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Im sorry I have no Idea about what di you talking about, my job here in wikipedia is reverting vandalism, thats what I do, look, compare from the first time I edited http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Melbourne&oldid=273843272 the earliest version http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Melbourne&oldid=273816293, I only restored the removed section of Culture thats existed before I edited, I arranged and organized images too with appropriate image like for example in Governments section, I placed the Town Hall picture of Melbourne, and in the Economy section I placed the Melbourne central business district; so that revert you made is only a revert from a vandalised version that has no longer an existing section of Culture. Please dont revert without reason as there is none. I ve only restored and organized. thank you. DutchSupremacy (talk) 07:08, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Nothing is poorly done by me, I ve added apropriate images and restored the Culture section thats exist before user Biatch edits; I ve not accused anyone, what I have done to the article is not poor, I ve added images to sections and restored the removed Culture section, thats all; amically. DutchSupremacy (talk) 07:22, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

And where is the Culture section

Why is the culture section removed ? its exist long time ago. DutchSupremacy (talk) 07:27, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Bidgee River

Cheers for helping mate. Gee I had a good day today driving to the source - I hope you liked the three photos I uploaded?--VS ^talk 11:52, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Dick Smith (retailer)

Perhaps it's worthy of a redirect back to Dick Smith Electronics? - Longhair\^talk 09:51, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah nothing special required there I feel. Just redirect. It's a valid likely search term. -- Longhair\^talk 09:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean?

Sorry what do you mean about being civil? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lonelygirl16 (talk • contribs) 08:59, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

• I think this user is JRG/INTGAFW.- Loserman16 (talk) 08:14, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I think the other user was being slack to other people's opinions. my comment was sensible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lonelygirl16 (talk • contribs) 08:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Component charts

Please do not revert my edits without an explanation. WP:CHARTS states "Billboard component charts should not be used in the tables, unless the song fails to enter the main chart, but appears on an airplay or sales chart.". This song went number-one on the Billboard Charts. So there is no need for the Hot Digital Songs. 58.164.231.129 (talk) 05:55, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Reverts

Hello. I have only made two reverts to that article and am trying to explain my point of view to the other editor and come to a consensus . Adam (talk) 06:17, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Adam

Adam's a law unto himself alone who couldn't give a whatever to policy and wikipedia norms. Unless there is more administrator support then I'm backing out because with me it is personal for him - any edit I make that concerns him he takes as a personal slight to which he retaliates (ie, look at the Dee Why page today). Anyway, there are more important articles than Sydney suburb articles.--Merbabu (talk) 06:22, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Well it should never become personal. I'll be keeping a watch over the Sydney and New South Wales articles hoping that the two of you sort the issue out. Bidgee (talk) 06:35, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

For me it is nothing personal. I have reverted my own edits as to not upset the other editor as I could see the distress that it was causing, not that the other would do the same. . Adam (talk) 06:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Hadiqaah

Perhaps we were a bit rash in blanket reverting Hadiqaah. His most recent post on my talk page suggests he was acting in good faith and is looking to work together - and perhaps not all the additions were poor. Maybe we could look at resurrecting some of it. --Merbabu (talk) 08:55, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

174.34.161.0/24

Range blocked by PeterSymonds now, thanks for all the help in reverting user page vandalism by the anons, cheers Spitfire^Tally-ho! 08:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Weather

If it's dry here I can't imagine how dry it is on the mainland. :( On the weekend, these tourists at Wineglass Bay, said "Since when does the sun shine in Tasmania". What do you mainlanders hear about us? It's not always windy and miserable. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 11:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Yer Tassie has done poorly rainfall wise over the Summer. Really though Tassie's weather is the same as the southern Victorian coastline (IE: It's not a gloomy as they say it is). Bidgee (talk) 11:16, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

So do I. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 11:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Yep agree with you. Looks like the article needs a bit of a cleanup. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 11:15, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Unless you go down to the West Coast (or Hobart, although doesn't rain there a lot, just lots of drizzle). Was in southern QLD for Christmas 07/08, for 14 days and it rained everyday. So much for the "Sunshine". Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 11:31, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

2009 southeastern Queensland oil spill

Sorry, I didn't see the message template prior to your comment. Go for it :] Nick carson (talk) 08:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Bubble Tea!

Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} has given you a bubble tea! Bubble teas promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a bubble tea, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy drinking!

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That's no good! Hopefully you get better soon. ;) Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 05:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Ford F-Series

The picture you added to the 80-86 section is wrong. Here is a 1980. You added a picture of the previous generation. Look at the picture in the infobox of the sixth generation. JoshMcCracken (talk) 01:51, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Heads up - responses

I hope you may have seen my responses detailing actions; following your post, at Pat's page?--VS ^talk 00:55, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Apologies for misapplied block

I'm sorry, I blocked you from editing a few hours ago, which was an error. I have removed the block, of course. I had meant to target an anonymous vandal, and I don't know how it landed on you instead. --Kbh3^rdtalk 01:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Oh dear - now I understand why you have been quiet these past few hours. Damn Bidgee that makes you one of maybe only a handful of wikipedians (in fact I don't know of anyone else) who has never been officially blocked - but have two blocks in error on your record. Not sure whether you are laughing or crying at the moment?--VS ^talk 01:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Unfairly blocked!

I left a message on Kbh3rd's page but have also tried to remove the autoblock for you myself. Try now Bidgee.--VS ^talk 05:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Still blocked. Bidgee (talk) 05:26, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

That should have it.--VS ^talk 05:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Now unblocked but I'm now not impressed to have the block log looking like how it is now. Bidgee (talk) 05:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't blame you for thinking so Bidgee - hence my attempt to make jest about it above. Unfortunately if I had noted at the time that Kbh3rd had not removed the autoblock I would have dealt with it earlier. For what it's worth I have made a suitable notation at the block log. Can I help in some other way?--VS ^talk 05:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I just wished that the developers got around to adding a blocklog removal tool because why should those who really have clean record have it blackened even if there maybe a note(s) stating that they were errors, unfair blocks ect? Can someone delete were it shows my IP in the history. Bidgee (talk) 05:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• A difficult one because of previous selective deletions - but I think that might be it now?--VS ^talk 06:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
  • I think thats it. Thanks for that. Must say I can't remember why there is past deletions. Bidgee (talk) 06:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
    • My pleasure - will ping you on the previous deletions.--VS ^talk 06:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd be fairly angry if I was Bidgee. Unlucky for it to happen again! Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 08:04, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

It's fairly unacceptable for an admin. Sometimes, someone would just take a quick glance at your block log and get the wrong impression. Which you obviously wouldn't want. I sometimes wonder why I bother as well. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 20:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Sent you an email. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

So what's the difference?

In the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighter , you can see numerous links to different sites with EMT/Firefighter related news. But for some reason, won't you accept globalfirehouse.com - which like all the other pages post firefighter related news?

So what's the difference? Does the other sites pay you? :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.184.19.191 (talk) 14:09, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

FYI I do not get paid by anyone nor do I have any connections to those websites. I have a few issues with that site, one is that it's a forum (Yes the home page has news from outside sources [bbc, AP ect] but that can't be used as a reason to add it), The site if very new having been created (the domain name) on the 12 of March this year also your IP is from the same country as to whom its registered to and if it happened to be your website then you can't add it. When ever I get free time I will be taking a look at those other links to make sure they suit WP:EL. Bidgee (talk) 14:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

--90.184.19.191 (talk) 14:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

- Thank you Bidgee, I understand and respect that - but I would recommend you telling people why you remove it, in the beginning - cause it didn't make much sense for me. Again, thanks and have a nice weekend. --90.184.19.191 (talk) 14:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Barassi Line

The Barassi Line reflects cultural distinctions that arose well before Federation. In the 19th century, there were seven Australasian colonies: five on the Australian mainland plus Tasmania and New Zealand. The fact that six of those colonies would later form a federation is not relevant to the origins of the Sydney=Rugby / Melbourne=Aussie Rules split, so I don't see why it should be treated with such nationalistic rigidity now.

If the article is about Australia and not New Zealand, shouldn't we delete the reference to the Auckland Warriors? No, because the article is not about Australia, it is about the Barassi Line, and the presence of the Auckland Warriors in the National Rugby League indicates that its relevance does not stop at Australia's shores. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macquarie (talk • contribs) 04:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Barassi Line is a border within Australia not New Zealand. The Warriors in the ARL is about where the ARL set-up four new clubs in the mid 90s and just becuase it's there doesn't mean that NZ was or is part of the Barassi Line. Bidgee (talk) 04:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Is New Zealand east of the Barassi line or not? If it is, then the rugby codes dominate. Either that and its completely irrelevant. Besides, the Warriors are only there to illustrate the background to expansion over the Line. Mdw0 (talk) 07:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

New Zealand would have to be well east of the line since only NRL and Rugby Union is played there professionally, so it would really make New Zealand completely irrelevant and haven't heard of AFL being played there let along having it's own team. Bidgee (talk) 07:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

But does the nature of its sport confirm the Line or is it irrelevant? Interesting. Mdw0 (talk) 00:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

It would confirm use to have some truth to it but now it would be a broken up line. Barassi Line would still work by showing up the divides of NRL and AFL but really fails when it comes to Rugby since there is a Rugby team in Perth but it does have a AFL team. Darwin however is really just AFL and not NRL or Rugby Union. So you could say it's hard to confirm the Line is relevant or irrelevant in todays world. Back in the 70s, 80s and early 90s (up until the mid 90s) the line would have been relevant. Bidgee (talk) 01:50, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

The line doesn't exclude the opposite code, it just signifies entrenched dominance of one over the other. The only way it could fail in Perth is if rugby was the dominant code, aand its not, so the Line works there. Same with the NT - its on the AFL side. Those clubs on the wrong side remain somewhat artificial, in that the majority of their players and even fans are from the other side of the Line. The Line is still relevant with regards to the additional amount a sport has to do to win over fans of a new club on the wrong side of the line. The code has to attract fans not just to the new club but to the sport. Mdw0 (talk) 02:51, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar notice

		The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
		For great work nominating images for FFD when they don't meet policy. Stifle (talk) 10:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Thank you for the Copyright Cleanup Barnstar

Thanks. :) I thought I'll look at some of the articles to see what ones still had copyrighted images which really didn't need to be there. Also I need some help. In the Today (Australia) article do you think those images should go? I'm thinking the first one (first episode) and the second (Current Today team) should be tagged but sort of iffy. Bidgee (talk) 12:25, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I concur. They are used decoratively only and as such fail WP:NFCC#8. Stifle (talk) 14:28, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

March 2009

Thank you for the kind welcome. -Sticks66 12:47, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

BTW congrats at your adminship at Commons

I meant to pass on my congratulations a day or two ago with regards your successful adminship at Commons but then my Bigpond (and I think half of Eastern Australia) went AWOL for a couple of days. Anyway rather than be belated with a message there - please accept my compliments here. An excellent result in my opinion.--VS ^talk 06:51, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

A bit belated because I haven't been on for a while, but congrats :) Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 09:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I guess you're a bit busy of late? I've been having fun trying to route my HTTP server online but the ADSL modem just will not do it and just keeps loading the modems config page. It's complicated on how I've done it as the ADSL modem is connected to my wireless router (Via Ethernet) with my PC's (2 of them) via WiFi and the HTTP server is connected to the wireless router. Bidgee (talk) 12:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Australia

There has been two cycles of removal and reversion and the editor is no closer to explaining what his rationale is for removing cited content. Given that the content is cited and doesn't appear (to me at least) to be grossly inappropriate to require immediate removal, the best course of action is to maintain the status-quo, let him raise his objections there, and address them if they are reasonable. At this stage, he has not made the reasons for his objections clear. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 07:04, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Cairns, Queensland

Thankyou for threatening me with a ban.

The original was version looked like this [1], but an anon user 83.80.128.161 changed it to this version [2], which is similar to the current version, without including any citations for the change. The latest Macquarie Dictionary does not use the /kæːnz/ transcription but uses the /kænz/ transcription. I have also stated on Talk:Cairns, Queensland, that linguist generally transcribe [æ] and [æː] as /æ/. Please read the talk page and look up the town's pronunciation in the Macquarie Dictionary. Please don't blindly revert before doing some fact checking. --203.94.135.134 (talk) 02:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Bit of a problem

In the structures and facilities section in the York Park article, it says the Gunns Stand originally had a capacity of 2,500 and was increased to 6,000 after a 2005 extension. The $12.5 million Gunns stand now has two corporate box areas. These figures were covered in an article that now doesn't work so I had to deleted it so there isn't currently any references for this statement. I emailed manger Robert Groenewegen and he confirmed that the Gunns Stand has a capacity of 6,000 and I've seen it in the local newspaper before. Because there isn't a reference does it mean that those figures have to be deleted even though the figures are probably correct? Bit of a pain aye! Thanks Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 23:57, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I wish I could help you. I'm a bit busy in real life and putting up with this BS ATM. I'm really not far off from leaving Wikipedia (Like YM), Just seems to be getting taken over by morons in anon IP's and I just don't have the time or mood to deal with it. I'll rather put up with Commons ATM. Bidgee (talk) 05:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Hopefully you don't end up leaving Wikipedia. I don't really even bother to participate in discussions anymore so I don't need to worry about all the BS that goes on here. When I do contribute it's mainly on articles and article discussion pages, not the other wikipedia related stuff. At least YM appeared on my watchlist the other day. The sad thing is that the newcomers get hand fed even if they are vandalising pages. If you or I even started to criticize their contribs, we would get shot down from all angles and treated like the enemy. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 06:33, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

List of Shows

The list of shows I added for the 2SSR article are made publically available to all. They should be allowed to stand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan jones (talk • contribs) 03:15, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but Wikipedia is not a directory nor a place for listing/advertising shows therefor the list does not belong here. Secondly you copied content which is copyrighted, just because it's on a a website doesn't mean you can copy and paste since 2SSR's content is clearly marked as copyrighted. Bidgee (talk) 03:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Great minds think alike!

Regarding this edit, the same thought occurred to me!
The reason I'm writing, however, is that I can't verify any of "Wannagomepunk"'s contribution, and I can only verify half of the original addition. Your thoughts?
Also, I notice on the corporate pages they now refer to themselves as "Canberra Airport". Ho hum.
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 04:15, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Yer well I knew that Tony Snow wasn't the owner after reading a news story about the road duplication to the airport online. ;) With the edits made by the user they could be right but I've not yet read the news stories at The Canberra Times or on Google News. I've also noted the International term has been dropped. Bidgee (talk) 04:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Did the story mention who the owner of CIA P/L is? Pdfpdf (talk) 04:48, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

"With the edits made by the user they could be right" - Yeah, but given the sloppiness of the Snow comment, they may only be half right. And I can't work out where the original IP editor got their info from ...

Thanks for the URLs; I'll look at them this evening. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 04:48, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

(P.S. Do you mind if I copy your archive box? Pdfpdf (talk) 04:50, 12 April 2009 (UTC) )

More interesting reading[3]. You can copy the archive box as it's just one that I based off the article talk pages. :) Bidgee (talk) 05:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is interesting reading! Thanks. Pdfpdf (talk) 05:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

BTW:

• Hansard is even more interesting, and doesn't contain the errors that are in the "c-r-imes" story.
• CPC (Capital Property Corp) is the Snow family investment vehicle - it has more fingers in more pies than I have fingers on my hands - and is owned by "vehicles" owned by the Snow clan - particularly (according to ASIC) Terry and his brother George, but Stephen Byron also "holds interests".
• So what? Well, apparently both CIA P/L AND CPG P/L are wholey owned subsidiaries of CPC! (Nah, there's no conflict of interest. (Excuse me, I'm having a coughing spasm.))

But for me, the needle in the haystack is, although the Canberra Airport website says CIA P/L owns the lease, and CPG P/L manage the airport, the receipt for payment of the lease was made out to, wait for it, CPG P/L!!

And the Snow Family charity has made donations of $1.5m to charity. Yeah. Like they noticed the difference?

Obviously, if you want to get (and stay) rich in Canberra, ethics and morals are a major impediment! Pdfpdf (talk) 13:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Copyright Image

In the stadium section of the 2009 IPL Season aren't some of the images a copyright infringement. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 10:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

2009 Vic bushfire images

I'll need more time to jump through the hoops so I'd prefer it if the images weren't deleted for now. I'm sure that won't be a problem, as uploading them again would be a waste of many people's time and bandwidth. Cheers. Nick carson (talk) 13:51, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Baldness

Hey Bidgee! I am obviously a total train wreck on this site. Its so confusing for me. I am sure im not supposed to be typing here, but lord only knows where im supposed to talk to you. So fingers crossed! I used the "send this user a message" thing to send you a message yesterday, but then realized I have no idea how im supposed to find your response, if you send one. I dont see an "inbox". Anyways I hope you got the note and hope to hear back from you on it.

As a side question, the site I mentioned on the baldness page is a social networking site. Yesterday, I found this page on Wikipedia: List of Social Networking Sites. Each one links to its own page on wikipedia, and those pages link out to the site itself. Several of them are much smaller than ours is, membership-wise (18,000+). So now i am even more confused. :-P Are we allowed to have a wikipedia page for our site? Might I petition the author of the socialnetworking page to add us to that list? Again i *HATE* spammers and losers who try to get free advertising, but I've sufficiently deceived myself into believing that this free support network is worth being mentioned. So can we make our own page? I guess ill look on my "talk" page for a reply to this. You can delete my graffiti here. I apologize for the intrusion. - KRR820 (talk) <-- i just figured out how to do that!

You can't add your own person websites to Wikipedia. Please read WP:ELNO, WP:LINKSPAM and WP:COI. With the List of social networking websites I do not bother with since if I were to remove some of the non-notable sites it would just be readded by fanbois. Bidgee (talk) 01:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Canberra

Got this message this morning-

" March 2009 Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Canberra, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Bidgee (talk) 03:21, 22 March 2009 (UTC) "

..and am very confused. I've made no edits to that page, and the only other person who has access to this computer (my wife) never edits wikipedia at all. Looking throught the history page, I can't even work out what the edit *is*... Either you've got the wrong address, or someone's faked our IP address (can't imagine why they'd bother!). Dunno. Confused. Ta- Marc Pengryffyn- casual wikipedia contributor 09:24 15 Apr 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.9.138.157 (talk) 23:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Most likely the IP you're editing from is a shared IP (A proxy) or a dynamic IP (IE: Everytime you connect to the internet you're given a new IP). Bidgee (talk) 01:17, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Bidgee - there has been an update to the Canberra article (population) which needs to be reverted. Rather than me undoing, I thought you might want to revert it back to your last clean version. Thanks. MartinL-585 (talk) 00:13, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Australia

Nice to see somebody is sitting in the background keeping a level head.[4] :) --AussieLegend (talk) 11:14, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

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Elton John Concert Image

How should I upload it? Without it getting deleted.? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 00:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your detailed response. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 03:02, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Contrversy on Nova 100.

I'm sorry for adding controversy on Nova 100. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PK2 (talk • contribs) 22:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

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"Wind Turbine Syndrome"

The edits to wind turbine you reverted were actually somewhat supported by the first link. I don't think that this is necessarily a good source or well established fact but the link in the edit summary does directly support what was added. The second source seems to be a dead link. I'm new here, this revert was probably a good call but wanted to make sure that you noticed this. Tspine (talk) 17:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Phar Lap

Hi Bidgee. Thanks for your support. I also put a comment on Josette's page. Wallie (talk) 13:46, 29 April 2009 (UTC)