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Monroe County photos
editThanks for the Monroe County NRHP photos — being in Western Ohio, there's no way that I can imagine getting to Monroe County myself. I was curious: would you be willing to reupload them to Commons? If you don't want to expend the energy, they could be done by someone else, but it would be simpler if the copyright holder uploaded them. Nyttend (talk) 16:35, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- Even more thanks for the Barnesville Petroglyph! I've read about it in several places, and I have a sketch in my digital copy of W.C. Mills' Archeological Atlas of Ohio, but it's better yet to see a (free) picture of the site. Nyttend (talk) 04:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- Several points:
- Is Mills correct in saying that the Petroglyph is southeast of Barnesville? I saw some random online source that said southwest or northeast or something like that.
- I don't have any information on the Opartny Village Site. I've looked for information, but I can't find anything. Mills' Atlas doesn't show any villages anywhere near the current location of I70
- Thanks for finding the details for the Tower Site! Are you sure that it's northwest of Barnesville? I've found a location that fits every detail of the description, except that it's almost exactly west of Barnesville. While it's only about three miles to the west, I'd guess that it might be a four-mile drive from the northwestern side of Barnesville if you went out of the village on W. Main St., past the airport. I found the location by searching USGS topographical maps for radio towers, which are generally marked on these maps, so I doubt that there's one northwest of Barnesville that doesn't appear here. To get the map, see the USGS location for the Barker Cemetery — click http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis538/getgooglemap?p_lat=39.9786815&p_longi=-81.2337216&fid=1037634, select the "Topo" option (don't zoom in all the way, or it won't display), and observe the radio tower along Track Rock Rd. a short distance to the northeast, at the top of a 1373-foot summit between a small stream to the west and a small stream to the south. Check the "Terrain" tag if you can't see the streams clearly.
- Have you checked the local history section in the Barnesville, Bethesda, or St. Clairsville libraries? I wish I had this kind of local information; if I didn't live near enough to the Dunns Pond Mound or the nearby Lake Ridge Island Mounds, I'd have had no idea where they were located. Nyttend (talk) 03:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- That's the location of the Track Rocks? It's the same location as the radio tower that I mentioned. Thanks for the details! By the way — please don't think that I know Belmont County well; I've never been in the county, other than on I70 and the I70 bypass of Wheeling. I've never even visited Monroe County. Nyttend (talk) 03:39, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- Just a note — I see that you've used nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com as a source for the area of districts. At WP:NRHP, we've realised that its area figures are normally off by a factor of 10; therefore, it's best to source the area under the same reference that comes in the infobox, as it provides correct area figures. Nyttend (talk) 02:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- That's the location of the Track Rocks? It's the same location as the radio tower that I mentioned. Thanks for the details! By the way — please don't think that I know Belmont County well; I've never been in the county, other than on I70 and the I70 bypass of Wheeling. I've never even visited Monroe County. Nyttend (talk) 03:39, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- Several points:
S Bridge
editThanks for drawing my attention to this — the problem was that I made a coding error that resulted in the bridge being hidden. I too strongly believe that NHLs should be included (see {{NRHP in Beaver County, Pennsylvania}}, which I designed). Nyttend (talk) 01:06, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
First United Methodist Church (Woodsfield, Ohio)
editHi. I felt I had to inform you that I had to remove the address from the article per item #3 of this policy. ArcAngel (talk) 05:45, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- With regards to this article, since it appears that others have a different interpretation of the policy section than I do I have reverted my change thereby reinstating the street address to this article, and I apologize for intruding. ArcAngel (talk) 09:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
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Sarchet House
editSorry to say that I had to delete the Peter Sarchet House picture. It's definitely not a HABS image; as you will see if you click on any of the Guernsey County links here, the only HABS/HAER pictures in Guernsey County are bridges, and the presence of not-yet-scanned images shows that the entire HABS database is recorded here: there aren't HABS pictures of any other buildings in the county. Nyttend (talk) 04:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
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editI've enjoyed reading your articles on the Ohio county courthouses. Keep it up! Nyttend (talk) 00:40, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
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NRHP in Harrison County
editWith this edit, you've placed photos for all seven Harrison County listings. At Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places, you can find a list of fully-illustrated lists, including county sections of statewide lists; I've accordingly added Harrison County to the list. Thanks for contributing these images; any idea if you can get the last remaining Guernsey County sites anytime soon? Nyttend (talk) 05:08, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note. Are you certain that you have the right locations? The coordinates that the NRIS provides are sometimes in error, but the original nomination forms will have maps. While the forms for these sites aren't online, you can get them for free: simply email nr_reference@nps.gov with a note of which properties and which mailing address to which to send the forms, and you'll get them in the mail. You can also find a photo of the Finley house here. Of course, if you've already checked these and you're sure that you have the right locations, could you perhaps get a picture of the site of the destroyed house and a picture from behind the fence? I've often used photos of empty lots where destroyed buildings were located; see the Botkins Elementary School and Port Jefferson School on the Shelby County list for an example of what I've used. Nyttend (talk) 17:00, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, this is delisted. You can tell by the different years: it was listed in 1979 (shown by the first two digits in the reference number), but its date is 1980, and the NRHP's date for a delisted property is always the date when it was delisted. I'll get back to you when I have more information. Nyttend (talk) 00:40, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- The property was listed on 23 July 1979, per page 27 of this NRHP document, a catalogue of listings in 1979 and early 1980. Its delisting doesn't seem to appear either in that document or in this one, which includes the rest of 1980 and part of 1981, so I don't know where you'll find it. However, Elkman's generator will tell you what you need to know: among other things, see that it says, "This property may not actually be listed on the National Register - listing code is RN". The "RN" code means "Removed from National Register", so there's no doubt that it was once listed but has been removed. Thanks for finding this site; our coverage of former listings is overall far sparser than our coverage of current listings, due to the paucity of information on them. I'll add a small former-listing table to the Belmont County list momentarily. In the future, if you want to look at pages like the 1979/1980 catalogue, go here and click on the requisite document from the column on the far left side of the page. Nyttend (talk) 00:51, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- By the way, the "nrhp website" that you mention is a faulty mirror — it basically took the entire NRHP database and put it online with plenty of errors, including the failure to remove former listings. Except as a starting point from which to search other sources, don't trust it or use it as a reference, because it's not reliable. Nyttend (talk) 00:54, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- The property was listed on 23 July 1979, per page 27 of this NRHP document, a catalogue of listings in 1979 and early 1980. Its delisting doesn't seem to appear either in that document or in this one, which includes the rest of 1980 and part of 1981, so I don't know where you'll find it. However, Elkman's generator will tell you what you need to know: among other things, see that it says, "This property may not actually be listed on the National Register - listing code is RN". The "RN" code means "Removed from National Register", so there's no doubt that it was once listed but has been removed. Thanks for finding this site; our coverage of former listings is overall far sparser than our coverage of current listings, due to the paucity of information on them. I'll add a small former-listing table to the Belmont County list momentarily. In the future, if you want to look at pages like the 1979/1980 catalogue, go here and click on the requisite document from the column on the far left side of the page. Nyttend (talk) 00:51, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, this is delisted. You can tell by the different years: it was listed in 1979 (shown by the first two digits in the reference number), but its date is 1980, and the NRHP's date for a delisted property is always the date when it was delisted. I'll get back to you when I have more information. Nyttend (talk) 00:40, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Photos from here and there and everywhere
editI'm impressed: how do you get the time to go to Greenville and Washington Courthouse? Nyttend (talk) 02:38, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
- Ah; I had thought that you were uploading photos as soon as you took them. Now I'm not so amazed that you could get up to Defiance and do everything else in such short order :-) You're not the only traveller who helps with NRHP photos: Billwhittaker is an archaeologist who's always travelling around Iowa. Thanks, as always Nyttend (talk) 13:09, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
WikiBirthday
editI saw from here that it's been exactly three years since you joined the project. Happy WikiBirthday! Keep up the good work, rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 05:40, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Separate Noble County list
editJust curious, why split out Noble County from National Register of Historic Places listings in Ohio? Simply that the statewide page is too large, or some other reason? Nyttend (talk) 21:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
- I noticed when I went to print the article out that it was an unwieldy 16 pages (in PDF format). I split the Noble County section from its parent to allow a seperate entry and also since I will be adding the rest of the pictures for the entry hopefully before the upcoming holiday. On a seperate note, I also found out that one of the sites in Guernsey County is indeed demolished. I have an old print provided by the NRHP showing the house and was wondering if that falls under fair use and can be posted to Wikipedia. Bwsmith84 (talk) 22:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
- I would say yes and no: yes, you could use it on the article, but no, you couldn't use it on the list. Did you go to the site? If so, did you photograph it? Forgive me if I've said this before, but I'd advise you to photograph sites of destroyed buildings and add them to the lists. Nyttend (talk) 04:43, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for adding the additional pictures to the list — and for using one of my images :-) — I had meant to do that eventually, but I'd not gotten around to it yet. Nyttend (talk) 21:17, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- I would say yes and no: yes, you could use it on the article, but no, you couldn't use it on the list. Did you go to the site? If so, did you photograph it? Forgive me if I've said this before, but I'd advise you to photograph sites of destroyed buildings and add them to the lists. Nyttend (talk) 04:43, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Photo request
editDo you know if you'd be able to get up to Mount Pleasant in Jefferson County any time soon? There are two National Historic Landmarks in Mount Pleasant — one house, plus a district that includes most of the village — that have no pictures. Nyttend (talk) 22:19, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
- I guess the answer is yes :-) Check the usage on these images; each can be used in at least three articles. Nyttend (talk) 22:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- I was out today and passed the Friends Meetinghouse (Mount Pleasant, Ohio) but completely forgot it was on the register. I guess that means another trip sometime up there... Bwsmith84 (talk) 22:53, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- I was hoping that you'd gotten it as well and just not uploaded it yet...oh well :-) I've twice been along Upper Prospect Street in Cleveland, where there are tons of NRHP-listed properties, and both times I was there to get NRHP pictures, but I've missed a few properties both times. Nyttend (talk) 23:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- How did you find the Brokaw Site? Nyttend (talk) 23:12, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- I did some digging in the St.C. and OUE Library and found an accurate description of the archaeological site. Armed with this info I went to the location I thought it should be, and luckily the owner came out and verified it as the Brokaw Site. He guaranteed the authenticity by a plaque and certified papers on the site. I was allowed to photograph it as long as I did not reveal its true exact location. It truly is a remarkable location, albeit the site is so delicate that I couldn't walk the actual site but was confined to its perimeter. Bwsmith84 (talk) 02:14, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- How did you find the Brokaw Site? Nyttend (talk) 23:12, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- I was hoping that you'd gotten it as well and just not uploaded it yet...oh well :-) I've twice been along Upper Prospect Street in Cleveland, where there are tons of NRHP-listed properties, and both times I was there to get NRHP pictures, but I've missed a few properties both times. Nyttend (talk) 23:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- I was out today and passed the Friends Meetinghouse (Mount Pleasant, Ohio) but completely forgot it was on the register. I guess that means another trip sometime up there... Bwsmith84 (talk) 22:53, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Another photo
editI like the S Bridge II photo; I never realised from the old picture that it was sloped. Curious on a couple of things — is the end of the bridge from which you photographed it really a lot higher than the other end? And are the little posts visible in the foreground of the old one still there? Nyttend (talk) 14:28, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- The S Bridge II does slope upwards as it stretches east over the little creek below. The posts are still there, and another road runs up the hill. A nice landscaped park is on either side of the S bridge and a path runs down to the underside of the bridge allowing you to see the base and arch of the bridge. Hope you've enjoyed the pictures. Here is a comparison below. Bwsmith84 (talk) 20:15, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
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Then
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Now
Oh, on another note of interest, John Glenn was raised on the hill by this bridge, which was located behind me to the right. The house was later moved down the hill and onto the junction of Friendship Drive and Main Street, but was moved to its current location further downtown on Main Street. Bwsmith84 (talk) 20:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds interesting; I'd love to visit New Concord, as I know a couple of men who grew up in New Concord with John Glenn, but I've never been closer to the village than I-70. Nice collection of pictures from today; I wish I could have been out photographing, but I didn't get the chance. I'm waiting (for quite a while, at this rate) for the snow to let up so that I can get a non-snow-covered picture of the Carl Potter Mound in Champaign County; right now, I'm almost done with Shelby, Auglaize, and Champaign counties. As always, thanks for the photos! Nyttend (talk) 04:31, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
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Tower Site?
editCurious, have you ever gotten out to get the photo of the Tower Site? Nyttend (talk) 23:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- Great job on finishing off the Guernsey County list! Have you seen the photo of the Ebenezer Finley House on its Ohio Historical Society profile? It's no wonder the house was destroyed — the picture shows a large tree that has fallen on the roof. Nyttend (talk) 03:35, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
File:Wilcox-Mills House.jpg and others..
editIt would be much appreicated if you could give an approximate date for the building shown, at the very least knowing it's pre 1992 (when there was a change about architectural copyrights) would be useful. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- I am not sure as to what date you are requesting. Are you asking for the build date, or the date the photograph was taken? Bwsmith84 (talk) 18:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- If possible both :) The important one is the 'build date' because if it's post 1992, the rules about taking pictures of architectural works in the US are different to those for buildings constructed prior to 1992.
File:National Road Mile Markers Numbers 8 9 10 11 13 14.jpg
editGreat image! I really like the montage idea. Nyttend (talk) 13:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! I was wondering what to do with that particular entry, as there were 6 of those markers, so a montage was the easiest to do. I am glad the weather is finally breaking. Can't wait to see more pictures from down in your area again. Bwsmith84 (talk) 22:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
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