User talk:Carabinieri/Archive8
DYK
editThanks again, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:17, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Please read this article instead of just mindlessly writing, "What is so unusual about that?" Anybody in politics would see Duncan Hunter running fifth in the Republican race below only the four first tier candidates is unusual. Most thought his campaign was a joke but now he is getting endorsements from Chuck Yeager and Ann Coulter it is very unusual and very interesting. Please tell me how you think that it is not unusual?--Southern Texas 16:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- I would like for this article to put on the DYK but I am having difficulty coming up with a hook that everybody likes. Any suggestions?--Southern Texas 01:54, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
DYK
edit--W.marsh 16:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
DYK comments
editNo offense, but is a rebuttal to my argument to your "quip" to my DYK nod too much to ask? I do have a right to at least get that much from my fellow peers. As is, your silence only shows that you don't really care about DYK at best, and this is my latest venture into DYK since June 5th. Imagine if I was a newbie contributor to DYK. If you can't even bother to backup your statements or reply to my rebuttal, why even bother posting the faults? --293.xx.xxx.xx 07:46, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry for taking so long to respond. I'm on vacation in Portugal only have access to the internet ocasionally. I'm assuming you're referring to the Mathman nomination. The reason I did not respond to your rebuttal is that I thought the decision whether or not this entry should be used was borderline. On the one hand, you're right, "making it five-fold does not equate to adding more words alone". On the other hand, DYK has to draw the line somewhere. The people involved in DYK decided to make it a rule that expansions have to be at least fivefold (in words). If we don't enforce this rule, it's meaningless and anyone can claim that their expansion can't be counted in words alone. I could not decide which way to go, therefore I decided not to respond and let the admin updating DYK decide whether your nomination should qualify.--Carabinieri 21:07, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Military history WikiProject coordinator selection
editThe Military history WikiProject coordinator selection process is starting. We are looking to elect nine coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by August 14! Kirill 02:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi Carbinieri. Thanks for putting up the pic. It's a while since I had a pic there and it was nice to have a long 30k article to go with it. Pity it only lasted 7 hours....Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:22, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
DYK
editThanks for doing a DYK with one of my articles in it. DYK looks like a big old chore to me, but I'm glad that it gets done. --Tagishsimon (talk)
Military history WikiProject coordinator election
editThe Military history WikiProject coordinator election has begun. We will be selecting nine coordinators from a pool of fourteen candidates to serve for the next six months. Please vote here by August 28! Wandalstouring 09:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
editTrade unions in Tanzania
editJust happened to be checking my watchlist, and I saw this. Very nice! Cheers,--Bookandcoffee 09:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot.--Carabinieri 09:09, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
editDYK nom
editI saw this didn't go in with the other ones you updated, so I tweaed the page a bit and added it in. Hopwfully I didn't mess your update up. --Wizardman 14:33, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't use it because I try to avoid using more than two entries related to any one country in my updates. But currently, we don't have enough non-US-related entries anyway.--Carabinieri 14:37, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks again for all your work.Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:30, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
The above is incorrect: "Centre." --Ludvikus 13:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
The correct spelling of the forth term is: "Center". After being away (not through my choice) I've forgotten how to "redirect." Wiki editors - please correct & cleanup. --Ludvikus 13:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
DYK nom
editI have replied at some length to your comments on the FAC . Thank you for finding the Pack/Peck typo. I hope you will not insist on bad writing as the price of your support. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:57, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, but I just love bad writing.--Carabinieri 00:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
editRe: Grassy balds (now Appalachian balds)
editI removed the image from this DYK which you added to the update template; the image is no longer in the article, and was removed with the edit summary "new images showing actual balds" suggesting that the original image was in error. I don't think the substituted images are likely to be particularly attractive @100x100px, but I'll leave it to you to make another selection. Espresso Addict 00:23, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help. I've added the Ninoshima image instead.--Carabinieri 00:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- Cheers. That's a striking image. Espresso Addict 00:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
A DYK Barnstar
editThe Tireless Contributor Barnstar | ||
As one of the top four contributors to Template talk:Did you know among the 2,229 unique editors to that page, you deserve this barnstar. Thank you! Jreferee (Talk) 04:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC) |
Thanks a lot.--Carabinieri 05:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Replaceable fair use Image:Jutta_Limbach.jpg
editThanks for uploading Image:Jutta_Limbach.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:
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Fantastic Universe FAC
editHi -- just a quick note to say I've made some changes in response to your comments at the Fantastic Universe FAC. I hope those changes fix the problems. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 11:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
DYK
edit--Peta 10:27, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Thought you might like to know that the above article is, if I count correctly, the 25th article User:Polylerus has created which have been included in the DYK section. I think that could be verified by counting the number of notices on his talk page. John Carter 14:43, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know if you already know this, but there is a List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs you might be interested in.--Carabinieri 14:56, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Image at DYK for Saint Aphrodisius
editI note you added an image to the hook I'd previously added to DYK. The reason I didn't add the image was that I was unsure of its precise copyright status. In particular, the rationale for use of the photograph states that the image was taken in the US, yet it is sourced from a French website, which seems to give no source information. Cheers, Espresso Addict 18:29, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Just to let you know that i have responded to your comment on the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Victoria Cross for New Zealand. The article goes into detail on the metal used in the original VC because the same metal is used for the VC for NZ. I therefore think that it is perfectly reasonable for this article to talk about it. (The only separate award that is not made out of the original metal is the Victoria Cross (Canada) and this info is not included on that page.) Do you have any further comments? thanks Woodym555 23:43, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Free Association of German Trade Unions
editWow, you've done a ton of work on this article. It looks great. I noticed that you took the {{organized labour portal}} tag off the article for WP:ASR. I guess it's pretty easy to see that I don't agree (as I'm the one who added most of the tags to labour articles!) But I don't want to fight about it... I'm all for figuring out what the right thing to do is - so I asked the question at Wikipedia talk:Avoid self-references#Portals to get the ball rolling. I wanted to let you know, because, as I said, I'm not really trying to push my point here, I just want to know how we should resolve this. Feel free to comment, and I imagine I'll carry my opinon as well. Cheers, --Bookandcoffee 03:40, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- No - don't worry about offending me! I'm happy to just disagree about this - it's not a big deal. I certainly won't put the tag back on the FVdG article. I can see your point about the portals, as they do, in a sense, become an extension of the wikiproject. BTW, the feeling is mutual - I'm always impressed by the work you do. Cheers, Chris --Bookandcoffee 22:48, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
RE: SR West Country and Battle of Britain Classes FAC suggestions...
editThank you for highlighting a couple of issues for me to address. I have undertaken steps to ensure they are remedied, and hope you are satisfied with the result. If not, then by all means, post any further issues on the nomination page. Once again, thank you.--Bulleid Pacific 12:39, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, I see what you meant. Ok, thank-you again.--Bulleid Pacific 13:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
TPON FAC
editI have responded to your complaints on The Power of Nightmares' FAC. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 15:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Preformationism
editYou don't have an awards page or one highlighting your DYK contribs
editMight I ask why? You're one of the few, few users I've seen who doesn't mention things like these. BrokenSphereMsg me 15:59, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- I just don't think that's very important. I'm not here for the awards. The articles I wrote or contributed to that I like are on my user page and I think that's good enough.--Carabinieri 16:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- You're a rare breed. That's commendable. BrokenSphereMsg me 16:11, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks.--Carabinieri 17:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Systematic bias
editHello.I am one of Turkish Wikipedia's users.I wondered sth. and found you on administators' category.Do you think that English Wikipedia is England's or/and America's or/and other English speaking countries' own Wikipedia?Or Do you sometimes make systematic biases to come to a decision while preparing main page?I mean do you add on main page some local issues.I just wonder that.I don't log in so often on this Wiki, so please send your message to my Turkish Wiki talk page.Thank you.Sincerely.Saglamci 22:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your interest.I have the answer that i need to defense my opinion.Also I want to thank you for your sincere answer.By the way i think that if all wikis make systematic biases, no one will be disturbed :)))))) .İt is just joking of course.
Greetings
FA review for Alan Kippax
editThanks for your review. You seem to misunderstand a convention used in commonwealth English; when writing about a cricket season that occurs in the southern hemisphere, it is common usage to say "in 1925-26...". Refer to WP:Cricket and you will see what I mean. As for the issue of POV, these are all quotes from people who saw the man play and are fully referenced. If you follow your reasoning to its logical conclusion, then any description of any person using adjectives becomes POV. Therefore, how are we to write biography? No other reviewer has commented on this point. Phanto282 06:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I have attempted a compromise as regards Southern England, South East England and South West England. Please check to see if it meets your satisfacion. Thank you.--Bulleid Pacific 13:18, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- It definately does, thanks.--Carabinieri 13:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
About Franco Freda DYK
editHi, thanks a lot for the DYK! However there is an error in its final edit as published in the main page . The Piazza Fontana bombing was at first believed to have been done by anarchists, not communists! --Cyclopia 21:59, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up.--Carabinieri 22:00, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
editI am wikifying / creating articles related to certain neglected fields of Indian history, and it is a good news that these neglected topics are receiving attention, as fron you. -Vinay_Jha 12:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
DYK
editThanks for fixing up my lousy hook :) Daniel 06:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
editI think you forgot to credit the DYK page creator.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- You seem to have been editing today, but still have not credited User:Shsilver--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- I've done so now. The reason I didn't do this before is that you did not mention Shsilver was the creator of the article in your nomination as the top of the suggestions page calls for. BTW, all you have to do to notifiy someone of the inclusion of their articles on DYK is add a little template to that user's talk page as explained on WP:DYK/N, you could've done so yourself.--Carabinieri 22:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XVIII (August 2007)
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DYK suggestion
editMany thanks for letting me know the addition of Coptic architecture on DYK , May I suggest information from Holy family in Egypt for DYK section as well? --Ghaly 18:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- DYK generally only uses facts from articles that are not stubs, i.e. have at least 1,500 characters of prose (not lists, references, templates, infoboxes, etc.), so I'm afraid that article is currently not eligible. The criteria are listed in more detail at T:TDYK and WP:DYK.--Carabinieri 20:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Carnivàle FAC
editHello. I have addressed your concerns at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Carnivàle. Is this sufficient to change your vote to support? (I'm only asking because the article has been a FAC forever and is currently the 8th to last FAC out of 60, and it may not make it to FA if the oppose votes remain even though I addressed the concerns/gave a rationale why I didn't address them.) Greetings :-) – sgeureka t•c 21:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
editKippax FAC
editHello. You seem to have made a mistake. Both comments are in quotation marks and are direct quotes from reliable sources. As such, they cannot be POV. --Dweller 08:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
High mileage
editHigh mileage contributor | |
For a level of production that even the bosses would have trouble complaining about! Thanks for your outstanding efforts on Wikipedia in general, and organized labour in particular. --Bookandcoffee 04:36, 6 August 2007 (UTC) |
- Thanks.--Carabinieri 20:41, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
John Frusciante FAC
editWe need a bit more input and clarification from you at John Frusciante's FAC. Thanks for your time. Grim-Gym 15:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
- I realized that the issues you raised were quite minor, and since you seem too busy to offer any further input, I just fixed them. I hope you can find the time to look over the changes, and if everything is satisfactory, endorse the article. Thanks. Grim-Gym 14:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
DYK
editHi, looks like neither me nor other contributors have been informed about articles featured today in DYK section on the front page. Obviously, this is not going to change anything in my life, but I just want you to know. I have no idea who is in charge today, I am writing to you as you have informed me about DYK features. Greetings Tymek 19:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
- No problem, if I caused some mess, forgive me. Tymek 03:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- You didn't cause any mess at all. Thanks for making me aware a mistake had been made at DYK.--Carabinieri 04:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
edit--Allen3 talk 22:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Carabinieri for your ongoing work. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Lauren Cohen (economist)
editI am finding some things and not finding other for Lauren Cohen (economist). He has several independent sources. I have added a couple of citations. Let me know if I have got enough yet. I am still looking for others.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 00:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'm afraid that's not enough to satisfy WP:PROF.--Carabinieri 00:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I was going by Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Public domain, which says:
- {{PD-art-US}} — for images of 2-D (flat) works of art published in the United States prior to 1923.
I don't know if this was actually published before 1923 in the US, as it was published in Germany originally. However, prompted by your post, I have now discovered for the first time {{PD-US-1923-abroad}}, which says:
- This image is in the public domain in the United States because it was first published outside the United States prior to January 1, 1923. Other jurisdictions have other rules, and this image might not be in the public domain outside the United States and should not be transferred to Wikimedia Commons unless it can be verified to be in the public domain in its country of first publication. Also note that this image may not be in the public domain in the 9th Federal Court District if it was published after July 1, 1909.
Even so, I understand images shouldn't be uploaded under such a permit, unless the image is also out of copyright in the country where the uploader resides — and it would seem possibly in the 9th Federal Court District also. Is that California? If so, it's OK for wiki servers in Florida then.
Since I wrote the above, some further investigation has revealed the text on {{PD-art-US}} just says published before 1923, not published in US before 1923. I have amended the description on Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Public domain to reflect this and left a note on the talk page there, so it looks as though it can be used after all, at least by those uploading from the US (apart from 9th Fed maybe) and other countries where the same time period applies. It seems to make {{PD-US-1923-abroad}} redundant.
I have changed the template on Image:Bleyl-Poster.jpg, as you suggested.
Tyrenius 03:44, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds good.--Carabinieri 04:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- We just edited in the same minute! Tyrenius 04:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC
Pictures from Amsterdam
editHey, you are two weeks too late. I will move to Germany soon and have no time to go to any museum anymore. What a pity, i would have liked to! Alte Dame
- That's too bad.--Carabinieri 00:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Probably T.Tichelaar could help you (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:T._Tichelaar). He seems to live in Amsterdam. Or at least writes articles about stuff there. And he puts pictures in Wikipedia Netherlands. Alte Dame —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.85.133.102 (talk) 17:41, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Lauren Cohen (economist)
editNew information making him a notable athlete, I believe. Please reconsider.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:11, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
edit--Allen3 talk 15:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
--Allen3 talk 15:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks again Carabinieri.Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:50, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
My nomination
editI withdrew my nomination of Buck Dozier and replaced it with a nomination of the article Rob Briley. Daniel Bush 04:37, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Li Causi nomination
editI commented on your comment. - Mafia Expert 06:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
DYK image
editI'm not a veteran at this, but shouldn't the image that DYK was just updated with be protected? Or am I mixed up somehow? -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 11:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- The image is protected, because of the cascading protection of the main page.--Carabinieri 11:32, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- Ahh, of course. Temporary mind lapse. I keep forgetting about the cascading protection. -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 11:37, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Lauren H. Cohen
editCan I request early closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lauren Cohen (economist), which you nominated for AFD and which seems headed for a keep or no consensus, so I can get it DYKed today its last day of eligibility?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 12:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- I still hold that the article does not meet the notability standards and should be deleted and I do not believe that the deletion discussion is necessarily headed for keep or no consensus. I have further explained this in the discussion. From a vote standpoint, there are still quite a few more delete than keep votes, from a reasonable standpoint, I believe I have shown that the article fails all notability standards.--Carabinieri 13:01, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Exceptions
editAre there DYK exceptions of either posting a DYK under AFD debate or posting a timely nominated DYK after its AFD has run its course even if this is 7 or 8 days after the start of the article.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 16:29, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- Entries will sometimes be used even if they have been expired for a few days.--Carabinieri 05:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Can you help
editI had nominated The Harvey School for DYK ... which I think you moved to next update of DYK at about 6:00 today ... thanks. However it has now disaapeared from any list I can find. Is this normal? Victuallers 12:44, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
DYK update
editI did it in a hurry and it was the first time I'd done it. Next time I'll remember to use the stuff in "next update". Daniel Case 16:55, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know about your objection. It surprises me that you would think it non-unusual. It would be like the MGM-era Lucille Ball having inspired Pablo Picasso. Robert K S 18:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, you supported this at FAC recently. The nom has now been restarted by Raul (Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/SR_West_Country_and_Battle_of_Britain_Classes#SR_West_Country_and_Battle_of_Britain_Classes). Two weeks later, I'm the only reviewer. I'm impressed that, despite being supported by a large wikiproject, they haven't piled on "project supports", and so I thought I'd see if you'd like to revisit the nomination and consider commenting again. Thanks, J.Winklethorpe talk 21:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Request for images
editHi Carabinieri, regarding your request for images, I would be pleased to help and free some images. Can you please contact me via my email page so we can follow-up on this via eMail? Cheers, --Volty 17:39, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
DYK
editThanks for coming to the rescue of the Pátio do Colégio article from the expired nominations! Fsouza 18:41, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
My dyk nom
editHello, would you happen to know why my dyk nom (article created on 17th) has been moved to expired noms? I did submit it within five days of creation, didnt I? Can you please throw some light.. or move it to current noms. Thanks. Sarvagnya 03:19, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- First, entries are never moved to next update within 24 hours of their nomination, because they have to be checked for eligibility and a few other things. Second, someone has found fault with the referencing in the article.--Carabinieri 10:01, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- There's nothing wrong with the sourcing on that article. I had even responded on the dyk page. I never got an answer and now I see that its disappeared from the page. Can you explain. Please. Sarvagnya 01:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Hi there, I am still wondering what happened. You said that somebody found a fault with the referencing. First thing, I dont think anybody found fault with it until it was moved into "expired noms" and also their concerns were misplaced. Even if they were genuine, I never got a response to my reply to their concern. I want a clarification or please move it into current noms. Thanks. Sarvagnya 17:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- When entries are five days old, they are always moved to the "expired noms". Once there, they may still be used, but they aren't always. If you nominate your articles that late, the chances of them being used on the main page is pretty small. Now, it's definately too late.--Carabinieri 13:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Hi there, I am still wondering what happened. You said that somebody found a fault with the referencing. First thing, I dont think anybody found fault with it until it was moved into "expired noms" and also their concerns were misplaced. Even if they were genuine, I never got a response to my reply to their concern. I want a clarification or please move it into current noms. Thanks. Sarvagnya 17:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- There's nothing wrong with the sourcing on that article. I had even responded on the dyk page. I never got an answer and now I see that its disappeared from the page. Can you explain. Please. Sarvagnya 01:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Please dont tell me that I'm late once again. I got it in with like 4-5 hours to spare :) Sarvagnya 05:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, you are. 4-5 to spare isn't enough since entries have remain on the suggestions' page for at least 24 hours to be checked for eligibility. That's just how DYK works. We have to be able to make sure the articles and hooks we put on the main page satisfy certain standards and that takes time.--Carabinieri 11:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Peter Adolf Thiessen
edit-- Nice catch :) GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 09:56, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Did you know
editDid you know
editThe Raven FAC
editHi there! You had left a quick comment on the FAC page for "The Raven." I've made the suggested change (an obvious one, really) and wondered if you wanted to take another look. I've been getting lots of comments, but very few votes! See Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Raven. --Midnightdreary 04:47, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well, what I meant was that the London Critic was not an American magazine (at least not as far as I can tell) so I removed it from the list of American magazines which republished the poem. I figure if it's questionable, there's no need to leave it in there. I understand FAC reviews aren't about collecting votes, but I'd still like to see a few "supports" before it closes! --Midnightdreary 01:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
- My mistake. I could have sworn I removed it over a week ago. I must have just previewed or it was restored or something. Thanks for letting me know! --Midnightdreary 01:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks:DYK
editThinks for posting the DYK template to me for Alpin. Wow!! You have a lot of them already. Cheers --Tarif from Bangladesh 15:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Mistake?
edit[1][2]?-Icewedge 23:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I got some things confused, thanks for the heads up.--Carabinieri 15:35, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Did you know
editAnother DYK nom
edit--Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
DYK
editCheers, Daniel 07:02, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Relevance?
editI am afraid you misunderstood the situation (based on your comment here). Tymek explained the references on the talk page; that Irpen chose to get offended by perhaps ill-chosen adjective and turn the discussion into a civility one doesn't change the fact that the sources seem not to contradict WP:RS. You'll note that the article is stable (no content issues were raised but one which I hope I have addressed with my recent edit there). This is an interesting and well-referenced discussion, and an unfortunate discussion on talk should not be an argument against DYKing it. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 16:58, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- You are right that Tymek could (and should) have behaved better in answering Irpen's query. But it's not the first DYK's of Tymek's that Irpen took a disliking too (due to each side POV in EE affairs, as you noted), and a good way to derail DYK is to create a discussion on DYK page to discourage DYK admins from selecting that article. As you have noted, the questions have been answered; the sources are generally reliable, there are no questions of neutrality or notability or such - yet the chance of the article being DYKed has been lowered. I think such behavior is unfair, particularly when experienced users use their knowledge of wikirules and places like DYK to target work of new users, and thus Tymek's irritation with having his articles targeted this way is understandable - but yes, it does not make his attitude excusable. In the future, I'd recommend that you should not hesitate to warn Tymek that he should be more civil and answer questions directly and in detail - but also warn other users that IDONTLIKEIT attitude should not be displayed on DYKs. That's, of course, is my take on it - but as a contributor of 140+ DYKs I have gained some insight into how the system works, and what I see here is unfortunately not 'good intentions all around'.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 22:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
There are so many pages were Piotrus chooses to continue his smearing of myself, that I am merely lucky to notice this as Carabiniery and myself interacted in the past and his page is on my watchlist. So, now I am accused in an attempt to deliberately derail a DYK through wikilawyering becaise IDONTLIKE something. That's just a bunch of nonsense while not the first bunch I am getting from Piotrus. I repeatedly said that I liked the article. All I wanted is some confirmation on the source's credentials because when the article was announced at DYK suggestion page, the "sources" section was merely a list of urls.[3] I made some noncontroversial edits while waiting for this and all was well except Tymek's offensive tone, something I am used to receiving from Piotrus' friends who gives Barnstars[4] and unblocks[5] editors who offend his opponents.
The sources' issue was finally settled but as if this was not enough, Piotrus' protege Molobo popped up with this edit strangely summed up as "minor issues". Piotrus revert wars[6] to keep it. Tymek picks up the revert warring torch from Piotrus[7] and soon after Digwuren, who faithfully follows me everywhere shows up.[8] And with this Piotrus calls the article "stable", slams some weird accusations, and compares me with his "friends". What a shame! --Irpen 00:10, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- And of course the fact that it is now - what - four editors against one - doesn't mean that Irpen is perhaps a tad wrong here? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 03:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- The difference, Piotrus, is that unlike some I do not use Gadu Gadu, IRC or any other tool to get users I know who would support me to an article. And if you are using pure numbers and count users like Digwuren and Molobo, well, it shows just how strong your argument is. --Irpen 03:30, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Of course, when several users disagree with you, they must be part of some cabal. There is no way you can be wrong, is there?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 03:37, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- There is. And I did not talk Cabal. I merely pointed out that I am the only non-Polish editor who edited the article so far. That of course not counting Digwuren, who follows me around anyway. --Irpen 03:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Of course, when several users disagree with you, they must be part of some cabal. There is no way you can be wrong, is there?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 03:37, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- The difference, Piotrus, is that unlike some I do not use Gadu Gadu, IRC or any other tool to get users I know who would support me to an article. And if you are using pure numbers and count users like Digwuren and Molobo, well, it shows just how strong your argument is. --Irpen 03:30, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
DYK: human chemistry
edit--Carabinieri 14:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Cara, thanks for the help!:
The Original Barnstar | ||
Here's a nice DKY barnstar for you, as I see that your talkpage is full of these efforts Sadi Carnot 17:02, 29 September 2007 (UTC) |
- Thanks again for the DKY on human molecule. --Sadi Carnot 00:48, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 16:53, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Your DYK nomination for Avalanche control was successful
editThanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 16:54, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
DYK Adam Lazarowicz
editJust a few words about the unfortunate Adam Lazarowicz article. I was not going to nominate it to DYK, my intention was to create a little article about an unknown hero from my hometown of Debica. Irpen asked me to "to determine the credentials of the web pages". I did it, I called him a Soviet, he disliked it, so I apologized. He clearly was not satisfied with one source, stating in an ironic tone "I thought the last W.[arsaw] U.[prising] took place a while ago and there was no internet back then". This was a very stupid comment (yes, I mean it, Napoleon lived years ago, and yet you can find web pages about him and this is obvious), and unfortunately you failed to notice it. I really had (and still do not have) any idea what he really wanted. Based on what I see from my previous encounters with him, the tactics used by him is simple - to come up with some fabricated charges, and as a result - to discourage some editors from adding articles to Wikipedia. If my tone was offensive - I apologize, but instead of discouraging, Irpen should come up with help, since he was so interested in a person he had never heard of before. Greetings Tymek 04:37, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- All it takes is to read the talk page and my edits to the article to see it all. --Irpen 05:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
DYK refresh clock
editMay I ask why you updated the DYK refresh clock?--Carabinieri 00:47, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I updated the clock as I thought it was due for refresh you can check it there http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know/Next_update/Time&oldid=161346330--Ghaly 20:15, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- But what would be the point of this clock if its simply updated as soon as the six hours are over? The clock tells the people who work on DYK how long it has been since the main page was last refreshed, so they'll know whether it's necessary to refresh it again.--Carabinieri 22:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
DYK checking
editI usually check DYK suggestions with some regularity but Battle of Kuryłówka slipped past my attention. I am afraid you added it to DYK without even reading. Please take a look at it ASAP. Now some editor tagged it and explained at talk but even without the tag if you just read it once, you would see that putting this on the main page is not a good idea for boosting the Wikipedia's reputation. You are free to disagree of course, but please read it first. TIA, --Irpen 03:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for the DYK, I appreciate it. It is interesting that descriptions of battles with Nazi Germany are never regarded as disputed, but battles of anti-Communist resistance with Soviets are quite often marked as POV by some users (in this case - an anonymous one, with only two contributions, both about this battle). Dear Irpen - instead of criticizing and inciting arguments, help to expand this article. Check for Soviet/Russian sources etc., this battle really happened and I would really like to see NKVD sources about it. Thank you Carabinieri once again and as for Wiki reputation - well, answer yourself if hiding/falsifying some events would do any good Tymek 03:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- I am not saying the event did not take place. It is probably as real as Adam Lazarowicz whose existence and valor I never doubted. I helped with editing the latter but missed this one.
- All I am saying that the article in its current form and shape is unencylopedic, that's all. No one talks falsifying. I am talking about presenting events in a proper and encyclopedic language, with facts clearly separated from judgments, latter being restricted and attributed, peacock terms avoided, etc. I would be also interested to know what KGB archives say about that. You and I are in the same position to find this out. It requires traveling to Moscow and applying for a one day (or longer) pass to conduct research. Many researchers, including the foreign ones, used that valuable source for their books. I don't know how much and what is classified or restricted but I saw quite thorough research on Stalinist crimes published by the scholars who conducted the research in the said archive. I hope that Polish scholars whose work you read tried to get this info. Are you sure they were rebuffed? Anyway, the point is that the article cannot be at the main page in this pity shape. --Irpen 04:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oh please, you live in the former SU, you speak Russian, I know only basics. Anyway - help, improve, add info. I will not litter somebody else's talk page, move to talk of the article Tymek 04:20, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
I just want to make sure that editors who select DYK mainpage entries skim through the articles they insert, at least briefly. If this is what Carabinieri did and he merely disagrees with my judgment on the article as of the time it got featured I would accept that despite being surprised.
The article said (and still does now):
- May 1945 was a happy time for most of Europe. Citizens of Belgium, Norway and several other countries celebrated end of the Second World War and freedom from German occupation. However, their joy was not shared by many people in the East. The Red Army defeated the Third Reich, but it did not bring freedom and independence. It is ironical that while the Western Allies celebrated German capitulation on May 7, 1945, a major battle between the Polish anti-communist resistance organization, National Military Alliance (NZW) and NKVD units took place in the village of Kurylowka...
If I am alone that this is not an encyclopedic form to present material, especially for the main page, I would accept that simply people differ. Happens all the time. --Irpen 04:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- I have to admit I did not read the article. I only checked it for length, referencing, etc. I assumed the article would be ok because it was added to "next update" by another user and because in my experience Eastern Europe-related articles are among the most scrutinized, especially by you, so I was actually pretty surprised with this nomination not being challenged. I would not have added the article to DYK, had I read it. The language was - and actually still is - not neutral. I'll try to scrutinze articles on controversial topics more thoroughly in the future.--Carabinieri 14:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Anabolic Steroid FA nomination
editI've fixed all of your criticisms of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Anabolic steroid/archive3. If you have any other criticisms please post them so that I can fix the article accordingly, or you can alternatively support the nomination. Thanks. Wikidudeman (talk) 14:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XIX (September 2007)
editThe September 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
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Did you know
editCillian Murphy FAC
editHello Carabinieri, I noticed that you made some comments on Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Cillian_Murphy and Melty Girl has later addressed them but your position still seems to be Comment. Based on the changes, is the article now in a state that you would take the position of Support? If not, are there any further issues that you would like addressed, or further suggestions you would like to make? Thanks, and regards, --Kudret abiTalk 19:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- There aren't any particular reasons for me to oppose this FAC, but I don't usually support FAC's unless I'm pretty sure there aren't any problems with it. I think supporting an FAC just because I don't see anything wrong with it right away would undermine other people's ability to raise issues. Unfortunately, even FAC's are to a certain degree seen as votes.--Carabinieri 23:03, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
DYK
editApologies for disturbing, but, if you are around, could you update the Main Page template? It is several hours overdue. -- !! ?? 12:10, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- I see User:Espresso Addict has done it. -- !! ?? 13:56, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
DYK
editThanks! --Espresso Addict 13:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
DYK
editCan you take a look this please. Thanks Taprobanus 23:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
- Looks good to me.--Carabinieri 23:15, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Your DYK nomination for Canals of Amsterdam was successful
editThanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 06:06, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Did you know
editbad DYKs
editI was looking at the oldest DYK candidates. The "next update" list is empty now. However, the older DYK candidates are not very good. Later, there are a bunch of good ones. Do we ever skip quite a few nominations? Skipping a few is reasonable, but I have mixed feelings about skipping a lot of them. Anyway, many thanks for your DYK work. It's not a thankless job because I'm thanking you! Archtransit 18:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- You're welcome ;) Working on DYK can be tiring, but it also has its fun sides, otherwise I wouldn't do it. If you have specific concerns with any nominated hooks you should articulate them on the suggestions' page. Then, the hooks won't be used, unless your concerns are addressed.--Carabinieri 22:03, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Thx
editI think your recent proposal takes both Tony the Tiger and myself into the 50DYK hall of fame. I had been trying to work out who would be first. I think you have created a draw. well done Victuallers 22:49, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- Surely, I meant to do that... :)--Carabinieri 22:50, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Delayed Thanks and Question
editDear Carabinieri,
First of all, thank you for reviewing my California Condor article and helping to promote it to FA status a few months ago. I know my thanks are a bit delayed, but better late than never! Second, I’ve currently got another New World Vulture article, King Vulture, up for FA status and was wondering if you would be interested in reviewing it. I know that you are busy, but so far only three people have done so. Any comments and criticism on this article would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rufous-crowned Sparrow 00:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, somehow I missed your comment until just now, but now it's too late. Congratulations on the FA anyway...--Carabinieri 01:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
DYK: Gatot Soebroto
editAchebe FAC
editThank you for your comments at the Chinua Achebe FAC. I've fixed most of the items you mentioned, and commented on others. Thanks again for your attention to detail. – Scartol · Talk 00:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hope I'm not being a pest, but if you have a second, could you take a look? Thanks. – Scartol · Talk 23:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- I fixed the items you commented on. Please let me know if you have other questions or concerns. – Scartol · Talk 10:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hate to be a bother, but if you have a minute, could you drop by the Achebe FAC and have a look at my replies to your comments? Thanks! – Scartol · Talk 14:10, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Did you know
editPromoted articles
editI finally managed to figure out (sort of) how articles are promoted to DYK, and it appears you are the one responsible yesterday for promoting the set of articles I did on Bayfield class attack transports. So this is just a word of thanks, it's nice to have one's hard work appreciated, I never in my wildest dreams expected to have these articles on a rather obscure topic featured on the mainpage! Gatoclass 14:47, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Article name misspelling
editTo Carabineri: Can you tell me how to correct a misspelling in the headline of an article? See: Clarence C. Aycock, and the headline is misspelled.
Thanks, Billy Hathorn 16:12, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Carabinieri. I noticed Billy's question here and I took the liberty of fixing it myself by copying the contents of the page to a redirect page which had the correct name and listing the page with the wrong name for speedy deletion with the reason given. I figure an admin will know how to handle it from there. Regards, Gatoclass 19:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Fermin Rocker
editFirst International Syndicalist Congress
editDYK needs updating on Nov. 2
editIt's 17:15 Wiki-time, but DYK has'nt been updated since 06:00 Wiki time. Could you, maybe, update it? Thank you! - Tim1965 17:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)