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As reviewing administrator, I think it clearly indicates importance, but it needs refs, & a check we arent covering it already. I can't imagine the information isn't here under another name. DGG ( talk ) 01:42, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, DGG

I have added some references to the Popular Socialists (Russia) article. I've checked, but haven't found another article on English WP that really covers them. The 'Socialist-Revolutionary Party' article does not mention them at all, nor does the 'Trudovik' article -- the two that most likely candidates. In any case the Popular Socialists (NSP) should get a separate entry from those two, since they were ideologically and tactically distinct:

                                                                    PSR vs. NSP

(1) The PSR wanted land socialisaion without compensation for landowners, the NSP wanted nationalisation (state ownership) of land with compensation.

(2) The NSP preferred legal to illegal action, reform from above to revolution from below, contrary to the PSR.

(3) The NSP relied primarily on the intelligentsia, the PSR on the holy trinity of 'workers, peasants and intellectuals'.

(4) The NSP deplored Western-style industrial capitalism as an avoidable calamity; the PSR accepted it as a fact but (contrary to the early SD position) insisted that capitalism was already ripe for destruction.

(5) The NSP rejected Marxism in toto; the PSR, while not "orthodox", was heavily influenced by Marxism. (Peshekhonov complained in 1906 of the SRs "dancing around the Marxist stove", while Chernov called Marx "our great common teacher", and the SRs prided themselves on the fact that August Bebel, doyen of the German SPD (then "orthodox" Marxist), had said of the SRs: "When one hears these people talk, one could really think they are good Marxists. There woul certainly be room for them in the SPD." The PSR wanted eventual unificationn with the RSDRP (an unrequited sentiment); the NSP was closer to the liberals. Many NSs had in fact been instrumental in foundng the liberal party (KDP). One could say that the PSR's ideology was close to N.F. Danielson's narodnik Marxism, while the NSP was based on N.K. Mikhailovsky's narodnik anti-Marxism (simplifying somewhat).

(6) The PSR (until the Azev affair) endorsed political terror as a tactic; the NSP completely rejected it.

(7) The PSR was instrumental in creating the soviets in 1905 and also dominated them in 1917; the NSP played no role in the soviets in the first Russian revolution (though Peshekhonov played a prominent role in the soviets in 1917). They were more strongly represented in the zemstvos and in various upper class soyuzi.

(8) The PSR boycotted elections to the tsarist Duma (except in 1907); the NSP did not.

                                                                  NSP vs. Trudoviki

(1) The NSP had a distinctive ideology, derived largely from Mikhailovsky. The Trudoviki were ideologically raher loose. They comprised dissident SRs who defied the PSR's boycott of the Duma, worker and peasant deputies of no firm ideology and assorted non-Marxist leftists. Those Trudoviki who did have a more coherent ideology were usually SRs, and we've seen that the PSR's ideology differed substantially from that of the NSP.

(2) The Trudovik party had virtually no existence outside the Duma; they had emerged as a group of leftist non-Marxist deputies; all of its significant personalities were members of the Duma. Most of the leaders of the NSP were not, though those who were collaborated with the Trudoviki.

(3) The Trudoviki entertained a variety of proposals on land reform, including the SRs' position of socialisation without compensation; as we've seen, the NSP had a firm position on land reform which rejected that idea.

(4) The overarching personality of the Trudoviki came to be A.F. Kerensky, a former SR who played no role at all in the NSP; of the leading NS personalities, only Miakotin seems to have been a Duma deputy (although Peshekhonov played a leading role in the soviets in 1917).

(5) Although the NSP and the Trudoviki merged in 1917, forming the 'Popular Socialist Labour Party', they were distinct groups for most of their existence (c. 1906-1918).

So, in short, even if the NSP had been included in either the PSR or the Trudovik article, it is not clear that they should have been. But in fact they were not. Hence my entry. Sorry for the long-winded justification!

Thanks again for your help. I will get the hang of WP some day. Chastra (talk) 11:15, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Sergei Prokopovich

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Welcome to Wikipedia! I just found your piece on Valentinov-Volskii in the New Articles queue and made a few tweaks to it for style. Very nice work, although it was short some inline footnotes backing up various facts. One thing you'll learn as you spend time here and adjust to Wikipedia style is that the more footnotes that one puts in, the less that people will mess with your work in a bad way.

Another suggestion, if I may be so bold, is that you might consider keeping paragraph length short. It's pretty hard to read long paragraphs on screens (as opposed to reading them on the printed page), so paragraph style at WP tends to be very short, as in journalism.

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One more thing: when you do an edit on an article in the regular encyclopedia space (as opposed to a note on a talk page or something like that) be SURE to write a brief description of the changes that you are making in the Edit Summary. Not doing this is regarded as a party foul by many of the more persnickety sorts that you will bump into from time to time. It just takes a few seconds and helps future editors who are going back trying to improve work or to weed out vandalism or bad edits... I use a generic phrase like "Adds content" or "Shuffles paragraphs" or "Tweaks typography." Even something that brief and general is helpful and it's a really good habit to get into. I'll try to spin through a couple of your earlier creations editing for style a little bit — that's helpful in chasing away the deletion monsters! best, Carrite (talk) 06:10, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

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Charles Pellarin WP

Hi Chastra,

As it seems you are the only person interested about Charles Pellarin !

Do you know if he had stay some time on the french West-Indian island Saint Martin (approx. 1856)?

Best regards, --Millot (talk) 20:01, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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