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552d Air Control Group moved to draftspace
editThanks for your contributions to 552d Air Control Group. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.
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Advice
editThose editors who grind axes or show an obsession with the genitalia of non-binary or trans people almost inevitably end up blocked from editing Wikipedia. I encourage caution. Cullen328 (talk) 10:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm not trying to do that but can see your point. My issue was with "they" being used in the same sentence that discussed two groups and a person that used "they" pronouns. It was super confusing, I edited it to reference names where possible to clear up confusion I and others were experiencing.
- That article is a hot mess. I think I'm just going to walk away from it and take your advice and let the dust settle on that one. Much appreciated. Angrycommguy (talk) 18:20, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- You disregarded my advice and ended up page blocked. Unsurprising. Cullen328 (talk) 00:37, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Many apologies. I let my emotion get the best of me. Angrycommguy (talk) 01:44, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- You disregarded my advice and ended up page blocked. Unsurprising. Cullen328 (talk) 00:37, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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editThere is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Snokalok (talk) 23:55, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- I’m happy to help in any way I can. I believe the user Snokalok has been targeting any effort I made in the article to try and clarify who was being discussed. My edits that were targeted without justification of policy were simply to clarify the individual the arrival was about was the topic or if a group was being discussed when using the word “they” and to follow the style of the rest of the article and other articles. The subjects name should be used to avoid confusion rather than pronouns, especially when the pronouns they/their are in use. These edits were not in malice but to clarify the subject in the applicable sentence/paragraph. In fact throughout the rest of the article I left the use of they and their when referring to the individual when there was no confusion.
- It is my strong belief that I was being targeted by Snokalok because of a disagreement about another topic in the talk section. Even user @Sideswipe9th questioned the validity of Snokalok’s persistent undos on this matter. If I’m to be punished in any form then Snokalok should face the same consequence as they were doing just the same as myself.
- I want the admin team to know I was just trying to clarify who was being discussed in the article as the use of pronouns causes much confusion and was inconsistent with other articles and style of Wikipedia. Angrycommguy (talk) 00:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
February 2024
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- I will be willing to consider an unblock request when you can demonstrate you understand and will follow WP:BLPPRIVACY, MOS:GENDERID, WP:PRIMARY, and WP:OR. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:24, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Sorry @ScottishFinnishRadish I let my emotions get the best of me even after I promised @Cullen328 to move on. Quite frankly I'm embarrassed that I let it happen. I felt like Snokalok was targeting me and my edits trying to antagonize me on the page and let it get to me, I should have been the bigger person and I let you and myself down. I wanted to thank you and Cullen328 for giving me what is essentially a third chance and wanted to personally apologize to you both and let you know it will not happen again. If it does, please do perma-ban me, but I assure you it won't happen again as I plan to just stick to my boring military and history articles along with the clean-up I like doing. I hope you both have a good weekend and sorry for any stress I caused you and the admin team. Thanks for all that you do.
- -Kertis Angrycommguy (talk) 01:14, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing boring at all about history, it's my go to subject here most times I edit anymore. I've been in a similar position and I personally prefer staying away from those contentious areas now. Here is to wishing you success in those other areas, I'd avoid this one and that crowd until you reestablish your bona fides. FWIW the apology above coupled with follow through is all we can ask of any editor in my humble opinion. If there is anyway I can help you (I'm not admin, I'm an editor like you), I'd sure like to try. Unbroken Chain (talk) 15:31, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks that really means a lot. In hindsight there is a lot of toxicity in those sorts of articles all around and I'll be joining you in staying away from them. Just like with history we learn best from our mistakes. Cheers @Unbroken Chain! Angrycommguy (talk) 21:34, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing boring at all about history, it's my go to subject here most times I edit anymore. I've been in a similar position and I personally prefer staying away from those contentious areas now. Here is to wishing you success in those other areas, I'd avoid this one and that crowd until you reestablish your bona fides. FWIW the apology above coupled with follow through is all we can ask of any editor in my humble opinion. If there is anyway I can help you (I'm not admin, I'm an editor like you), I'd sure like to try. Unbroken Chain (talk) 15:31, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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