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A pie for you!

Thanks for reviewing my latest batch of Japanese train station pages! : ) RubenSchade (talk) 06:07, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Thans for writing the articles and for your message! Boleyn (talk) 06:44, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

2017-18 Aizawl FC Season

Hi Boleyn. I have removed the template you added on 2017-18 Aizawl F.C. season page as I think I added the appropriate references. Feel free to check those and if you are still not satisfied, you can add them again. For more information on to know what this is about, please check my talk page. Thanks. Sagavaj (talk) 01:12, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

That looks good, Sagavaj, thanks for your hard work! Boleyn (talk) 09:03, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Ex-caped

Re "Beauty & the Bull": I understand IMBd isn't dead reliable, but I've seen the film on TCM... The existence of the film isn't, AFAIK, in doubt; Ford's own page mentions it, with a cite to IMDb for it. And my understanding of IMDb is, the cast & crew isn't open for editing; even if it is, I took the credits right off the film as broadcast. Any suggestions how to resolve this? (If it turns out the page needs deleting, it's not so much work in that I'm really going to care...) TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 23:08, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Trekphiler. I don't think deletion is being considered by anybody, it just needs a reliable source or two added. WP:IMDBREF represents the consensus on imdb, and although I'm sure you were careful to get the information right from the credits, that's still unverifiable/WP:OR and we need evidence for an encyclopaedia. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 09:05, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

I managed to find it listed at TCM.com, so I just swapped websites, with IMDb as an external link, instead. As for deletion, I've had one new page deleted with scarcely a word of discussion, so something badly sourced getting the axe looked possible. (And TBH, I'm not seeing the beef about IMDb, but...) Anyhow, it looks like it'll stay up; if anybody else wants to add, now they can. ;p TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 09:11, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

And "not seriously considering deletion"? Really? TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 23:28, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Hiiumaa Parish

Hi! Thanks for mention about article Hiiumaa Parish. But the problem is now that the municipal elections of Estonia were held 15 October and the creating of this municipal parish is ongoing. Now there is this parish officially without structure, official webpage and official links. Maybe you insert a category about ongoing process or something? :) Kalev Kask 14:10, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, ask, thanks for looking into this. I wouldn't worry about the creation being ongoing, that's true for a lot of topics. Where did you get the information contained in the article? Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 15:37, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Source

I don't have source of Akeem Scott so you can help me to find source article. Thank you so much!.Lon123 (talk) 01:40, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Lon123, please see WP:BURDEN - it is your responsibility to add sources to any information you add on Wikipedia, particularly on living people. You musty have got the information in the article from somewhere - where did you get the information from? Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 10:04, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

I've edited the article and added a source - both external links you had given had no information on him, but I found some elsewhere on those sites. It's still in danger of being tagged for deletion, but less so. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 10:13, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for your note. You mentioned that : We cannot have unreferneced articles on living people in an encyclopaedia. So meaning that I had to add on links about him, am I right? Junkieshowbiz (talk) 01:58, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

BBB

The music video has reached #1 trending on youtube I am just finding references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smartalek33 (talk • contribs) 17:13, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Smartalek33, thanks for getting back to me. Unfortunately, Youtube streams aren't counted towards notability, but hopefully there are other sources out there if it has been popular. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:26, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

It did get number 9 single on the itunes pop music video charts. I have references. smartalek22 (talk) 19:37, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

That is good, Smartalek33, although that would not count towards WP:NSONG or WP:GNG either. Hopefully there will be something though, or the song could be mentioned at the album or artist's article. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 21:07, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Here's possibly its main claim to notability, and I added it to the lead. The video was crowd-funded in a Kickstarter campaign. I think there should be a lot more information about this added to the page, it seems quite notable, and even more notable that what will certainly become a hit video for a hit song is a Kickstarter funded song. Does that happen often? How many times a year? I have no idea if it does or not, or how often. Maybe that's an avenue for sourcing. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:55, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

I guess we just have to wait for next week when the single reaches billboard charts. Smh smartalek22 (talk) 08:29, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Smartalek33, I understand your frustration, but the reality is this may not chart in the most recognised charts and not every song will be notable. With this it's perhaps WP:TOOSOON rather than non-notable; hte good thing about the redirect is that it can be undone at a click when/if there is evidence of its notability. Thanks for working on it, Boleyn (talk) 10:21, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of article

Hi Boleyn, I just logged in to Wikipedia and found a message pointing to a deletion of an article I initiated: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Danny_Wan. I get that the decision was to delete it, and I am sorry I did not have the opportunity to register why I thought the article merited inclusion. It is true that not every councilor should be included in Wikipedia, and I understand that not every "first" should be included either, but I disagree with the assertion that the person in question is not notable. 1) Oakland is a major city. It is underrated, but it is. 2) The councilor in question brought the first gay pride celebration in the city in the late 1990's, as noted by a primary source. That's not notable these days, people take that for granted, but back then, for a city in the San Francisco Bay Area, I think that it is. 3) I felt the article was well-written enough and sourced enough to ensure the other biographical references are substantiated (e.g., year of graduation, etc). So I am disappointed that it was deleted, rather than say re-written; but I will defer to the decision; though I would appeal to re-instating it if granted the chance. Given the list of Oakland councilors currently extant, and the standard by which "notability" is granted for "non-notable" offices, and that I wrote the article based on these, I would not count most of these folks to have biographical articles in Wikipedia (except say, the current and past mayors of Oakland). But they are still there. So I'm perplexed by the standard Omandra (talk) 03:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Omandra, thanks for messaging me. It's frustrating when you take a wikibreak and miss a discussion like this. I think the discussion reflected your point 1), a city the size of Oakland might have notable councillors whereas smaller places almost definitely wouldn't, but it is not an automatic pass by any means and 2) would only be notable if it met WP:GNG, and the coverage was found to be quite far off meeting that. There are many other articles you'll come across that should probably be substantially improved or deleted too, unfortunately there's a huge backlog to be looked at. You have options: you could contact the closing admin and ask if they can re-create the old article at Draft:Danny Wan, where you could work on it and then submit it via WP:AFC, making clear that it was previously deleted. You would need to find a lot more coverage than there was originally though. Good luck! Boleyn (talk) 10:26, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

• Thank you, Boleyn, for the options presented. I did quite a bit of digging for that article, as I do try to research and write comprehensively for any topic, especially bios, and whatever has been cited is coverage for that individual and his narrative (which frankly, as you alluded to, is more than I could say for other articles). I'll keep those options in mind in the future. All the best, Omandra (talk) 23:06, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

2017 Vietnamese Cup

Hi! I have helped creator add source on draft, do you think ready to move back? Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 13:17, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Hhhhhkohhhhh, thanks for working on this article. It's a good start, although it definitely needs more sources to make its notability clear. YOu could submit to WP:AFC now or after some more work to make it more likely to go through AFC and then WP:NPP. Thanks again, Boleyn (talk) 18:38, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

But, how to submit through WP:AFC now? Can you help me? Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 01:10, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Hhhhhkohhhhh, I've just spent 10 mins looking for the answer and couldn't find it! I've advised people to submit via AFC a million times and assumed it was easy (hopefully it is). It's perhaps my early-Sunday-morning brain, but all I came up with is that if you post the question here [1] someone can help you. Any friendly talk page stalkers able to help here? Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 06:49, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

I have submit the draft via AFC, is that OK? Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 07:16, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Of course, Hhhhhkohhhhh, thanks for your hard work. Boleyn (talk) 07:23, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Also thanks for your help. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 07:45, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Block

Cullen328, you seem to have blocked me, is this an error? Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 18:45, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

I am so sorry. I intended to block the editor you reported at ANI and screwed up. You are unblocked and I apologize. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:47, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for resolving it quickly, I was panicked for a minute! Thanks for taking swift action in the ANI. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 18:52, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

I have blocked the other editor, and again, I apologize for my ham-handed error. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:54, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

No problem, we all make mistakes every day! I appreciate not having to try to mop up after Bryan on a regular basis. Here's hoping he returns constructively. Boleyn (talk) 18:56, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Boleyn, when are you going to get a real mop? :-) Alex Shih (talk) 19:02, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

I don't think I'd make it through such a stringent process, although if I ever dare risk it, I'll let you know :) Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 22:12, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Cullen328, can you look at this IP's recent edits [2]? Looks very much like Bryan4562013 editing while logged out. Most edits since Bryan was banned are on pages Bryan regularly works on. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 11:37, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

I have blocked the IP, as that seems to be the same person. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:22, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Cullen328. Boleyn (talk) 19:08, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Cullen328, this IP also only edits articles written/edited by Bryan, including multiple edits to his articles moved to draftspace [3]. Do you think it's clear enough for you to block it? Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 19:25, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Blocked for block evasion. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:02, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, Cullen328, but 202.166.73.171 also has been very active editing mainly articles Bryan already worked on including those in draftsapce. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 07:23, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

I blocked that IP too. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:05, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Wonderful, Cullen328, thank you! Boleyn (talk) 18:53, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Cullen328, it's still happening from [27.125.174.116] unfortunately. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 18:29, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Boleyn. Since a 72 hour block did not work, I extended it to two weeks. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:25, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks - within hours this IP started editing for the first time ever, again only Bryan's articles...[4]. I've left a message encouraging Bryan to challenge his block in the appropriate manner. Merry Christmas, Boleyn (talk) 08:29, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Treaty of Brest-Litovsk

Hello. Two treaties were signed with the name, this is why I thought it's necessary to create a page with "treaties of Brest-Litovsk". When referred to "treaty of Brest-Litovsk" as a singular, there is no need for any disambiguation, we all know what we are talking about. --Io Herodotus (talk) 07:58, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Io Herodotus, thanks for sending me a message. I think it is best deal with as a redirect to the primary page (Treaty of Brest-Litovsk) which has a hatnote to the other. 'Treaties' wouldn't be a dab (because neither is commonly referred to as 'Treaties'). If there were more, it might be worth having as a list of treaties, but for two I think it would be unnecessary. A list or an article on the two together are the best possibilities (and I think probably not needed) but it wouldn't make sense as a disambiguation. Thanks for trying to reolve ambiguity. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 08:03, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Ok Thank you for your answer. --Io Herodotus (talk) 19:47, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

2017 V.League 2

Hello. I've already added the reference for this page. Please revert it back. Thank you. --Ledinhphublxm (talk) 15:35, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on this article, I'll move it to the mainspace. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:13, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

List source

Hello Boleyn. Would you mind asking another user to add the sources in the lists I created? It would surely help. Take care! Ty654 (talk) 21:14, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Ty654, please see WP:BURDEN. Can you remember where you got the information you put in the articles? Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 07:18, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

	Happy Holidays
	Wishing you a happy holiday season! Times flies and 2018 is around the corner. Thank you for your contributions. ~ K.e.coffman (talk) 00:47, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks very much, K.e.coffman. Have a great Christmas! Boleyn (talk) 07:18, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

ho, ho, ho

Hi Boleyn, Neddy wishes everybody a very merry Xmas (suggestions of direct ancestory with one of the eyewitnesses to the happy event have, so far, proved unfounded) Coolabahapple (talk) 00:08, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 03:42, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

And to you, Bzuk! Merry Christmas, Boleyn (talk) 07:29, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Same result

Hi, With High Respect to you.. I think it's the same if you add some sources or not because some of my article or edit is deleted by irresponsible person with subjective view.. so i guess i add source or not my article soon be deleted.. Please control these people, it make uncomfortable to make article in this Great site.. If you ensure my article not be deleted soon i add the source if not it's the same.. Best regards.. thanks.. Orangdepok1 (talk) 03:25, 24 December 2017 (UTC)(Orangdepok1 (talk) 04:25, 24 December 2017 (UTC)).

Hello, Orangedepok1. It is always frustrating when you create an article and it's deleted. I would recommend using WP:AFC, it's a good way to get advice. I can't ensure any article isn't deleted, any Wikipedia editor can initiate a deletion discussion at any time, which may come out as keep or delete. However, it's far more likely to be deleted if it has no sources - and you have a responsibility to add sources to any information you add to Wikipedia, please see WP:BURDEN and WP:V. If you think an article was unfairly deleted, you can contact the admin who deleted it and ask them to move it to your sandbox where you can work on it and re-submit it via WP:AFC. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 07:29, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Dear, Boleyn, yes it's unfair deleted because i always give source when i make an article or edit, and yes he/she irresponsible because not only me complain in his/her talk page, but he/she delete many article and edit too..(Orangdepok1 (talk) 05:25, 25 December 2017 (UTC))

Communication

Sorry, haven't been checking my Wikipedia page. Why were my articles deleted?

Steel Dogg (talk) 10:21, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Steel Dogg, please see User talk:Steel Dogg#A page you started (Ahmed Jalal) has been reviewed! and User talk:Steel Dogg#Sources for why your articles were moved to draftspace. They were not deleted, and my messages gave instructions on how to move them back when they have sources. Bes tiwshes, Boleyn (talk) 11:54, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

SOurces

I just copy-pasted all of the info from the King T artist page to the discography page

Thanks for replying. Did it have any source given there? Can you please add a source? The WP:BURDEN is on the article creator. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 14:52, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Sources

About the All Africa Music Awards article. I'll add the sources, I have to sleep now

Aghachi7 (talk) 20:47, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

~~~ Merry Christmas! ~~~
Joyeux Noël! ~ Buon Natale! ~ Vrolijk Kerstfeest! ~ Frohe Weihnachten!
¡Feliz Navidad! ~ Feliz Natal! ~ Καλά Χριστούγεννα! ~ Hyvää Joulua!
God Jul! ~ Glædelig Jul! ~ Linksmų Kalėdų! ~ Priecīgus Ziemassvētkus!
Häid Jõule! ~ Wesołych Świąt! ~ Boldog Karácsonyt! ~ Veselé Vánoce!
Veselé Vianoce! ~ Crăciun Fericit! ~ Sretan Božić! ~ С Рождеством!
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สุขสันต์วันคริสต์มาส! ~ Selamat Hari Natal! ~ Giáng sinh an lành!

Hello, Boleyn! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
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I hope you have worked really hard as a New Page reviewer by sacrificing the number of articles that you would have created this year. I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year 2018. Thanks for your great efforts once again. Abishe (talk) 06:27, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Response to "Source"

Thanks for the reminder, Boleyn. I'm adding the references now. Aalv15 (talk) 05:13, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Brilliant, thanks. Boleyn (talk) 06:49, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Ways to improve 2017 Youth World Weightlifting Championships

Where are issues on the page or what i can change or modify?

Hello, thanks for your messages. At the moment there is an article explaining that the event took place, but not why it was significant, and two primary sources, but no extensive coverage. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 07:28, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Sebuah BintangWiki untuk Anda!

	BintangWiki Asli
	thanks for your appreciation Luthfi Waskitojati (talk) 08:06, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Draft:The Recruit Diaries

I think it won't qualify for G5, as "a page created by a banned or blocked user (Bryan4562013) in violation of the user's ban or block" because he wasn't blocked or banned when he created it, so he wasn't violating a block/ban at the time (unless you think he was a different, already blocked/banned user, socking as Bryan...). Technicalities suck, I know - thanks for being alert to this stuff. Ciao. -- Begoon 10:00, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Bryan4562013 keeps editing it from IP addresses, but another criteria may apply. Thanks for your help, Boleyn (talk) 10:11, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

I know. The Bryan4562013 web is spun wide. I used {{Copyvio-revdel}} on a couple of his/his ip socks other things today. Again, thanks for your vigilance - it doesn't go unnoticed. -- Begoon 10:17, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Well, RHaworth deleted it anyway, which is good. Seems my fears were unfounded. -- Begoon 23:57, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Thanks for reviewing Northern Han Chinese, Boleyn.

Unfortunately Atsme has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

I have nominated this article for AfD.

To reply, leave a comment on Atsme's talk page.

^{Atsme📞📧} 19:23, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Horní Lideč Railway Station

Just a friendly heads up on Horní Lideč Railway Station. A3 specifically excludes articles that have just an infobox, as much as that pains me. PROD is probably the way to go here, or redirect to the town's page.

Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 21:24, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

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Bargain Hunt (disambiguation)

Hi Boleyn, I noticed that you have proposed deletion of page Bargain Hunt (disambiguation). The reason, I created this page is because there are 2 pages on Wikipedia now - one for the TV series and another for the retail chain. I think this can be included on the disambiguation page of Bargain - which actually redirects to wikipedia page Bargain - rather than having a separate disambiguation page. What do you think about this? I understand that there are only 2 pages with this name and is not very confusing and hence can be deleted. Pratty (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:48, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi Pratty. There is room for confusion, it's just best dealt with via a hatnote per WP:2DABS. It would be a WP:PTM at the Bargain dab and so shouldn't be included there. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 15:05, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Derwentwater (family)

The article Derwentwater (family) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No family of this name is actually associated with the title held by the Radclyffes, as far as I know. I don't see there is any actual need for this page.

In other words, seems superfluous to me, given we have Earl of Derwentwater. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:55, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Charles Matthews (talk) 09:53, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Updated the page you marked for speedy deletion to appear more encyclopedic like it was originally intended

Please see Chameleon_mini_(hardware) and the attached reasonable contest to its speedy deletion. I would like for you to remove the banner, not for me to have to do it and then have an editor flag it again because the edit is found disagreeable to their tastes and/or knowledge of the underlying topic matter. It's a serious NFC security tool (that hackers, feds, terrorists et. al. all know about and use) that has many uses. The Wikipedia page was missing, so I added it. The underlying "OS" (if you will) driving this piece of hardware, that *yes* like most things, is sold commercially is a well-respected suite of open-source software with many followers. Additionally, the schematics for reproducing the device are freely available to the public under an OSS licence and consequently multiple manufacturers have produced versions of the device for commercial retail applications (the Rev. E and G boards have different manufacturers -- no touting of a single product here). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxieds (talk • contribs) 23:25, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Sources

There is only so much I can do - and in many cases the material is already elsewhere on Wikipedia (including other languages). Much arises from what I am doing elsewhere in the wikiverse - and I start articles off here in the hope that others will take them on. Jackiespeel (talk) 19:27, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Jackiespeel, thanks for getting back to me. The WP:BURDEN is on the person creating the article to reference it, and whatever your source is, it should be added. However, if it is from a Wikipedia article (English or another language), it still needs a source - see WP:UGC, Wikipedia is not itself a reliable source and I've gone astray myself using it to create articles elsewhere on the project, and only realising the information was faulty when it required a lot of work to put it right. If you don't have a reliable source for your information, please don't add the information to Wikipedia. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:38, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Hiya!

I read Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#Changes_to_article_creation but my response seems slightly offtopic so I figured I best post it here. You wrote: "...spend a lot of my time contacting editors asking them to add their source(s). This takes up a huge amount of my time".

It doesn't have to. You can add extra buttons to the Wikipedia interface. I have added some buttons to my interface that allow me to quickly post certain templates. You can do the same (I can help you if you want, and so can many of the people who hang out over at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)).

My interface currently looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/lhA7Y9Z.png

You'll notice that there are some extra buttons. In the screenshot you see what happens when I click all additional buttons in a row, from the smiley to the number 4. The template gets added to the textbox I am writing in. You could of course make your own custom standardized messages, and re-use them with the click of a button. Typing the same stuff over and over again gets boring fast. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 04:38, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, The Quixotic Potato, I appreciate the advice. Boleyn (talk) 19:35, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Arthistorian1977. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Yanshan Station, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Arthistorian1977 (talk) 21:27, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Arthistorian1977. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Magezhuang Station, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Arthistorian1977 (talk) 21:28, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Annett Fleischer

Hi. if you see an article like this and you think it's worth the effort, don't hesitate to let me know - I'm bilingual German-English (and French). The best thing to do first however, is move it to draft. Such translations are often gobbeldygook. I've cleaned it up considerably (the machine translation left a lot of nonsense), but if you have a moment, please give it a proof read. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:24, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Kudpung, I'll bear that in mind. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:35, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Fangoria

Sources are on the way! There's certainly still more work to be done. UncleBoogeyman (talk) 14:03, 9 January 2018 Thanks, UncleBoogeyman. Boleyn (talk) 19:34, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Charbel Fakhoury

Hello thank you for reviewing my page Charbila, I just want to ask you how much time will it take for it to be included in google search Charbelfakhoury (talk) 00:56, 10 January 2018 (UTC)Charbelfakhoury Hi, Charbelfakhoury, it's usually very quick, although it depends on Google and the other search engines. It's free for them to index it now it's been reviewed. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 06:37, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Bear in mind

Various of the revisions arise from my developing other parts of the wikiverse and setting the article up here on red links for others to develop. Jackiespeel (talk) 23:27, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Jozef Gawlina

Hello there. I was just importing sources when your message came through. Would you like to review and remove tag? Thanks.--Po Mieczu (talk) 14:35, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I've changed {unref} to {inline}. If you move the sources inline, then feel free to just remove the tag. Thanks for creating this article, Boleyn (talk) 14:46, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

OK, thank you, I'll do that.--Po Mieczu (talk) 15:38, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Unanswered question

Please you're yet to answer my question while it is clear you saw it. –Ammarpad (talk) 18:02, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Ammarpad. I'm not sure why you are saying 'it is clear you saw it' - you didn't WP:PING me so I'm afriad I did not see it. I have added the citation needed tags as you requested, but WP:UNSOURCED will give you more details: The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and is satisfied by providing a citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 18:29, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

I did not ping you becasue it is your esponsibility to watch people's talkpage when you post there, especially when you ask question and expecting reply. You still didn't answer my question on what actually needs to be sourced but I see you oddly tagged President of Ghana, Vice and CJ for sources. Fine. You should've have told me that straight when I asked you exactly what needs sourcing. Now you're fundamentally wrong. 2018 in Ghana is not article but you wrongly thought it is. We don't cite the sky is blue. That's why 2018 in the United States, 2018 in the United Kingdom, 2018 in France, 2018 in Iran, 2018 in Canada, 2017 in Thailand and all pages in Category: 2018 by country, None of them have given citation for the standard incumbents, because of common sense. But all these pages you didn't tag them with {{citation needed}} and you didn't send their creators your accusatory semi templated message titled "source". I only created 2018 in Ghana; some people created them (2018 in x) in bulk because they're pseudo-categories to maintain standard information about countries and they use standard templates, they are not articles as you wrongly assumed. That's why when I plainly asked you what "exactly" needs sources you you can't give me "plain" answer except to return sophistic response. Now if you are still going to add additional {{cn}} to 2018 in Ghana, then you should use Category: 2018 by country for easier work, because all the 200+ pages need that also. And also track all there creators from there and send them your semi-templated, incriminating message. Then please do not send me that kind of semi-templated message which you sent in bulk to multiple people again. I opted out completely. Either fix it yourself or post at the talkpage of the affected article, (i.e post at Talk:2018 in Ghana) or tag it for necessary cleanup or proceed with any deletion process if necessary. –Ammarpad (talk) 13:17, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Response

Sorry to say this, but I can't put the sources on those adult contemporary top 10 articles by myself. It's way too much work for me. I would like to kindly ask you to ask another user to put the sources on those articles for me. It would be the nicest thing for me. Thank you!

–Ty654 (talk) 19:58, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Ty654, what were the sources for them? I'm happy to help. Boleyn (talk) 08:37, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Information

The information is from the adult contemporary list on Billboard's official website. –Ty654 (talk) 20:17, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

That sounds a good source - do you have a link? I'm happy to help you add them to the articles. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 20:25, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Lawshall (disambiguation)

The Lawshall (disambiguation) has provided an index for the last six years. It is this sort of pettiness that forced my decision to withdraw from Wikipedia. Up to 10 hours a day I used to spend on articles like these. My withdrawal is yours and the Wikipedia community's loss. If you really care you would of course provide a substitute index. League Octopus 19:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

@League Octopus: Thank you for creating the articles for Lawshall, however this is not the purpose of DAB pages, why don't you create a category or template for Lawshall instead. We had Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 January 5#Category:Cliburn but 17 articles should be enough. Please don't go away, we are just saying that the DAB is not appropriate, that's all. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:56, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I agree wholly with Crouch, Swale. Boleyn (talk) 20:02, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

This has now been suggested at the AFD, indeed I have made this mistake with Ingatestone (disambiguation) but I have never seen a DAB page based on topics that a part of a larger topic. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:29, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

I've now cobbled together {{Lawshall}} - further refinement by template experts, or local experts, would be very welcome. I've added it to Lawshall, and (as long as folk think it's a Good Idea) it now needs to be added to all the other articles involved. PamD 21:18, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks PamD I have now added it to all the pages. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:22, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

And thanks, @Crouch, Swale: for spotting the necessary disambiguation - because it was a hatnote it didn't show up in orange as a "link to dab page"! PamD 21:26, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

2005 Formula BMW UK season

Hi Boleyn, thanks for your message. Yes the sources are from those websites so should they be put under 'references'? Thanks, Matthew.

Yes, please. To make it really clear for the reader, they should be WP:INLINECITED, but the main thing is that the source is clear. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 20:16, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Elazar Fleckeles

Hi, thanks for pointing out the issue with Elazar Fleckeles. I added some tags to the page, & just wanted to confirm that it's good now - if you don't mind, please take a look and let me know if there are any issues. High Leader (talk) 09:10, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

All looks good now, thanks for your hard work. Boleyn (talk) 10:23, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Re: Reflists

Hey, thanks for pointing that out. Switching between source and visual editing goofs up the auto-addition of the template. I'll be more keen on making sure I put it in as I do the rest of the seasons. Cheers. Etzedek24 ^{(Would it kill ya to leave an edit summary?)} 11:17, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for creating new articles. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 22:10, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

List of township-level divisions of ......

I have responded to your assessments of the township-level divisions lists on my talk page. I have added some additional material to those pages. Thanks for your work. Geographyinitiative (talk) 14:16, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Geographyinitiative, much appreciated. Boleyn (talk) 22:09, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Suggestion

How about actually improving articles instead of wasting time, templating users who know how to improve articles? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:06, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

It's a shame you've responded in this way. I alerted you to the fact you had created an article with no sources at all, nicely worded. That is all. Boleyn (talk) 22:09, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

I actually redirected the article in question to the 2018 Winter Olympics, something you failed to notice. Fact is templating users who have created over 800+ articles is a complete waste of time. I encourage yourself to use your time more constructively. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:13, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Again, it's a shame you have taken so personally someone contacting you nicely to encourage you to add your references to a unreferenced article you had created. Boleyn (talk) 22:14, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Because its a complete waste of time to message someone who has just redirected the article. How is a redirect an unreferenced article?? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:19, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Jamaica at the 2018 Winter Olympics seems to still be in existence, as it certainly was when I messaged you, as the message was actually me reviewing the article for New Page Patrol. Boleyn (talk) 22:23, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

But you can easily open the page up and see I only redirected the page. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:55, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

• (talk page watcher) The problem is that although NPP listing is clever enough to spot a new article being created over what was previously a redirect, it doesn't then recognise that the appropriate person to whom to send reviewing messages is the one who added the major content, not the one who made the redirect. In this case they were only created 6 hours apart, but the same thing seems to happen even if the redirect was years old. So Sportsfan created a perfectly legitimate redirect, but Boleyn's NPP review messages got sent to them instead of to the appropriate editor NiklasBillinger1. That's just an unfortunate effect of how the NPP software seems to work, and experienced editors should just shrug off the occasional misdirected message. When reviewing at NPP it's often useful to have a look at the article's history, which can sometimes be quite revealing. PamD 23:54, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
• @Sportsfan 1234: has made a valid point here. @PamD, you've to remember the person behind a semi-automated tool is responsible for all its action. So I don't see the point of blaming NPP tool. –Ammarpad (talk) 09:34, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Kem Cetinay

Hello, Boleyn,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Kem Cetinay should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kem Cetinay .

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks,

^{Atsme📞📧} 03:55, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Atsme, thanks for looking at this. I only created it as a redirect, 178.96.28.132 made it an article, but I have commented at the deletion discussion. Thanks for keeping me in the loop, Boleyn (talk) 06:56, 15 January 2018 (UTC)