Chemistry Online1

May 2020

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at Brown sugar, you may be blocked from editing. ... and at Talk:Black seed and Nigella sativa, among others. Ayurveda is quackery and is not a reliable source for medical content on Wikipedia. Use WP:MEDRS reviews. Zefr (talk) 13:32, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hello, I am putting an issue regarding editing the page mastic gum, brown sugar, and black seed. Today little bit I edited but Mr. Zefr deleted my information. I have a strong back ground of organic chemistry, bio chemistry and phyto-chemistry. I saw many pages edited by Mr. Zefr, have bio information but lack of chemical composition. Wikipedia is a public property, it is not a property of Mr. Zefr, which have only biological knowledge.Mostly compounds on their pages are missing chemical constituents especially organics. Regards, Chemistry Online1 (talk) 17:56, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

You must ask yourself why have you come to an English encyclopedia when speaking and writing English are not familiar to you. Editors are not here to correct grammar and errors of understanding by non-English editors. This is a list of other languages where you might find editing more enjoyable. Zefr (talk) 19:10, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

We are not discussing a English literature, here we both are belong to natural science.The topics brown sugar, mastic gum and black seed are not English stories and English movies. Lets come to topics, I think you have low knowledge or zero knowledge of chemistry. These three pages have lot of misinformation. The image on brown sugar is something else. You can search in google and can download right image of brown sugar. Your pages show only botanical, agricultural and gardening information. These pages needs to update and this can be done only by a chemist having right and correct knowledge not as like you. You are doing as like a cobbler doing a mechanic work. Please don't mind, but this is reality. This matter we can decide in a right way, let me allow to write on these three topic offline then your material and my articles will be sent to top ten universities to judge,then Wikipedia.org will do better.

Regards.

We are not discussing a English literature, here we both are belong to natural science.The topics brown sugar, mastic gum and black seed are not English stories and English movies. Lets come to topics, I think you have low knowledge or zero knowledge of chemistry. These three pages have lot of misinformation. The image on brown sugar is something else. You can search in google and can download right image of brown sugar. Your pages show only botanical, agricultural and gardening information. These pages needs to update and this can be done only by a chemist having right and correct knowledge not as like you. You are doing as like a cobbler doing a mechanic work. Please don't mind, but this is reality. This matter we can decide in a right way, let me allow to write on these three topic offline then your material and my articles will be sent to top ten universities to judge,then Wikipedia.org will do better.

Regards. Chemistry Online1 (talk) 21:01, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Misinformation on pages brown sugar, black seeds, mastic gum

Brown sugar: Tittle image is not brown sugar and chemical constituents especially organic compounds found in brown sugar are missing Mastic gum :Other languages name are missing, I edited today but Mr. Zefr deleted. Organic compounds found in mastic gum are not mentioned, which are more important for research. Black seeds:Black seeds is the English name of nigella sativa. If any one is doing search on Wikipedia about nigella sativa, then a music band group is shown by Wikipedia search engine. Today I wrote on black seed but Mr.Zefr deleted the information. I think Mr. Zefr has no knowledge about chemistry. Other thing which I saw on the page of Nigella sativa, in Chemistry of Nigella sativa which is partly wrong. Important organic constituents are missing. Chemistry Online1 (talk) 21:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

First, Black seed is a "disambiguation page", a list of all the meanings of this term (including Nigella sativa). We do not know what meaning readers have in mind, so that lets them see all the options. Searching for the term "black seed" seems to bring up that page first, and then all the others, not just the band. This edit, in which you link the N. sativa first term back to the DAB page is against our Manual of Style and I do not see how it helps our readers.

Second, Nigella sativa already lists the constituents in the "Chemistry" section with several journal citations. This edit of yours restates many of those same ones:

Existing: linoleic acid, oleic acid, palmitic acid, trans-anethole,thymoquinone, dihydrothymoquinone, p-cymene, carvacrol, α-thujene, thymol, α-pinene, β-pinene

You added: Nigellicine , Nigellidine , Nigellimine, Carvacrol, α- Hederin, Thymol, Thymoquinone, Dithymoquinone, thymohydroquinone

Of the refs you added in this edit, only the third seems close to meeting the reliable sources guideline. If that ref supports the chemicals that are not already listed, I would support adding just those with just that ref. It's not MEDRS content, so it doesn't need that higher standard. DMacks (talk) 06:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

@Zefr: thoughts? DMacks (talk) 06:07, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

DMacks - I was aware of the 2016 Inflammopharmacology article by Khan et al., but didn't use it previously because a) the additional phytochemicals presented (some of those listed immediately below) are not found in independent PubMed searches for review articles, although some are mentioned in the Drugs.com review under Chemistry (do we list every constituent, even when there is no review on significance?); b) much of the Khan article makes a leap to clinical conclusions from lab research - a telltale sign of overinterpretation and misleading content about supposed, unproven biological properties, failing WP:MEDRS, and persuading against its use in the encyclopedia; and c) overall, it's not clear that the Khan source and mention of other phytochemicals would add significant information to the N. sativa article per WP:NOTJOURNAL #6-8. Zefr (talk) 15:55, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Phytoconstituents of back seed: Nigellicine , Nigellidine , Nigellimine, Carvacrol, α- Hederin, Thymol, Thymoquinone, Dithymoquinone, thymohydroquinone More than thousand journals and research papers of high impact factor are mentioning above mentioned compounds in black seed. I am requesting to senior editors please provide a proper space for beginners.Beginners are new here on Wikipedia but having a huge knowledge. I am noticing here on Wikipedia that mostly seniors are deleting the editting of beginners with no proper reasons as done by Zefr and material scientist. If Wikipedia may check their qualifications, I am sure that they don't have any link with chemistry in their educational background. Chemistry Online1 (talk) 07:30, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

The persons deleted my editing on page.

The persons deleted my editing, having no proper knowledge about chemistry, they belong to either botany or physics. Chemistry Online1 (talk) 21:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. DMacks (talk) 06:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

DMacks. Thanks for your guidance. Please we should add these organic compounds (Nigellicine , Nigellidine , Nigellimine, Carvacrol , α- Hederin , Thymol , Thymoquinone , Dithymoquinone ,thymohydroquinone )into page of Nigella sativa or black seed.If you have proper education in chemistry especially in "organic chemistry "then you will understand. I respect the senior editors but page of Nigella sativa is missing organic compounds.Thousands research papers of journals of high impact factor carrying information about Nigella sativa. But if you see page of Nigella sativa, it seems an agricultural or forestry page. If you don't mind may I ask your specialization in chemistry? Chemistry Online1 (talk) 10:33, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Nigella sativa. TheImaCow (talk) 11:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

ThelmaCow Why explain briefly, I added some organic compounds which were missing there using the reference which was given already . Regards Chemistry Online1 (talk) 11:36, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia org. Respected team of Wikipedia, During editing I am facing lots of problems. Senior editors like Zefr, ThelmaCow does not allow to edit any correct or right information. From past few days, three senior editors deleted .Even today I edited with that reference which was already mentioned in that page. Please take necessary and appropriate action. Regards. Chemistry Online1 (talk) 11:42, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

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