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Hello, Write any question or suggestion you have and I will answer you back here.

However, to keep this page clean, I will delete discussions that are over a week old,

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Need help on Categories

What would be good Categories for my article Letter to Posterity that was written by Petrarch in 1372?

767 E-door

What you are referring to in the boeing PDF is an option that can be ordered at the time the aircraft is built. It's not something that can be added later. Akradecki 13:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Air Canada 777 Order

Air Canada will have 17 777s in fleet, 16 are AC's and 1 77W is leased.

That means, there are 10 77W's on order, plus 1 on lease, total 77Ws = 11, and 6 77L's.

I don't know where you got this info. from that AC will have 16 777s in fleet.

AC website shows 11 77Ws and 6 77Ls, total = 17. FlyAirCanada 20:07, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

The one 77W that is on lease was delivered last week.FlyAirCanada 22:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

To reinforce what FlyAirCanada has posted above. The leased 77W MSN 35298 C-FITW from ILFC is delivered and in service. See [1] . As to the mix of 77W and 77L, your guess is as good as mine. I believe the contract allowed AC to vary the aircraft mix, so the Boeing numbers may, in fact, be correct - i.e. 8 and 8. I doubt that we will see updated numbers respecting the mix from AC anytime soon. Regards --Rosetown 23:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

So the fleet table should show 9 77W's and 8 77L's now, right? FlyAirCanada 19:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

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Boeing images

Just wanted to let you know that as far as I saw, the images you just uploaded (787-S7.jpg and 787-RJ.jpg) are copyrighted by Boeing, so you won't be able to license them under GFDL. Seeing as how they are on a media-oriented website, you may be able to get away with {{promotional}}, as long as the image is considered non-replaceable. For the time being, I've removed the GFDL tags, and replaced them with {{no license}}. Since you know more about the site you got them from, could you please update the copyright status? If I'm wrong, and they are in fact GFDL, feel free to revert. Thanks! tiZom_(2¢) 05:54, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

So whats the best way to go about this?

I think you know more than I do. These are from Boeing press releases. They are given to the media and the public. It is fine to use them. So what should I put them under?--Bangabalunga 05:57, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead and add this to all the images that you're adding. It covers copyright and Fair Use rationale, so it should do the trick:

==Summary==
{{Non-free media rationale
| Description       = Photo of <!--Name and model number--> 
| Source            = <!--website-->, <br/> © [[Boeing]]
| Portion           = 
| Resolution        = Yes
| Purpose           = Depict airplane model
| Replaceability    = Not replaceable <br/>
*It is almost impossible to take a photo of an airplane while in flight
*Airport restrictions prevent photography of airplanes while on ground
| other_information = Fair Use for the following article(s):
* [[<!--Article name-->]]
}}

==Licensing==
{{promotional}}

Be sure to fill out the three fields, as they vary among your images. Let me know if you have any questions. :o) tiZom_(2¢) 06:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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Image:787-ETH.jpg

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Image:787-MO.jpg

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Image:787-VIT.jpg

I have tagged Image:787-VIT.jpg as {{orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. If this image is being used as a link target instead of displayed inline, please add {{not orphan}} to the image description page to prevent it being accidentally marked as orphaned again. Rory096 14:27, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

The images violate fair use criteria 3a and 8. 8 specifically disallows galleries of fair use images. The image content was not discussed in the text, and did not contribute a significant amount to the article. They are promotional images that Boeing allows private, non-commercial use of (see [2]), yes, but they aren't under a free license, and they're certainly not under the GFDL. Please remove the false copyright tags on the images. --Rory096 14:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Vought trip

Hey Marcus! Looks like they are getting after you on image tagging. Any news/updates on the Vought trip in August? Thanks. Jeff/Fnlayson 21:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Reedy boy changes

Marcus, it looks likes he's changing ALL the airliner tables, including Airbus and CRJ. - BillCJ 22:41, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I dont see what the point of it is. It is not improving the article. Its very superficial. I will change the CRJ as well. Do you agree?--Bangabalunga 22:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree. If he goes back and does it again, we'll try to engage him in a discussion on WT:AIR. If he won't discuss or refuses to back down, we can talk to Alan and get his advice/help. - BillCJ 22:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Nice to see people just talking about it behind your back... My reasoning was that there was no real standard format, and the colours didnt really fit in. Simplifying the formatting reduces the un-necessary page load... Reedy Boy 12:20, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

• It's nice to see users who make wholesale changes to articles they do not edit without the consideration of approaching the regulars editors on that page, or approaching them in any way to discuss such changes before making them. When you exhibit such basic cortesies, the need to discuss what to do about your actions "behind your back" will disappear. - BillCJ 16:42, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I do edit the articles, and have had them on my watchlist for a while, making the odd change here and there. Granted, i dont do most of the work like yourself and Fnlayson and such do, but its not like i've never made any changes on them before. Reedy Boy 18:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Its just weird you reverted some of my changes and no them all, and the fact you didnt actually tell me on my talk page/try and discuss it directly with me... Im not going to get into a revert war about it, there is no point. Reedy Boy 12:20, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

• Doesn't matter much to me. Most of the Boeing tables were fairly standard with yellow on the first row. It would have helped if you added "standardize" in your edit summaries. -Fnlayson 16:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

The reason all were not reverted is that the other ones were not the yellow types. I always set the goal to convert them to yellow but never get a chance. Several editors about several months back decided we would go with the yellow tables. They are easier to read and neater with individual cells. Thats all. Nothing personal. As with not placing a word on your TALK page, if you remember about 7-9 months back you went around eliminating colspans on all spec sheets. I asked you why are you eliminating colspans but you never got back to me. That edit I let stand, I said whatever and moved on. But yesterdays edits are really not improving the page so I reverted.--Bangabalunga 17:42, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

For the colspan comment, i dont ever remember doing that. There is nothing in my user talk page log, and nothing in my archive. And i dont delete messages, good or bad. So, i think you are getting me confused with someone else. Reedy Boy 18:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:A350-Air-Lingus.jpg

I have tagged Image:A350-Air-Lingus.jpg as {{orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. If this image is being used as a link target instead of displayed inline, please add {{not orphan}} to the image description page to prevent it being accidentally marked as orphaned again. MER-C 12:26, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

• Image added to Airbus A350. Move it around there if needed. -Fnlayson 18:04, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
  • You mean move all 4 images to A350 main page to save them from being orphaned?--Bangabalunga 18:05, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
    • No, 1 image as in the Air Lingus one mentioned directly above. -Fnlayson 18:09, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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A350-900R?

Marcus, could you take a look at my reversions here? It was unsourced, so I don't regret taking it out, but I just wanted to see if you had heard anything about the A350-900R. Is it the same type of situation with the 787-1000, or is it not even that far ahead? - BillCJ 01:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Great Job Bill. A350-900R was first reported by Flight International last year as a variant that may one day be produced. EIS is 2016 if ever launched. There is nothing else on this plane. Not worth mentioning at all. It is the same thing as the 787-10 but even less so as not even Leahy talks about it. There are no specs of any kind except for a guestimate range of 9,500nm. A350 has three official variants and nothing else, I would have reverted as well. --Bangabalunga 03:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

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Replaceable fair use Image:787_range.jpg

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Hello

Haven't seen you edit in a little while. Hope you're doing well. Take care. :) -Fnlayson 04:47, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

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