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Over the last six months, this page has undergone considerable revisions, as part of the BNCBC bicentenary history project.

These revisions have included removal of various factual errors; addition of substantial detail on the early boat club; completion of a definitive list of Henley winning crews; improvements to the readbility of the text; and numerous references.

In light of the above, might I suggest that the box requesting improvements to the page (which was put there in December 2010) is no longer warranted?

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I have some sympathy - see my user page for my academic history - but you really ought to abide by the rules here Philip Trueman (talk) 09:13, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Please see my note on the Philip Trueman user talk page. I am the official historian of the Brasenose College Boat Club, and am curently writing the history of BNCBC for the 1815-2015 bicentenary. The edits to the Wikipedia page are based on short extracts from the manuscript currently in preparation.

Somehow I seem to have put my first message to you on your user page not here on your talk page. That was a mistake, and I apologise. I've moved both message and reply here - your user page is for you to say something about yourself and your aims on Wikipedia.

There are several difficulties here. Your username is an issue because it indicates that you are posting to Wikipedia in an official capacity, not as an individual. That is against Wikipedia policy - see WP:ISU. Look at it this way: if you handed your duties to a successor, would you expect him or her to continue posting to Wikipedia using the same account? You would? That's not allowed here.

Secondly, you seem to have misunderstood the purpose of Wikipedia. It isn't a repository for historical accounts, no matter how well researched. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It's a tertiary source. Articles should cite published secondary sources. (If only primary sources exist, that would be taken as an indication that the subject isn't sufficiently notable.)

Thirdly, you have a clear conflict of interest here - see WP:COI. That isn't allowed, and I hope it is obvious why it shouldn't be. It would harm Wikipedia's reputation for reliability.

As I've said, I have some sympathy with your aims. As you are doubtless aware, the rowing histories of our two colleges go back a long way. But there are rules here. If you do get your account written up and published then it would be fine for someone else to cite it as a reference in the Wikipedia article. If you wish to continue editing Wikipedia articles, and I hope you do, then I suggest you apply for a change of username, and familiarise yourself with policies such as WP:COI, WP:OWN, WP:V, WP:CITE and so on. Philip Trueman (talk) 21:31, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

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Hello David,

It does not represent a role. I was at Brasenose College (BNC) and I write rowing history. It is as simple as that. I am one of a number of writers who write on a range of topics for Hear The Boat Sing, which is a well known rowing blog run out of the US. I am probably the foremost historian of 17th and 18th cetnury rowing, which has nothing to do with Brasenose College.

Yours,

Your submission at Articles for creation: William Tucker Lindesay-Bethune, 14th Earl of Lindsay (January 8)

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 08:51, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:William Tucker Lindesay-Bethune, 14th Earl of Lindsay

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Lapablo (talk) 12:35, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:William Tucker Lindesay-Bethune, 14th Earl of Lindsay. Thanks! —C.Fred (talk) 16:01, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:William Tucker Lindesay-Bethune, 14th Earl of Lindsay

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:38, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

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 Thank you. Orange Mike | Talk 18:59, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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Request reason:

This was dealt with in 2015!!!!!! Really!

Decline reason:

I'm not sure I agree that it was dealt with, more like it was unaddressed. If you are(or were) "official historian of the Brasenose College Boat Club", this could be seen as a role account. I too think you should change your name. As such, I endorse Orangemike's action, and decline your request. 331dot (talk) 21:52, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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Re ping Orangemike. 331dot (talk) 21:53, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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Request reason:

It seems people cannot distinguish between BNCBC Historian and BNCBCHistory. I am not claiming a role as I am not saying I am the BNCBC Historian, I am merely stating I was in the BNC Boat Club and I like history.

Decline reason:

This is not truthful; "I am the official historian of the Brasenose College Boat Club," Yamla (talk) 10:37, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

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I've reformatted your request since you are not proposing a new username. 331dot (talk) 22:08, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Above you stated "I am the official historian of the Brasenose College Boat Club,". 331dot (talk) 22:10, 26 April 2021 (UTC)