would satisfy the criteria. But, as you say, and as the India map promotion revealed, many voters do have problems promoting images that are not pictures. I think an autostereogram would have trouble. You won't know until you try, though, so if you have a good autostereogram in mind, I would encourage you to nominate it. -- bcasterline • talk 22:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

IIT IS FA!! Rama's Arrow 04:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

From me too - Aksi_great (talk) 08:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

You did a great job my friend, and congratulations !!! -- Samir धर्म 09:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh hey, your points are valid of course, but you don't have to ask me - you can correct 'em, coz its your written FA anyway. Rama's Arrow 12:04, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Please check it out, I've copyedited it - I think the blurb must mention the location of all 7 IITs, though. Rama's Arrow 12:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Iqbal PR

Hi Ambuj - I request you to please have a look at Muhammad Iqbal. I need your help in making this an FA. Rama's Arrow 12:35, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

FAC

Hi! I see you around on FAC a lot, and I was wondering, if you have the timw could you please look at the nomination for Deconstructivism? It's been on there a long time and is in serious need of more votes. Thanks for your time, RyanGerbil10 16:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

The nom passed. Thanks for your time, and your vote, RyanGerbil10 05:38, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

"इंडिया बेशर" लेख

प्रिय अम्बुज जी,

आपने "इंडिया बेशर" लेख पर "डिलीट" मत दिया है, मेरा अनुरोध है, आप अपने "डिलीट" मत पर पुनः विचार कीजियेगा |

लेख का नाम बदलने का सुझाव कई व्यक्तियों ने दिया है, यदि लेख मिटने से बचा, तो अवश्य ही इस सुझाव पर विचार किया जायेगा|

आपने नोट किया होगा, खालिस्तान व "आज़ाद कश्मीर" के समर्थक इस लेख के विरोधी हैं

पंजाब में खालिस्तान के नाम पर कितना खून खराबा हुआ, आपको ज्ञात ही है| कश्मीर व नागालंड में विदेशी हस्तक्षेप से भी आप परिचित होंगे | यह विषय महत्व पूर्ण है | विकीपीडिया के पाठकों को इस विषय पर जानकारी उपलब्ध होना चाहिये

आग्रह कर रहा हूं, आशा है क्षमा करेंगे

विक्रम सिंह

"Bitching" apology

OK, I'm sorry for overreacting. Lately it seems I keep encountering people who complain irately on talk pages about something that's easily fixed, instead of just fixing it. Often it's in this tone of "why can't you [whatever page] people get this straight! Fix it right away!" But I see you weren't really irate, and it wasn't as simple as that, I just boiled over at the wrong moment, at the wrong person. I guess that's wikistress. My apologies. · rodii · 03:04, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

so wat's next?

So friend - your primary mission is accomplished. What does the future hold for thee? I'm gonna be working regularly on FA drives for different articles, at whatever speed possible. Rama's Arrow 06:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Are you on staff at one of these colleges? Any potential fee-paying PhD students who are interested in studying material science/engineering in Australia? Tony 12:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

It was only a hunch. One of my clients (Indian by birth) wants to forge alliances with Indian colleges. Tony 12:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I've looked at the lead; there are consistent problems of redundancy. Perhaps you'd like to work through my tutorial in identifying redundancy in prose, and then apply anything you learn through it to the article? Tony 01:58, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback on 2a; I've added a clause to the lead for Exercise 4.

"Here are more difficult examples, which require varying degrees of rewriting."

Tony 10:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Poona Pact

Hi! I just created Poona Pact and added it to the Reservation in India template. Please have a look and copyedit (it needs good copyedit). Also, see if incorpration in the template was ok in style. IMO, it should be in the template as it is a landmark in the process of reservation. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:49, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:so wat's next?

Hahahahaha....I wonder if a girlfriend might solve the problem, or exacerbate it? Consider working on articles related to your studies - the science/math/engineering FAs are very few in number, and we need people to focus on it. This work might be indirectly useful in your MTech work. Rama's Arrow 18:03, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Dashes

Yeah sure:

Further details are given here: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dashes)

• The M dash (—) takes the width of the upper case letter "M". I personally prefer not to use it.
• I use the N dash in most of my articles as a clause. I leave a leading and trailing space over the dash
• Hyphens link two words together.
• − is used to denote negative numbers. (Browsers might sometimes render this differently)

PS: use & to mark the ampersand so that the HTML entity is not automatically redered. eg –

Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:19, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

An en dash is typically used to indicate "to"; in particular, ranges. For example, 1925–47, pages 43–56, and the Dubai–Delhi flight. Tony 10:03, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

United States article nomination

It seems like the major reason you are objecting is because of the Largest cities table. For an understanding of why it's kept, please see Talk:United_States/Archive_15#Largest_cities_table. It's very unfair that you are objecting because of the opinions of a few people and I hope you will change your objection or offer a new explanation.--Ryz05 _t 13:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

So you mean if all the references are consistant (placed after a punctuation) and if all the captions conform more to Wikipedia:Captions and having all but one of the images removed in the Largest Cities section will change your vote?--Ryz05 _t 14:57, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestions, but I'm thinking that a major article size change and summarization would best be discussed by the community before it's carried out, since many people seem to support the article the way it is. As to the pictures next to the largest cities table, they fit perfectly on my screen and they don't overlap. I'm not sure if the problem that you have is shared by others or pretain to the majority of readers. The mulitple pictures are used to show the uniqueness in the various cities, instead of just concentrating on New York City, but I understand your argument in having just one picture.--Ryz05 _t 22:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

There are many people who are objecting because the size, but if we cut down on the information, then people are going to object about its comprehensiveness, like some who are already objecting. If this doesn't pass the nomination, then it seems it never will, and that would be very unfair.--Ryz05 _t 23:18, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

List of cricketers

I think that it applies to articles. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you; I'm honoured

Hi, Ambuj:

I'm sorry that it took a day to get back to you. I woke up yesterday morning with the unholy combination of a migraine and nasty laryngitis, and I sound like a tortured teapot at the minute! Anyhow, thank you for the barnstar and your kind comments; they were quite a suprise, and I am very gratified by the recognition!

I have always hated the sight of 'it's' in the place of 'its;' it's my bête-noire, I suppose. Even though it is less interesting than my creating articles, I like to do what I can to reduce the number of instances of this on Wikipedia by spending a few hours tracking the blighters down. It might be a little eccentric, but I think the encyclopædia's being grammatically sound is as important as the contents therein.

As for copyright, I made that copydown image out of antipathy towards the whole system, although I would be intrigued to see how you corrected it :). I've written things and made CDs, and my own opinion is that a free flow of ideas open to everyone would be far better than the current system, which only benefits a minority. I would rather that people were accessing my things than paying for them. Who knows, maybe we'd have less people just in it for the money if copyright were taken out of the agenda; or possibly, I'm just being a vacant idealist...

As for understanding copyright policies, you're right, I don't have much of a clue in that arena. Well, I did study law a few years back, but I avoided copyright statutes- and all forms of commercial law- like the plague, and stuck to mostly criminal law. Given the choice between studying individuals' acts of madness and hundreds of clauses in a patent act, my interest slightly leaned towards the former!

Best wishes, Andriët (--It's-is-not-a-genitive 18:10, 2 June 2006 (UTC))

Hindi Wiki

I, one of the new sysops, have given a throughly new look to the main page of Hindi Wikipedia. Please see the Main page, and give me comments on my English user page en:User:Magicalsaumy.

Translation request

Hi Ambuj, a translation request: Could you add the Hindi translation to: commons:Template:Nazi symbol? Thanks, =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Ambuj! I have to bother you again: Browsing though commons:Category:License tags, I found more such licences that could do with a translation if and when you have the time:

• commons:Template:PD
• commons:Template:PD-self
• commons:Template:PD-old
• commons:Template:FAL
• commons:Template:Lueger
• commons:Template:PD-ineligible

Plus an additional two tags are created to move works from the local wiki to commons. eg:

• commons:Template:PD-user-en
• commons:Template:GFDL-user-es

Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:16, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the translations. Regarding the PD template, a lot of users still upload files using the deprecated template. It wouldn't hurt to have Hindi along with other languages. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:13, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Yup, it reads ok to me. Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 02:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you once again, but I found 3 more :) commons:Template:Superseded, commons:Template:Duplicate and commons:Template:SupersededSVG =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

+commons:Template:Deleted duplicate =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:37, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your efforts =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Hindi Wiki

I am looking forward for your cooperation. Thanks for it. Although I have quite less time, being a passout, now that I have to go home and internet availability would be sporadic. Still, lets gets some things started and going on by common consensus.Cygnus_hansa 12:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Hindi Wiki Insert tookbox

Hi, The Hindi wikipedia's Insert toolbox has been edited to include many new characters. Please edit and common page at Hindi wiki, just to view the new insertbox. About the स and श with dot below, I shall give a detailed explaination later. And I know that the comments within this toolbox are very nervejarring, but to encourage foreigners, etc, I think the phonetic symbols should be there. Please bear with me for that. Thanks, Cygnus_hansa 19:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Nope - too senior

Hi. I have never met him. He seems to be very senior to me. I am currently in my 3rd year. But who knows - The world is a small place after all! Talking about college people - do you know a Rushin Shah from Ahmedabad at IIT? He was in my school. - Aksi_great (talk) 17:14, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey. I am extremely sorry. I never saw this. I will work on it today or tomorrow. Sorry once again. I really appreciate your work on Portal:India. - Aksi_great (talk) 17:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

AP Images

Hi, Regarding the Images for the regions in Andhra Pradesh, in the articles itself, I have indicated (in the caption) that the region in white was the one specified. Do you think I should put this on the image itself? I didn't think that it would make much difference, but if you think it would be more helpful and/or easier to understand, I will change it.

Thanks. Bmaganti 18:57, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Summaries for SCs

Hi. I have added the summaries for both Ahmedabad and Sidi Saiyyed Ni Jaali. I have used the format of other summaries. Please check them out and edit them as suitable. You can contact me for any further details. - Aksi_great (talk) 17:38, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Invitation and Recommendations for writing articles on Hindi Wikipedia

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   • हैरी पॉटर ने Pensieve के अन्दर Little Hangleton गाँव में लॉर्ड वोल्डेमॉर्ट की माँ Merope Gaunt को देखा
   • Resplendent Quetzal पक्षी के ऊपर एक मेक्सिकन पादरी डा० Pablo de la Llave ने काफ़ी शोध किया था
9. Always start the first 1 or 2 lines of the article giving its definition (from any standard dictionary/other wiki) or suitable introduction. Thus, recommended: ललिता सहस्रनामन हिन्दू धर्मसुधारक आदि शंकराचार्य द्वारा रचित देवी दुर्गा को समर्पित एक पूजा-मन्त्र है, जिसे कई हिन्दू रोज़ श्रद्धा से जपते हैं । But not: ललिता सहस्रनामन मन्त्र जपने के लिये लड्डू-पेड़ा, ताम्बुल, सिन्दूर, लाल चुनरी के साथ नित्य इस मन्त्र का पाठ करें, तो जल्द ही गड़ा हुआ ख़जाना मिलेगा । Recommended: वैमानिक अभियान्त्रिकी (en:Aeronautical engineering) विमानों (en:Aircrafts) की अभिकल्पना, निर्माण और प्रचालन करने का विज्ञान, कला और कार्य है । (translated from Eng. Webster's New World Dictionary). But not: आजकल वैमानिक अभियान्त्रिकी के लिये देशभर में कई कॉलेज खुल गये हैं, जिनमें अग्रणी स्थान यूटोपिया स्थित लालू-यादव टेक्लिनक कॉलेज का है ।
10. For names of countries, cities, places, languages, people, books, films, technical vocabulary, mythology, etc, start the article like this:
    • 1. The name in bold ('''अपोलो''')
    • 2. starting parenthesis, then English name in Roman script, in-page interwiki-linked to English wiki ff. by semicolon ((अंग्रेज़ी : [[:en:Apollo]];)
    • 3. The native name(s) if applicable in the italicized native script, preferably followed either by its italicized approximate Hindi pronunciation or non-italicized phonological transcription within / /, ff. by closed parenthesis (यूनानी : ''Aπollων अपोल्लोन''))
    • 4. the rest of the definition or introduction (प्राचीन [[यूनानी धर्म]] (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन [[रोमन धर्म]] के सर्वोच्च देवता थे ।) For country names, only the standard short form of the name is needed in the first line. If there is a common name for a difficult word in Hindustani, also mention it. Whence: अपोलो (अंग्रेज़ी : en:Apollo; यूनानी : Aπollων अपोल्लोन) प्राचीन यूनानी धर्म (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन रोमन धर्म के सर्वोच्च देवता थे । If you don't give the interwiki English/another language link (which would be deemed to be the default reference), then you MUST provide an appropriate reference.
11. Please leave no article without an appropriate category. See the list of created categories here; you can also make a new category (pref. in Hindi). Please leave no article without at least ONE off page (like en:) interwiki link. E.g., the user can check the article name (say Apollo) on the finally redirected English page and append to the Hindi article ([[en:Appolo]])). These interlanguage links will help a bot to update all interwiki links for that article in all wikipedias. The category and the aforementioned link should be typed at the end of the article. If the article is very small, mention it as a stub/substub.
12. Use of templates is welcome. See the list of templates here. If creating a template, name it pref. in Hindi.
13. Use पूर्णविराम ( । ) instead of a period (.) for ending statements. The पूर्णविराम, semicolon, colon and dash (but not comma) must come after one space after the word to prevent ambiguity. Use the international form of the Hindu-Arabic numerals (1,2,3 instead of १,२,३), as used by the Constitution and the Government of India (even for Hindi). There is no need to use the हलन्त at the end of Sanskrit words wherever it occurs. Hence, prefer: संसद over संसद्; अथर्वन over अथर्वन्. Use the proper quotation marks “” from the Insert toolbox, not "". Write dates as 2 मई 2006 (ईसवी or ईसापूर्व). Write time as 3:45 pm. Separate common suffix-words like शास्त्र, विज्ञान, ज्ञान with a hyphen. Thus: रसायन-शास्त्र. For most others, leave both the words of the noun-cluster free. Combine them into one word only if it is very common to do so. Thus: सामवेद.
14. The use of ज़ for the en:voiced alveolar fricative (/z/, as in zoo, rose) is fundamentally wrong. Its nearest counterpart is the en:voiceless alveolar fricative /s/ (as in sea), and not Hindi ज (en:voiced palatal plosive). Hence, it is suggested and recommended that for the sound /z/, whether it comes in English (etc.) spellings (z) for while pronunciation otherwise, should be transcribed as स़ (स with a dot below, available in the Insert toolbox). Hence: Reason रीस़न, not रीज़न ; Roses रोस़ेस़, not रोज़ेज़. But common Hindi words borrowed from Persian/Arabic (so-called Urdu words) are allowed to continue with ज़ spelling. Thus: ज़रा, नज़र, तर्ज़. The en:voiced postalveolar fricative (/ʒ/ as in treasure), inexistent in Hindi, can similarly be transcribed with श़. Thus: treasure ट्रॅश़र. The nukta (dot) available in the Insert toolbox can be combined with various consonants to suggest a more exact phonetic devanagari rendering of foreign sounds. E.g., since phonetically, English Think and this are not equal to थिंक and दिस, a better transcription could be थ़िंक and द़िस. Please take care of the dot below in so-called Urdu words, otherwise the Hindi spelling is deemed incorrect.
15. For the following English vowels met, mate, mat, transcribe as मॅट (short vowel), मेट (not मेइट), मैट (not मॅट, as popular in Marathi). However in contemporary Hindi and here, it is acceptable to use ए instead of ऍ. Thus: अमेरिका is more popular than अमॅरिका. For cot, coat, caught, transcribe as कॉट, कोट, कॉट (not कौट). Transcribe English /t/ and /d/ as ट and ड.
16. Use half-न before त, थ, द, ध, न, instead of anuswaar अं. Use half-म before प, फ, ब, भ, म. Use the anuswaar before all the rest of the consonants (not half-ङ, ञ, ण). If the मात्रा is not above the alphabet, use chandra-bindu, but only for nasalization. Thus: अन्दर, not अंदर ; अन्त, not अंत ; हिन्दी, not हिंदी ; सम्भव, not संभव ; पंचमी, not पञ्चमी ; अंडा, not अण्डा ; कंठ, not कण्ठ ; लैंड, not लैण्ड ; आँख, not आंख. However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here; the prec. are just recommendations.
17. When proceded by another vowel, use the pure vowels instead of य (unless the य is clearly articulated while pronouncing). Thus : जाएँ, not जायें (not जावें) ; आएगा, not आयेगा . However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here.
18. Please pay careful attention to the masculine/feminine gender (and singular/plural) in adjectives and verbs, else the sentence becomes ungrammatical.

For more information/suggestions/criticisms, please contact any one of the administrators of Hindi wiki here, preferably en:User:Magicalsaumy.

This page can also be found here.

Thank you,

Cygnus_hansa 23:39, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Uncivil?

How? Tatra 08:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

How about this [1]? Would you like to warn Impunmohi now? Tatra 09:03, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your intervention on NPL and in resolving the photo issue on many pages. I greatly appreciate it. Regards, ImpuMozhi 16:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello, Ambuj.Saxena/Archive 4, and thank you for the supportive vote on my recent RfA! With a final vote of 84/1/4, I have now been entrusted with the mop, bucket and keys. I will be slowly acclimating myself to my new tools over the next months, but welcome any and all feedback and suggestions on how I might be able to use them to help the project. Thanks again! - Kukini 05:15, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Ambuj

Dear Ambuj, thanks for your support during my recent successful request for adminship. I really appreciate it, my friend. It's been a pleasure getting to know you this past little while. I also note that you, unlike me, pass the Diablo test (let me know when you want the nom...) Take care man -- Samir धर्म 05:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

IIT

Hi, pleased that you're working on it. My work schedule is getting crowded—until the end of June—so it's a little hard for me to offer much. Why can't I discuss the article with other editors? (I wasn't intending to, though ...) Tony 08:36, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Novels WikiProject Newsletter June 2006

Here is a new initiative for our project. You are recieving this as you have at some point signed up as a "member" of the project. Have a look at the newsletter via the link and see what you think. The June 2006 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 08:52, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

My take on the IIT FAC

Hi Ambuj,

Well, let's see. I don't think that I voted "support" on the IIT FAC because I felt too "broken" to raise more objections. I have no problem being the only person to object to an FAC nomination; in fact, it happens quite frequently. I will say, however, that I have a tendency to subconsciously "reward good behavior". That is, if I saw two FACs of identical quality but slightly below my standards, and one of them had been worked on extensively through the FAC process while the other had not, I would be more likely to vote support on the first than on the second. Just a tendency of mine—I don't enjoy being confrontational to people who are obviously working hard to make improvements. That tendency is perhaps stronger when I'm the lone opposition. So perhaps some of that influenced my decision, but I don't think it was a significant factor. When I voted support, I recognized that the prose was still not at 100%, but after reading the article thoroughly looking for errors, I recognized its overall quality and was willing to back off a little bit on the prose. That's something I'm willing to do—if an article goes above and beyond in some areas, I'm often willing to leave minor problems alone and support anyway.

Another factor in this case was the amount of time I put into the article. It's rare that I spend as many hours as I did attempting to fix an FAC, and the effort I put into it may have influenced me to vote support (since one always thinks more highly of one's own work). There may have also been a sense of futility--I was the only one picking out some of the grammar errors (even after Taxman copyedited it, I went through again and found another dozen problems). So it becomes easy to think to oneself, "oh, maybe I'm the only one who sees these problems; perhaps they aren't really that big of a deal".

It's complicated. I don't think I was "broken" into voting the way I did. However, if the article had first appeared in its current state on the FAC page, I might not have supported it right away. But I don't regret the vote—being human, I'm incapable of being a perfectly impartial judge. There's always the element of peer pressure, and while I think I do a good job of avoiding it (like I said, I have no problem being the lone opposition), it does influence me to some extent.

Tony and I are alike in that we both have very high standards for FACs. I probably initially object to 90%+ of the FACs I see, and so does he. The difference between my support and Tony's support is that Tony's make or break issue is the prose. If the prose isn't up to par, he objects. For me, the make or break issue is inline citations. If I notice sections without inline citations, I object, largely without considering anything else. That isn't to say that prose isn't important to me, and I know that citations are important to Tony too, but our #1 priorities are different.

I wouldn't worry too much about the whole Wikiproject mass voting issue (it's inevitable with Wikiprojects, and the good that these Wikiprojects do far outweighs any harm, if there actually is any). Just continue to show people that are you are willing to accept objections and work through them, and encourage editors within the wikiproject not to challenge other voters except in exceptional cases. Most of the time, the FAC regulars are quick to point out invalid votes, and too often, those with an interest in the article or its subject matter feel that they must defend their support vote by questioning someone else's objection. This is especially true of those with little FAC experience, because they've never seen my demands or Tony's demands before, even though we have consistently made them on scores of FACs over the past months.

Hope this helps. Keep up the good work! --Spangineer^[es] (háblame) 21:17, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Satyajit

Hi, I was on a break and couldn't write the summary you asked for. Sorry. Is it still required?--ppm 04:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks!

Thanks for voting! Hello Ambuj.Saxena/Archive 4, and thank you so much for voting in my recent RfA. I am pleased to inform you that it passed with a final tally of (119/1/3), into the WP:100, so I have now been cleared for adminship and will soon be soaring above the clouds. I was overjoyed, shocked, and humbled by the tally, and, most importantly, all the support. Thank you. If there is ever anything you need, you know where you can find me. Take care.

--Pilot|guy 22:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello Ambuj.Saxena, and thanks for voting in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of (68/19/3). I appreciated your comments, which I hope to take on board in order to gain your respect in my work as an administrator. Best of luck in your continued editing of the encyclopedia! Sam Vimes 17:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Your user page

I am tempted to put a infobox on your userpage...but I refrain. :) Why don't you take a look at User:Sam Vimes page and add a infobox. That will make it complete. - Ganeshk (talk) 18:41, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Great. I am on. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:44, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks good. It's missing categories. Took liberty and added one. :) - Ganeshk (talk) 20:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

As you are at it, add a sound file (you are good at it). - Ganeshk (talk) 20:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

That will take a month....I don't have a mike here back home. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:11, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I meant a sound file for your name pronunciation. - Ganeshk (talk) 14:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I know that. But without mike, anything is impossible. Thanks for the category. The categories I had were removed with the userboxes. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

The infobox is awesome! -- Samir धर्म 06:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Sssh!

Don't say aloud that admins don't have power! We'll find it difficult to get new recruits to do the donkey's work we are doing ;-). Seriously, I can't stop laughing when I keep getting messages from n00bs asking me for my "permission" or "approval" to do something. --Gurubrahma 18:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Webster Nomination

Hi! I responded to your objection on the webster page but your objections about the lead remain slightly fuzzy to me. Would you mind clarifying and responding to my other comments?TonyJoe 19:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, I think I might have been a bit i don't know, curt, earlier and I don't respond well to criticism and I like to argue, sorry about that. I went through the article and removed points about "Webster's Eloquence" "and masterful uses" and the like. In addition to this I dealt with things you yourself pointed out to me; "widely respected throughout the community" has had an inline citation added to it, as has the claim of Ebenezer's regret at not being educated fueling his desire to educate Daniel. "Though poor and uneducated" remains but I justify the "dramatization" by using the uneducated clause to establish the aforementioned regret and the poor part to establish the ever present money woes in both websters' life. I hope these changes and the others I've made without specific prompting are satisfactory and that you would at least be willing to reconsider your position. If not, thank you for considering the article. TonyJoe 03:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Velociraptor

Fixed one of your requests on the article, also commented to the rest. Would like to here from you. Thanks, Spawn Man 23:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I just noticed you fixed the number & no spacing &ndsh things for me. I had no idea what to do. Thanks a lot! Spawn Man 05:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I just placed rationale on the picture's pages. I hope this is what you're looking for. I feel I've dealt with all your requests & I hope you can now support. Thanks, Spawn Man 05:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I removed the "problem" picture & another user replaced it with another photo which has passed all your requirements. I sincerly hope you would be able to support now, but if you feel more needs to be done, don't hesitate to say what... Thanks a lot... Spawn Man 23:19, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower ^háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

George W. Bush PR

Hi Ambuj - I wonder if I could interest you in checking out this article, as I need all the help I can get in making it an FA. Please do check it out. Rama's Arrow 20:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

hi

Hi—stressed with work deadline. I'll try to look later. Tony 01:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Stub sorting

Ambuj, Can you please tell me what provision the bot violated? - Ganeshk (talk) 06:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Iqbal FAC

Hey - I've started Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Muhammad Iqbal. Please check it out! Rama's Arrow 01:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

$$$

Interesting to note your edit summary on this diff. Seems like the variables were reluctant to convert. ;-) -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}16:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh....never noticed that. Very, very interesting. Thanks for pointing out. I don't know how it came, but sure got me a good laugh. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)