BunnyDee
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Comic Book Extras has been proposed for deletion. An editor felt this webcomic might not be notable enough for an article. Please review WP:WEB for relevant guidelines. If you can improve the article to address these concerns, please do so.
If no one objects to the deletion within five days by removing the prod notice, the article may be deleted without further discussion. NickelShoe (Talk) 03:12, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Webcomics
editAh, a fellow webcomics fan. Welcome to Wikipedia. Please don't take it too badly if the article you submitted is put up for deletion: The track record for most webcomics on Wikipedia is pretty bad. The best way to get it to stay here is to reference those "greek comics-related publications" you mentioned; finding and citing good sources is the essence of the guidelines for websites. Regardless, enjoy your stay, and make sure to check out the Wikipedia:WikiProject Webcomics. Nifboy 06:02, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- ...And now someone put the article up for deletion. If you have any good sources now's the time to bring 'em out, else I'll just copy the article over to Comixpedia. Nifboy 06:16, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
....Thanks for your support... I only have one referencable source about this, the other one is printed (and I don't receive a subscribtion or anything, I live in the UK). Trouble with both is, it's in Greek... There is a link to the website at http://www.comicdom.gr/stripshow.php but the article is changed every second Wednesday, so I don't know exactly how long it's going to be up for (I think they added it last Wednesday), and most people won't be able to read it I figure. Anyway, if you can add it to comixpedia I'd really appreciate it, I tried to do that at first but I'm not familiar with that either and I'm pretty sure it redirected me here... or something... BunnyDee 06:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- I've already copied the contents of the article over. But post the online source and say what the offline source is over on the deletion discussion. Nifboy 06:30, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. I already posted all of my sources, although I'm not sure they'll do... Indeed, there seems to be loads of "prejudice" against webcomics here, good thing that comixpedia exists... Thanks a lot for copying the article - I'm only just starting to get the hang of this here (and doing pretty badly I see) BunnyDee 06:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- I wouldn't call it "prejudice" so much as it is a heuristic: "We've seen over a hundred webcomics with barely a dozen articles in the archive, and here's another one". Certainly my webcomic doesn't deserve an article here any more than I do. Nifboy 06:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Heh, call it what you may, it's tough for webcomics on wikipedia... Just checked the copied article out on comixpedia, thanks for that... And I checked your webcomic out, I love stick figure stuff, and it looks funny - I might visit once every so often, I added it to my bookmarks :)
- Well, I haven't updated my comic in nearly two years now, and haven't updated regularly in three. I just like pointing it out as an example of why we have standards for webcomic articles. Nifboy 07:22, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Heh, call it what you may, it's tough for webcomics on wikipedia... Just checked the copied article out on comixpedia, thanks for that... And I checked your webcomic out, I love stick figure stuff, and it looks funny - I might visit once every so often, I added it to my bookmarks :)
- I wouldn't call it "prejudice" so much as it is a heuristic: "We've seen over a hundred webcomics with barely a dozen articles in the archive, and here's another one". Certainly my webcomic doesn't deserve an article here any more than I do. Nifboy 06:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. I already posted all of my sources, although I'm not sure they'll do... Indeed, there seems to be loads of "prejudice" against webcomics here, good thing that comixpedia exists... Thanks a lot for copying the article - I'm only just starting to get the hang of this here (and doing pretty badly I see) BunnyDee 06:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the help and support BunnyDee 07:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Nifboy has pretty much voiced my feelings on the topic. Comixpedia will always be a better source of information for webcomics, particularly less well-known ones, but I think we do a good job here as well. Despite the number of deletions, we still have a healthy list of webcomics, and the webcomics wikiproject is fairly active. It is unfortunate that you encountered AfD so early on. It's not the friendliest place and often leaves a bad first impression on new Wikipedians. I myself have several webcomics I'd like to add, but I've decided to wait until I can beat off a WP:WEB challenge before posting them. –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 23:24, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yep, it did kind of scare me at the beginning... I still think I can contribute some info however, in less "debateable" areas, and at least the whole experience helped me learn a few things about how wikipedia "works", through experience.
I wanted to contribute a few more webcomics-related things for example, but I now think they would fit in much better in comixpedia... At least my "self-referential webcomics" addition to the general webcomics article remained, including my reference to Checkerboard Nightmare there, which I personally consider quite important and influential in certain respects. Thanks for your support too, I think it's people who show some interest in others' personal qualms here that make it a much less hostile environment for new Wikipedians and can counter these "scary" first impressions in the long run.
- yes I understand the feeling as well, and I'm going to let them know in every case i come across. Deletion is simply their easy way out, and i think they get a kick out of wagging the tiger by the tail, using this weakness of wiki to stamp articles they dont like. Its a lot harder to discuss and help build an article than to knife it to death. so hang in there, maybe we can form a group to vote on articles as and when they do this afd PRIOR to discussion. We should insist that discussion takes place every time BEFORE any forcing of voting. dunno, but at least we are made aware of what it takes. I simply dont like mean spirited-ness and I want to see more nurture and patience, more good faith..moza 14:15, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
- Hmmm... Count me in if there is a group like that eventually... I really think it could do the place some good... I'm not really sure how the discussion is taken into consideration as of yet when an article is to be deleted, but even the fact that it will be there instead of just people "bashing" it could be an improvement. The person who wrote the article in the first place, at least, could be allowed or even required to state their case. Assuming they have one of course - I'm sure there are cases of "why not" articles around ;) BunnyDee 00:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)