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Camino Chronicle

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Camino Chronicle, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. 68.239.79.97 23:35, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Richmond - Windows to the Past

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Richmond - Windows to the Past, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. 68.239.79.97 23:35, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

We're in the Mountains Not over the Hill

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article We're in the Mountains Not over the Hill, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. 68.239.79.97 23:35, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Current AfD

As the author of these articles, you owe it to yourself to participate in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camino Chronicle ... that way you can't say that you were "out of the loop" on this one. —68.239.79.97 (talk · contribs) 16:20, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

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Links for Way of St. James

WP is an encyclopedia, and therefore cannot possibly accommodate all the commercial links and ads for books that people wish to place in the article. For a few of those that have been removed, see Talk:Way of St. James/Links. We have to remove these or else the article will quickly deteriorate into a worthless mass of commercial lobbying. Articles which are not zealously guarded on WP do become worthless very quickly because of this kind of excessive linking to commercial sites.--Filll 15:43, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm here almost a year later about the same issue on another article. Please don't keep adding http://backpack45.com to articles. If the site has worthwhile information then the best thing would be to add that info to the encyclopedia itself.   Will Beback  talk  21:38, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

My general response to Wikipedia deletes above

I think the Susan Alcorn - writer, author articles and her various books were one of the first things I added to Wikipedia, and I was not as aware of the need for citations as I should have been. I did supply some at a later date, but by then the delete juggernaut was rolling and it is hard to stop. I made no attempt to disguise my identity. I still feel that those were all valid entries - two award winning books, one nationally recognized, a book written many years ago that is still being cited by historians today, though out of print. My guess is some Wikipedian who was a fan of Susan Alcorn - musician decided that they didn't want another Susan Alcorn. But I only have a limited amount of time and not enough for a Wikipedia battle.

There has been wholesale pruning of the entire Way of St. James/Camino de Santiago topic, with either lack of knowledge or an agenda on the part of those who are consolidating/pruning. I've added a number of things to the Camino de Santiago article over the years, one of which was our book, but a number of other books and sources of information that are considered worthwhile by the various confraternities and other respected sources. On the backpack45 link that was deleted, I doubt that it was www.backpack45.com as was stated. It was probably www.backpack45.com/camino2.html - it might have been camino2p2.html or 2p3 or 2p4 - all of which contain information of importance for those walking the various pilgrimage routes to Santiago, and do not have a commercial message.

It is quite impossible to just include the contents of a link on Wikipedia as a purger on Wikipedia suggested. The information in the linked web pages is new information, and Wikipedia requires citations. You can find links to the backpack45 Camino pages on the Confraternity of St. James links pages.

This is fairly discouraging. We have been providing pilgrim information since 2003, and for several years were the primary English language source of information. I spent a fair amount of time putting good information into the Camino de Santiago entry. I don't mind being edited out if the editor can say "this link is providing more authoritative information" but I do object if the editor's level of discernment is "the website name ends in .com so it must be commercial" or "I don't know this book and the author isn't listed in Wikipedia so it can't be a valid reference". How can one possibly say that Memoirs of a Medieval Woman: the Life and Times of Margery Kempe by Louise Collis is not a valid Camino de Santiago reference?

I visit Wikipedia maybe once or twice a year and it is a shock when I discover that something I put a lot of effort into has been deleted without letting me know. I will find some information about it on my page, but since I am not a Wikipedia regular, I don't know when my page is updated. It would be helpful if Wikipedia had a function to automatically email an alert to someone when their user name page is updated. Since you have gotten this far, you could at least go to the toolbox on your left and dash off an alert. I would like to get into the delete discussions on a timely basis. I value the function of Wikipedia, but I simply do not have the time to monitor it on a regular basis. It has the demands of a social networking site.

• • • Thank you Will BeBack for telling me about the email options in preferences. Now I am setup to be notified on changes to my watch pages. If I ever get back to editing the Camino de Santiago/Way of St. James pages, which I plan to eventually, I can discuss the changes in real time and not let these wild misconceptions get going ***Backpack45scb (talk) 03:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Re the Camino of Santiago now forwarded to The Way of St. James article, I don't know if you are aware that there are factions in the pilgrim community, and some of these appear to influencing the editing. About 50% of the people who now walk the Camino de Santiago are doing it for religious purposes. The remainder are doing it for spiritual or other reasons. Those walking it for other than religious reasons rarely refer to it as the Way of St. James. Initially the Wikipedia article on The Way of St. James reflected more the religious community view, and the Camino de Santiago article the more secular community view. The consolidation of these two articles represents a victory of the religious community over what they regard as a less valid purpose. This same division is being played out in the various pilgrim organizations around the world. In general, the secular view is being displaced, even though the pilgrim community is 50-50. I don't have too much quarrel with that. After all, the Camino de Santiago is a significant part of Christian history, and one needs to appreciate that irregardless of faith.

I do think that Wikipedia should try to be neutral without supporting one faction or another, and the consolidation of these two articles is a failure of that neutrality. Having no knowledge of who the editors are, I presume that they are people who earn their living as professional theologians of one sort or another. Could that be considered a commercial interest? That's a rhetorical question. Backpack45scb (talk) 15:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

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