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Link spam

This message is regarding the page Jessica Alba. Please do not add commercial links—or links to your own private websites—to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. Note that Wikipedia may see print or DVD publication, so we want more content, not more web links. See the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. --Yamla 21:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to use Wikipedia for advertising, you will be blocked from editing. --Yamla 21:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you insert a spam link, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Yamla 21:44, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, i dont mean to spam, how can i contact you to discuss it? plus you say LAST WARNING i have not had any previous warnings...

J

You can leave a message for me at User_Talk:Yamla if you would like to discuss it. Please read WP:EL first, though. After that, I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. You did get three warnings in total, it's probably just that you were editing the pages while the warnings were coming in. That's why we don't just block you after the first or second warning.  :) --Yamla 21:54, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. If you like, we can just keep the discussion here, may make things easier for you. Please read WP:EL and let me know if you still don't understand why your changes were reverted. --Yamla 21:59, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Do you work for Wiki?

J

Do you mean, do I work for the Wikipedia? It depends on your definition. I am both an editor and an administer here so I guess the answer is yes. However, there are hundreds or probably thousands of people with adminship and definitely many many thousands of people who, like you, have an account and perform edits here. --Yamla 22:11, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

By the way, you can sign and date your posts by adding --~~~~ (that is, two minus signs and four tildes) to the end of your paragraph. --Yamla 22:12, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks for getting back to me.. i dont spam... eg..Jessica Alba \ i added a external link to he page on Wiki as the site has more images and some more information/news about her. I dont understand how this is classed as spam.

J --Bigblog 22:24, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I got an email back from Wiki customer service, they said i have to talk to you about it first...

J --Bigblog 22:29, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, if you read WP:EL, you will see that external links are not particularly encouraged on the Wikipedia. Also, see WP:NOT. The only links that are appropriate are ones that add significant value to the article and which could not be incorporated into the article itself. You obviously were acting in good faith (particularly because you have stopped link spamming after you discovered the warning), but the fact remains that the links are inappropriate. Basically, for every external link that you add, you need to specifically justify why this link should be added. Additionally, adding the same site to a number of different articles is frowned upon. Please do make sure you read WP:EL before commenting further, it may help clear things up a bit for you. --Yamla 22:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

You know full well that your addition of a spam link to Emmy Rossum was inappropriate. I've warned you before. If I catch you inserting any more spam links, you will immediately be blocked. Spam is not welcome here and you know better. --Yamla 15:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Please note that inserting a spam link that you already know is inappropriate and then going to the article's talk page to ask permission to insert it is evidence that you are acting in bad faith. Don't do it again. --Yamla 15:49, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Yamla, U may be a whizz kid on wiki but there are a lot of people who are not and i am one of them.....if you are man enough to explain a little better it might help..i have read the EP:El and sorry, i dont fully understand it. I DON NOT INTEND TO SPAM.. do you know the definition of SPAM?....I am not putting a link up to send people to a porn site, viagra site or a site that is not related. When i posted a page it is 100% related...

--Bigblog 16:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, the simple answer is that Wikipedia is WP:NOT a link farm. In general, we do not welcome external links. There's a long history of Wikipedia considering wallpaper sites to be of sufficiently low quality as to not warrant addition to articles. The fact that most wallpaper sites blatantly violate copyright does not help matters. Rather than wondering why a site is inappropriate to add to Wikipedia, you really need to be thinking the other way around. Assume a site is not appropriate and then see if you can provide a compelling justification. Additionally, if you really do not intend to spam, you should probably ask permission before posting the link rather than after to show that you really are acting in good faith. Another criteria you may want to apply is to consider how easy it would be to find the link by doing a simple google search. When I type 'Emmy Rossum wallpaper' into google, I get about 59,600 links. This clearly shows that it is not hard to find wallpaper on Emmy Rossum (and many of those links are of much higher quality than the site you added). --Yamla 16:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks..thats has helped me a little more...

Is it good for example to put on the Britney Spears page a link for Britney News to go to http://www.americangirl.co.uk/americangirl/americangirl.php?cat=673

Would this be acceptable? the link is all the uptodate news on Britney Spears..

--Bigblog 16:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

No, that's a very low-quality link. It contains unverified information. It is basically a blog site. It does not have longevity. What little of encyclopedic value is on that site could easily be incorporated into the article itself. Now, these are the reasons why not to add the site, but let's try it the other way around. Assume the site isn't worth linking to and see what possible reasons you could have for adding the link. Basically, the only thing I see is that it provides news related to Britney Spears. Well, that's clearly not sufficient. Any worthwhile news could be incorporated into the article itself. What other justifications are there, on the assumption that the site isn't worth linking? I can see no other justifications. --Yamla 16:37, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I would like to thank you for taking the time to discuss these issues, and for stopping inserting links during the discussion. This definitely shows that you are now acting in good faith. --Yamla 16:38, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Notability of Ryan Pelton

A tag has been placed on Ryan Pelton, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you feel that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Jazznutuva 12:45, 1 May 2007 (UTC)