Greetings...

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Hello, Brianrusso, and welcome to Wikipedia!

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I (and the rest of us here, too!) hope you like it here and decide to stay!
Happy editing! the skomorokh 20:46, 15 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Sea Shepherd Conservation Society

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Thanks for your recent comments on the SSCS talk page. You made comments about being careful not to take any source as canon. I whole heartedly agree. Still I think that sources from notable experts (like government officials, those with PhD's in the subject and official government statements) deserve a little more attention than blogs, nevertheless your point about being careful not to consider any of them the final word is important. Peace and happy editing. --68.41.80.161 (talk) 22:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Exercise Talisman Saber

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Hi Brian, please note that the name of this exercise varies between 'Exercise Talisman Saber' and 'Exercise Talisman Sabre' in accordance with whether the US or Australian military took the lead in planning it, This is explained here. As such, both spellings are equally correct. Nick-D (talk) 09:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

What's the best practice for handling this? The actual exercise name for each specific op varies as to the lead; I'm not clear on a good strategy that is neither US nor AU centric in terms of referring to it in general. Brianrusso (talk) 10:03, 4 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

As both are correct, it would be best to state this early in the article and then stick to one or the other of the spellings - I don't think it really matters which one is used ultimately. Seeing as the name of the article is now Exercise Talisman Saber, it would probably be simplest to use that (especially as it is the spelling most familiar to most of Wikipedia's readers). Nick-D (talk) 10:10, 4 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
Okay, I'm just going to go with Talisman Saber then, except when referring to specific years. I re-edited it and also noted this on the talk page (Brianrusso (talk) 10:23, 4 February 2010 (UTC))Reply
That looks good to me - nice work. Nick-D (talk) 10:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Where to write on "Forced circumcision of children"?

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There's an article "Forced circumcision" in Wikipedia categorized under "Violence against men". But the entire article talks about forced circumcision of adult men in different areas of the world. And the "Forced circumcision" article doesn't address forced circumcision of children. The Wikipedia article "Circumcision" categorized under "Surgical procedures" doesn't address forced circumcision of children either.

Most of the forced circumcisions are committed against child, pre-teen and teen boys rather than against adults, where the children are either physically forced or are tricked to undergo the procedure. And in many cultures, these circumcisions are done by non-medical traditional operators with non-surgical instruments, and often with no anesthesia.


Video evidences provided below-

Video evidence 1 – Forced circumcision of Muslim boy in Asia by illiterate traditional operator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkyjZ1kTNU0&t=6s

Video evidence 2 – Forced circumcision of child/teen boys in Africa by illiterate local operators: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jziT0kK_t-8

Video evidence 3 – Bangladeshi Muslim child boy try to defend physically but no luck to prevent his forced circumcision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMe7lTc8PQM

Video evidence 4 - Forced circumcision of an Indian Muslim boy (boy screaming loud in extreme pain, but everybody surrounding is laughing, having fun): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISXDzw3DN5I

Video evidence 5 - Bangladeshi Muslim boy can’t bear the pain of his forced circumcision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3JV1s61b4o

Video evidence 6 - The scream of this boy seems to be very funny for Bangladeshi Muslims, so they were all laughing during the violent ordeal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTAlXGQoXkw

Video evidence 7 - Video of forced circumcision being taken against the wishes of the Indian Muslim boy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWoUHZ_gX0Q


The above videos are disturbing. Voices of the boys are clear. Attacks on them are brutal. Lots of forced circumcision videos have been uploaded to Youtube and many are being uploaded everyday.

In Video 3, we see a child is trying to physically defend himself from forced circumcision, but his family members are shouting at him and physically forcing him to undergo the procedure.

In Video 7, the boy who was being forcibly circumcised requested his family members not to take video of the violence. A female family member promised not to take video of the offense. But actually they filmed the entire operation and uploaded the video to Youtube. Even though it’s illegal to upload such video of a child in internet, the offenders made it clear that they are not afraid of law or court.

About the “Video 1”, the title of the above video in Youtube is “Funny Khatna 2016”. In Islam, “Khatna” means “Circumcision”. And for “UBAID UR REHMAN”, a fundamentalist Muslim, the uploader of the video, the screaming of the boy during his un-anesthesized circumcision was so funny. So he titled the video as “Funny Khatna 2016”. Also, about the Video 6, Monoar Bin ahmed, a Bangladeshi Muslim, the uploader of the video, titled the video as "fun:......"

Often in a forced circumcision case, we see a boy is screaming and people surrounding him are laughing. For example, in video 4 and in video 6, we see a boy is screaming loud in extreme pain during his forced circumcision, but everybody surrounding him is laughing and having fun with this.


Now the question is that where to write on "Forced circumcision of children" in Wikipedia?

1. Is it appropriate to create an additional article titled "Forced circumcision of children"?

Or, 2. Is it appropriate to write on "Forced circumcision of children" in the Wikipedia article "Forced circumcision"?

Or, 3. Is it appropriate to write on "Forced circumcision of children" in the Wikipedia article "Circumcision"?


Topic is posted here in Talk:Circumcision#Where to write on "Forced circumcision of children"?

Abir Babu (talk) 11:20, 19 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

There is no such thing as "Male Genital Mutilation"?

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The Wikipedia page Male Genital Mutilation is redirected to the Wikipedia page "Genital modification and mutilation" <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genital_modification_and_mutilation#Male_genitals>.

Though the Wikipedia article Genital modification and mutilation addresses the definition and examples of "Female Genital Mutilation" explicitly, the article doesn't address any such thing as "Male Genital Mutilation". The article doesn't address any definition for "Male Genital Mutilation" and doesn't even address offenses such as "Penectomy", "Castration", "Penile subincision", "Male infibulation", "Male genital piercing and tatooing" as a genital mutilation. This only sends a message that Wikipedia considers as there is no such thing as "Male Genital Mutilation".

Though some forms of male genital cutting may not be considered a mutilation in some cultures, this doesn't mean that there is no such thing as "Male Genital Mutilation" and Wikipedia can't have a page titled "Male Genital Mutilation". The page Male Genital Mutilation should be an independent page like Female Genital Mutilation page and will represent offenses such as "Penectomy", "Castration", "Penile subincision", "Male infibulation", "Male genital piercing and tatooing" etc.

The topic is posted in Talk:Male genital mutilation#There is no such thing as "Male Genital Mutilation"?

Abir Babu (talk) 11:20, 19 October 2017 (UTC)Reply