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Wonyoung lead image

Hi, I previously reverted your CSD request for that lead image, and have seen the new deletion nomination discussion. However, where is the exact source for the image to proof Dubba_dd uploaded that image, because I have scroll through Dubba_dd entire profile feed but couldn't find that image at all, do you happened to see that because you didn't include the exact source in neither of your deletion request (CSD and nomination discussion). — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:22, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

The person who uploaded the images aren't the copyright holder. The uploader personally contacted the fansite and posted the pictures on their behalf. The original copyright holder needs to be the one to do it and not somebody else. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 08:26, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Btspurplegalaxy Yes, that's from my understanding from the various discussions (mostly through edit summary), if that's the case, then they will need to email Commons:Volunteer Response Team with the permission, of which one of their VRT member, will correct the permission, and at the same time, they will mark that image as approved. Btw, the uploader is allowed to upload on behalf, they just need to submit claims to VRT as evidence, of which I believe they didn't. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:39, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

I'll inform them about it. So things are corrected. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 08:43, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Btspurplegalaxy No problem, I have for now tagged the file as no permission. If uploader submitted the claims to VRT within 7 days, the notice would be removed by VRT's members. If they didn't, then we can initiate CSD if the file isn't automatically deleted by admin after 7 days. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:45, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jang Jin-young

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Your GA nomination of Jang Jin-young

The article Jang Jin-young you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Jang Jin-young for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of An anonymous username, not my real name -- An anonymous username, not my real name (talk) 14:40, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jang Jin-young

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May 2022

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Little Mix. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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U currently edit Twice wiki page, and removed solo from the heading, but shouldn't Sana participation in sotsugyou is also a solo project

"In February 2021, Sana made her rendition of "Sotsugyou", a 2020 single by Japanese band Kobukuro.[207] The cover, which includes an a cappella version, was released as a digital single through Warner Music Japan.[208] A version with Kobukuro themselves was released in March 2021" TarangVardhan (talk) 17:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

I removed it as you requested. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 17:40, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Nina Makino

On 20 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nina Makino, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that media promotions for the film Blood Friends were not allowed to mention that cast member Nina Makino is part of the girl group NiziU? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nina Makino. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Nina Makino), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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"Adventures with Purpose" listed at Redirects for discussion

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June 2022

There is one book by Kim which is cited 12 times in Harvard book format which should be in sfn format; could you change it over to sfn format? All the rest of the books are fully converted to sfn. The question of Forbes cites was dealt with extensively during GAN and Wikipedia policy is that Forbes may be used for articles written by Forbes-Editors only; this was all converted during GAN with over one dozen Forbes articles by non-editors removed or changed to other sources, though the current FAC reviewer believes that some of the Forbes cites are faulty. Are the Forbes citations ok at this time, or are there any which you can find which violate the Forbes Editors-only policy at Wikipedia? ErnestKrause (talk) 16:56, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

I'll convert them for you. During the GAN review, I replaced every Forbes source written by any contributors. Exactly, there is only one Forbes source cited throughout the article. It's written by the Forbes staff. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 17:10, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for that. The Kim Young book is already in the sfn list and it only needs the Harv-links in the article to be changed over to the sfn format. The FAC reviewer seems to be saying that the article has other references which fail to link to Harv-cites, though I can't see any of these on my screen at this time; do such "failed Harv-cites" appear on your screen? ErnestKrause (talk) 17:16, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

I converted them, does everything look correct? Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 17:58, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

That improves things again. There is also a note from Wehwalt on the renewed FAC nomination page about this which you could look at. FrG has also added a set of edit requests which you might be good at addressing some of them. Possibly you can find a few minutes to look at them. ErnestKrause (talk) 00:11, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

I will look at it. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 00:29, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

That looks good. There are more comments there today from K Peake in case you might be able to address some of the ones on the list. ErnestKrause (talk) 13:42, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Those were nice edits you did and I'm signing out for today. More tomorrow I think. On this one edit, I had removed a source which you then returned on your next edit here: [1]. Was this intended or was this an edit buffers issue? ErnestKrause (talk) 20:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

It's for sure an edit buffer issue. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 00:10, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

I've restored the update for it now. Wehwalt is asking about double checking the Korean sources for reliablity on the Talk page for BTS. Could you double check the Korean sources in the BTS article for conformity to this? ErnestKrause (talk) 15:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

I will check them. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 16:43, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Winter

Hello, I wanted to make the article for Winter and Ningning since their solo single was charted on Korea's well known charting platform Gaon Digital Chart. 119.74.162.12 (talk) 05:33, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

They can't have their own articles per WP:BANDMEMBER Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 06:26, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Transl help

Hey could you look over the transl for the sole Korean ref in this draft for me and correct it where necessary? Thanks! -- Carlobunnie (talk) 01:00, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

I'll have it done. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 15:12, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

June 2022

It occurred to me that it might be nice to invite some reviewers to add comments to the FAC who have a background in Korean langauge and Korean culture; if you have had experience with some editors over that last year who are good in this field, then possibly you could contact them to ask if they could add support/oppose comments at the FAC for BTS. Does anyone come to mind? ErnestKrause (talk) 14:14, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately I don't know any reviewers. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 19:21, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

A new reviewer has asked if the nomination could have References added/required for the Concert tours section. Could you look at this? Its now done. ErnestKrause (talk) 22:12, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello. I didn't just removed content. I also added the updated version of that particular news with reliable source. I saw it several days ago that 4 bts solo song has sold over 500K unit in US. They are Euphoria, Lie, Serendipity and Filter. So I came to wikipedia to see if its mentioned here. Euphoria's sales record is mentioned in Jungkook's article. But the other 3 aren't. So I added this. I hope you add the sales record in Jimin's article too. Thank you.Wu Bai X Tong Nian(talk) 1:56, 17June 2022 (UTC)

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July 2022

We've updated the division task for the citations on Wehwalt's Talk page; could you give it a look. Possibly you could mention if you agree with it, and if you might be able to assist with it over the next few days. ErnestKrause (talk) 23:31, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Edit warring

Hi - a follow-up note about the edit warring at Le Sserafim a few days ago. You made four reverts there, which were not quite within a 24-hour period, but you were skirting WP:3RR very close, and I don't think that any of the WP:3RRNO exemptions would have applied. Regardless of whether or not you were in the right there, please tread carefully in situations like that. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 17:41, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

I will be more careful. I appreciate you helping out. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 19:58, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Ahin of Momoland

Btspurplegalaxy, your edits removed about 2/3 of the draft article on Ahin of Momoland; some of you contributions are good, but you removed every mention of the most important and most relevant 4 years of her career, which is preporsterous. This would be like removing all of mentions of Paul McCartney during his career with the Beatles other than the introductory album. While I can see merit to some of your points, the macro reduction is way too much, and removed 4 months of careful writing.

The article is particularly well sourced. Citiations include reputable sources from more than one dozen countries including CBS News, Chicago Tribune, Singapore Straits Times, Billboard, Rolling Stone, La Prensa Latina, NME New Music Experience (UK), and many magazines including Elle, Vogue, Consmopolitan, Nylon, and GQ, and you removed most of those.

Momoland has been an impactful group, but in very different ways than other Kpop groups. Part of the reason is that Momoland not only has fluent English speakers, but has the synergy between an actual Irish American member (Nancy McDonie) with a fluent English-Madarin-Korean speaker, Ahin. It is this synergy spread globally through social media that has created a niche international following, largely due to Ahin herself. To redact the most important parts of her biography out causes the loss of the most significant parts of her career, and robs the article of perspective.

All that said, some of your edits were good, and some of the edits could be moved into the main Momoland biography, but this should be done with a scalpel type precission, not a sledge hammer. Kops2222 (talk) 18:30, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Ahin should be the only focus of the article, not the group's history or anything concerning them. The only exception would be mentioning that she debuted with them. Considering Paul's long and extensive career as a solo artist and The Beatles aren't just like any other group, the comparison you made is not even reasonable. You could certainly improve the group article, especially with those sources. Adding what you wrote to the group article would mean heavily modifying the wording to conform to our guidelines, WP:EPSTYLE. As your draft stands, it will not be accepted as the wording is still a problem. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 20:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

About Updating Chaeyoung's Page

I recieved your message about properly citing sources. I've never updated anything on Wiki before. I followed the links you provided and tried my best! Please let me know if it needs to be changed more. I'm doing my best to learn properly! Thank You! 2601:3CA:C203:52F0:35B3:925F:959F:CF8D (talk) 19:16, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

I added a source for you. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 03:44, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Christmas Tree (V song) has a new comment

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Promotion of BTS

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FrB.TG (talk) 12:09, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Congratulations on your contributions to the BTS promotion. Nice going. ErnestKrause (talk) 14:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! You did an excellent job. It was a pleasure to work with you on the article. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 18:28, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

&Team page

Me and many others have fixed the issues outlined by reviewers. To my knowledge there is no limit or restrictions to submit a page for review but if there is please tell me. Thanks. Taorenxuan (talk) 01:12, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

If you keep resubmitting it as you please, WP:NMFD may come into play. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 01:28, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

&AUDITION page

Hello, I noticed the original &AUDITION page was redirected to one without caps by you, "&audition", however this does not need to happen for "title of works", see page for M*A*S*H which is is all caps. I think we should respect the original branding. I think the same way with &TEAM's page. "BTS"'s page is also in all caps, since it's part of &TEAM's brand too, I think it's better if we do that. Thanks, Btspurplegalaxy Jamjamjay (talk) 05:42, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

BTS and M*A*S*H are allowed to be in all caps per MOS:CAPSACRS but &Audition isn't. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 05:48, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

When adding archives

Just wanted to caution you when using a Bot to add archives to a page. Your edit just now, added several archives for chart issues in multiple countries that are completely unrelated to when RM's albums charted. Ik many editors think manual archiving is tedious, but it saves having to make subsequent edits like this one I just did when the archives don't match. The Ireland archive is also pointless. I haven't checked the others yet, but thought it was important to mention to you. This is especially the case when the general url to a chart is used/saved (as was for the Aus, Can and Ire refs) instead of a week specific url. The bots don't check whether archives match the info stated in an article/table or not. They only look for the closest working archive. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 21:02, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

I see, thanks for the heads-up. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 22:43, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

I saw your name on a news article

That's it. Cheers 「HypeBoy」^TALK 07:06, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Do you have a link to it? I know I've been mentioned on a gossip site Allkpop Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 14:48, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Kaeun

Hello @Btspurplegalaxy.

I am just curious on what you mean by my article Kaeun does not have any specific notability. LegoMeLegos3 (talk) 03:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

She doesn't meet the criteria per WP:SINGER. The draft doesn't have enough information either. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 03:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Weverse notice link re: The Astronaut

In the Release history table, I left the ref space blank for SK because per the WV notice titled "[Notice] Information on the Pre-order of Jin’s Solo Single “The Astronaut” (+KOR/JPN/CHN)", dd Oct 18, separate dates were listed out for certain territories, so I did the table accordingly. However, unlike for the Various and US entries, I can't locate the link for the aforementioned notice even though I can see it on the app. I tried the website, but idk if it isn't on there at all or if I simply missed it. Can you help? -- Carlobunnie (talk) 01:17, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

When viewing that Weverse announcement on the desktop, you will be redirected to the mobile app, where you're required to log in to access it. The other announcements are posted to Weverse Shop which you can view here US announcements:[2] and the Global announcements:[3] Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 02:35, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Yeah I know that already, because I linked both of those notices in the table. The one that redirects to the app is what I was concerned about, because it's the only place I've seen those specific details and I haven't seen any other articles mention them (I don't believe short links that redirect like that are allowed on WP so I can't use it). If you happen to come across any reliable sources that do, please lmk! -- Carlobunnie (talk) 14:16, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

I will if I find anything. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 18:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

whats the problem? i didnt do vandalism

hey it's true that lovelyz unites on Naver Now's 'Music To You' on 17th november, 2022. i got reference from news and used template:cite web so dont revert my edit. 121.133.40.84 (talk) 12:01, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

I didn't say your edits were vandalism. Your edits are making the article messy. It needs to be done in a correct way. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 12:09, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Jungkook's perfect pitch

Recently came across Talk:List of people with absolute pitch and saw the ongoing discourse about Jungkook's lack of inclusion on the page. One of the commenters said that Kim Youngdae mentions it in his BTS The Review book. I vaguely recall that during the BTS FAR, either you or Ernest had access to the book. If you in fact do, is there anyway you can verify the perfect pitch inclusion claim and the extent to which it is discussed in the book? -- Carlobunnie (talk) 04:36, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

I'll have a look at the book and see if it's mentioned. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 04:39, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 07:39, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

I went through the book and it's mentioned. In Kim Youngdae's book, he interviewed the composer of I Need You, his name is Brother Su. Brother Su said "Personally, I was truly surprised at Jung Kook for his vocal tone and perfect pitch." Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 22:32, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi! Is it possible to add Jungkook to the List of people with absolute pitch page and to his Artistry section (he's the only member without this section, I think)? Thank you! Sevenbluelions (talk) 03:21, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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Sakura Miyawaki

Why do you think Sakura is 24? I have legit heard chaewon, yujin and Sakura all say she is 26 on leniverse. UsernamResitrictionsAREANNOYING (talk) 19:06, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

You're spewing nonsense. We don't go by the Korean age system on Wikipedia. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 21:22, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Sakura Miyawaki (cont.)

Ok fair enough. I understand now.Although I wasn't spewing nonsense. They did state she was 26. UsernamResitrictionsAREANNOYING (talk) 20:01, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

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Editing awards

Both {{u|Ivana}} and myself have added nominations for BTS for the MAMA awards and the Grammy awards. If is usually the understanding at Wikipedia that such edits about nominations are normally updated with the status of the wins once the wins are announced. I'm assuming also that once any wins are recorded for the Grammys next year, that these wins will be added to the article. You have deleted the wins I have added for MAMA awards from the article; which policy should be adopted for the Grammy awards next Spring? There will be no more awards for them for 2-3 years because of military service and the 2022 wins should be included in the BTS article. ErnestKrause (talk) 16:16, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Ivana Ping for Ivana who has edited the nominations. ErnestKrause (talk) 16:17, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Ïvana Second Ping for Ivana with pointing for her script name. ErnestKrause (talk) 16:20, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

@ErnestKrause: I sourced the last 3 Grammy noms just because we are mentioning the specific number on the lead, and after checking multiple articles of Grammy nominees with no wins that seems to be common practice. I don't really have a problem with not mentioning every single award (there is a separate article for that) unless it is exceptionally notable in some way (like when they had a daesang all-kill). Maybe it would be better to have this conversation in the talk page of the article so we can refer to it later. - Ïvana (talk) 00:30, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Ïvana There are alot of photos of his new military crew cut haircut; should one of these military photos of him be added to the "Scheduled separation" section to signal the start of the actual separation? ErnestKrause (talk) 17:09, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

It's less likely to have any of the pictures, as he enlisted privately. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 17:12, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

@ErnestKrause: Agree with Btspurplegalaxy; his enlistment was a private schedule and media wasn't invited. Also even if that wasn't the case, looking through other enlisted or formely enlisted idols there are no pictures of them during that time on their articles or their groups articles, so it doesn't seem to be common practice to add them. - Ïvana (talk) 17:43, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

It was a big deal when Elvis went into the Army and is included on his FA article (military service section) here at Wikipedia. ErnestKrause (talk) 17:51, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Even if we wanted a picture, I don't think it's possible to ever get one because no media was allowed, and he was in a vehicle that was all black when entering the base. They wanted his enlistment to be private as possible. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 19:03, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Here is the selfie which he is circulating himself on internet as reported in TMZ yesterday here [4]; its not an unflattering image and might work in the BTS article to indicate the formal start of the scheduled 3 year separation. What do you think? ErnestKrause (talk) 15:45, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

How could that image be used when it doesn't have a CCL? Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 02:31, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

It looks like BBC is also publishing the image of him as public domain. Since he is the 'author' of the image (the selfie) and since he has published it on his own website, then the international press has picked up the image as public domain. It looks like it can be included on Wikipedia as well if the BBC is joining in as well in publishing it as public domain. ErnestKrause (talk) 15:45, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

It's common for news outlets to use celebrities images for articles, but that doesn't mean the image is public domain. If you were to uploaded that image now, it would automatically be flagged as copyright, as it doesn't qualify under public domain. His image is protected by copyright. So unless he puts it under a Creative Commons license, we aren't allowed to use it. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 20:25, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

This is the BBC image in case you haven't seen it here [5]; maybe an A:B image would work here on Wikipedia like in the BBC article. ErnestKrause (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if it's used on a article it can't be used here. It's a copyrighted image. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 22:16, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

This other image from Billboard magazine is being marked as a 'courtesy' photo here [6]. ErnestKrause (talk) 18:10, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Same situation. It won't work. You won't be able to get a picture. The pictures you keep mentioning are all copyrighted. None of the pictures have a proper CCL, so it can't be used. Writers are allowed to use pictures for an article, but it's a complete different thing when we use it on here. We can't use the picture as we please. We need to have the permission from the copyright holder, otherwise you're using a picture without the copyright holder's acknowledgement, which isn't allowed on here. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 22:13, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

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Baby Monster titling

Hi! I was curious about the titling and case of Baby Monster’s page, as I’m aware it’s not spaced, but I also do not want people to be confused with this article, so would it be better if it were spaced out and capitalized? Thanks! Beulagpinkeu (talk) 12:51, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

New Year Greetings

New Years Greetings for 2023. You have likely seen Wehwalt's comments for 2023 on the BTS Talk page. Have you decided yet if the BTS page policy will be to include comments made about the group by the individual members of the band in the BTS article or not for 2023. ErnestKrause (talk) 15:13, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

I think it's fine to mention their military enlistments, I just wouldn't go into too much detail, though. But I'm pretty much in agreement with Wehwalt. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 20:26, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure anyone has done the math as yet, though Jungkook does not have to go into military service until 2027 due to his birth date. How does this affect the band re-uniting in 2025, or has this already been covered in the press? ErnestKrause (talk) 16:09, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

BTS' label said they would reunite in 2025, for that to be possible the younger members of BTS would have to enlist sooner than their required enlistment year. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 01:09, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Nice set of edits by you at the article yesterday. Regarding the question of doing the math for the military service dates, then it appears that they would all need to enroll by June 2024 of next year, if a reunion of the band before the end of 2025 is to be possible. I'm mentioning this becuase I haven't seen much comment from the individual band members about the reunion in 2025; only the general announcement from Hybe. Have you comment from any of the individual members about the 2025 reunion? ErnestKrause (talk) 15:33, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I haven't seen any specific comment made about the reunion, all I know is that the members will continue doing solo activities until they decide to enlist. I know Suga will be enlisting soon, as he doesn't have much time left. We can only take the word of the Hybe announcement. We'll see how things progress when the members make a move to regrading their service. For now, we just have to wait and see what happens until then. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 23:00, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Why are Music Festivals not needed?

Hi, I have noticed that you have removed "Music Festivals" from B.I's Live Performances section. May I know why do you think they're not needed? Since they're proper in-person live concerts with audience? Thanks. Bostonite01310 ^talk 02:32, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

I think that Music Festivals are relevant enough to be in this section. For example, the List of Taylor Swift live performances includes Music Festivals. Bostonite01310 ^talk 02:36, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't see how it's beneficial to have. I could understand if he held his own music festival, but that's not the case. Other Korean articles don't have a list dedicated to music festivals. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 03:08, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Since it is a list of live performances, not his personal concerts, I think it makes sense to have it in there. I don't think a comparison to other Korean articles is really accurate here; rather comparing it to other musicians' live performance list (like Taylor's list above) would be more appropriate I think. And in that list, music festivals are included. If you don't have a strong opposition to it, I'd like to put it back. Thanks. Bostonite01310 ^talk 03:24, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't need to be added back. He doesn't have an article of his live performances. Maybe in the near future it could be mentioned if an article was created for it. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 04:43, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

B.I's live performances

Hi,

I saw you deleted some information about fan meetings and festivals in the Live performances section of B.I's page yesterday, I hope it's ok to talk about it some more?

WP:KO/FANMEET is inconclusive. It's an interesting discussion, but I don't see any reason to indiscriminately delete information about fan meetings everywhere based on it. B.I's 2022 fan meetings were small scale concerts held in several Asian countries. They were actual live performances (as shown in the referenced news articles) and clearly the first step before he could organize actual offline concerts. So yes, it is meaningful to include these particular fan meetings in the list of his live performances. Rest assured they wouldn't be there if he had just talked and played some games during these events. Would it be fine if his 2022 fan meeting tour was listed under the Other live performances section instead? This Fan meetings subsection wasn't meant to be a list of all his fan meetings, rather a list of his live performances that happened to be called "fan meetings", but I can see why it bothered you.

Festivals are important to any musician's career (maybe even more in B.I's case, considering it's also the only kind of large scale promotion he had in the first years of his solo career). Saw your talk with @Bostonite01310, and I strongly disagree with the point you made there. Sure, if the list of his live performances gets too long, a dedicated page should be created for it, as per WP:WHENSPLIT. But, in the meanwhile, the absence of such a page is not a valid reason to omit relevant events from the list. It would be misleading instead, since Live performances lists usually include festivals. Why would we let readers think B.I didn't participate in any festival when he did? Nonetheless, if you think the Live performances section is too large compared to the rest of the article, maybe we can consider splitting it soon? The right way to do it would be to create the new article first, then delete the duplicated information from the original article. It would mean to restore what you deleted until the article is ready, but would that solve the issue?

Regards,

- DriftingLill (talk) 20:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Fan meets aren't of any value. Wikipedia isn't a WP:NOTDATABASE. I wouldn't include music festivals as of now, like I mentioned to the other editor. If you want to create an article for that, do that as you please. You can create in your sandbox, then go through the reviewing process of your article draft if you create it. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 21:52, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

These particular fan meetings are valuable information about B.I's career, because they were his first concert-like events after he debuted as a soloist, both in his own country and abroad. And by all means he performed his songs live in front of an audience there, nothing more should be needed to include them in a live performances list, no matter what they're called.

I don't understand what you're trying to achieve by deleting the information about the festivals he took part in, when you also agree it belongs in a Wikipedia article. If someone is to write a dedicated article about B.I's live performances, it will be a lot easier if the list on his artist page is complete and they can just split it into a new article. I'm not sure either why you would think that it's acceptable to have a "Live performances" list where half the performances are missing. As far as I'm concerned, that's the real issue here, and the only reason I'm writing all this. We can't leave that list as it is now, and writing a new article will take some time, I'm sure you're aware of it.

In brief, your changes made the article worse, and I don't see any way to solve this in the short run except reverting them. Would you let us do that, or do you have another solution to offer?

Regards,

- DriftingLill (talk) 00:55, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

• I agree with DriftingLill on this. Bostonite01310 ^talk 16:41, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Birth dates

How about putting the birth dates in small font in the Infobox by their names. This is the only way to learn about the range of their ages in the group which seems like useful info? ErnestKrause (talk) 16:40, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

We can't do that because there isn't an existing format for the Infobox to include that. If the reader is curious, they can click on the member's Wikipedia article link and found out more about them. No articles on here would have the birthdate in the Infobox for a group article, as that wouldn't make any sense. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 16:47, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Is there a way of getting the range of their ages into the article, maybe somewhere else? At this moment, all that is done is to list their collective names in order of their ages; that doesn't seem enough. ErnestKrause (talk) 16:54, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

It's not really common to mention the age of group members on any article. Usually that's how any article is when it comes to groups. This is the format for the Infobox musical artist for a group:[7] Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 17:04, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Dimash Kudaibergan

I answered you on my page, but since you probably didn't see it, I will bring it up again here

As you said, Dimash should be mentioned by his last name in the article.Dinmuhammed is his first name. he should be mentioned as "Kudaibergan" or "Qudaibergan"

Dimash was mentioned in the article as kudaibergan for many years until someone recently changed it Mehran uy1 (talk) 14:04, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Based off of the article name the last name Kudaibergen needs to be used accordingly. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 23:05, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Suga news

I'm reading one dozen RS articles which state that Suga must be enlisted in military by his birthday next month, and now I'm reading one dozen RS articles telling me that he has scheduled a solo concert tour in USA in April. Are you making some sense of this? One other article talk about his having a possible medical issues deferment as an exemption from military. What do you think? <ref>{{cite magazine|url=https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/music/bts-suga-announces-world-tour-army-reactions-8446811/ |title=BTS’ Suga announces solo world tour, relieved ARMY wonders if he is exempt from military service |last=Palat|first=Lakshana|date=February 15, 2023|magazine=The Indian Express |url-status=live|access-date=February 15, 2023}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20201106000791|title=BTS' Suga to take break following shoulder surgery: agency|date=November 6, 2020|agency=[[Yonhap News Agency|Yonhap]]|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201106161819/https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20201106000791|archive-date=November 6, 2020|url-status=live|access-date=March 14, 2021|via=[[The Korea Herald]]}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.teenvogue.com/story/bts-suga-shoulder-surgery-update|title=BTS Member Suga Updated Fans About His Shoulder Surgery|last=Rearick|first=Lauren|date=November 22, 2020|work=[[Teen Vogue]]|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201122155550/https://www.teenvogue.com/story/bts-suga-shoulder-surgery-update|archive-date=November 22, 2020|url-status=live|access-date=March 14, 2021}}</ref> ErnestKrause (talk) 18:26, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

As far as I know, Suga will still carry out his mandatory military service. As long as he enlistments before he hits 31 he should be good to go. He will have time to do his solo tour, as he will still remain 30 until then. Even though has a sustained a shoulder injury, he can still serve. There is another Korean artist by the name Shownu who also, has the same injury as Suga but is still in service as of now. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 19:19, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Your current Talk page set-up is putting my references above into nowiki format, which does not allow you to read them. Regarding Suga and military, the version you state is the opposite of what happened with Jin where newspapers were stating that he must go into service before his 30th birthday, which he did do. Now for Suga you seem to state the opposite, namely that it is not before becoming 30 years old, but you are adding an extra year. I'm not sure that works, since the reliable sources need to be consistent for Jin on the one hand and for Suga on the other hand. Its either 30 for both of them, or 31 foe both of them, and needs to be the same? ErnestKrause (talk) 17:37, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Because of the postponement, Jin could have enlisted up until the 1st quarter of 2023, but he opted to cancel his postponement and enlisted. Where Suga has not canceled his and will fully use it until it expires. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 20:42, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Boys Planet

The other article Boys Planet (TV show) and List of Boys Planet contestants needs a history merge but an IP user edited it and put a redirect tag. — 9️⃣8️⃣🐯♒️•(🆃🅰🅻🅺) 04:30, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

There really is no need to have the Boys Planet (TV show) article, as it doesn't need to be disambiguated. I just put it up for deletion. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 04:47, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Alright thanks. Happy editing. — 9️⃣8️⃣🐯♒️•(🆃🅰🅻🅺) 04:53, 27 February 2023 (UTC)