User talk:Chrisjnelson/Archive 15

Jason Peters

Dear Mr. Nelson

I was wondering whether you could change your guys name to his middle name as my client does not have this luxury.

Thanks for your help

Martin Skelton —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasa88 (talk • contribs) 00:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Boogers

I see. O_o Thanks for the heads up there! -WarthogDemon 01:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 01:12, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Bobby Cox

User:Cambios is clearly edit warring. Has he been reported yet? If we can't get him on 3RR then we might be able to get him on Sock puppetry with User:Leshrak which just happened to support him on the Bobby Cox thing. Kingjeff (talk) 03:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not really sure. The whole situation is ridiculous. I'm not going to revert him again because I don't want any trouble, plus I'm pretty confident anyone with authority is going to side against him (i.e. the side of reason).►Chris Nelson^Holla! 03:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

You may have to get involved again. I don't know if you care or not, but I'm close to leaving Wikipedia altogether. For what is supposedly a very important policy, WP:BLP violations are almost completely ignored. Today I got threatened with a block for reverting Leshrak's edits, believe it or not, and my protection request for the article was ignored while every other articles' protection requests were dealt with (even ones that were placed after mine). I've moved the request back to the top, but I don't expect to have any luck. Dlong (talk) 15:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Please don't leave, this edit cannot stand. The user is completely out of line.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 16:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks for the Barnstar!--Yankees10 22:32, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Bill Belichick / Pats1

Could use your help in monitoring Bill Belichick, User Pats1 seems intent on erasing any evidence of the ongoing Spygate investigation. Please lend a hand whenever you see him doing wholesale reverts on my changes. Thanks - Helixweb (talk) 05:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm always cautious when he makes edits related to the Patriots, but I don't disagree with him here and I don't feel his behavior is wrong in this case.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 12:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

NFLPA

Register at NFLPA.org (no strings attached, I did a few weeks ago), and then use this link. Pats1 ^T/C 19:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't look functional yet, but I did just get the link a second ago. Pats1 ^T/C 20:04, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I've been informed turning off pop-up blockers makes it work. Pats1 ^T/C 20:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello thanks/McNair

Thanks for informing me, but on Brett Favre's page it says former so I put former on McNair's page. Thanks.

71.120.80.154 (talk)

Yeah but basically that's just because too many people don't understand it. It's not correct there and it's not correct on McNair's page.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 17:27, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

No Your pretty much wrong, my McNair edits and the Favre page is correct, you shouldn't use favre's page as an example because it looks exactly the way I edited McNair's page to look. 67.180.86.119 (talk) 20:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Helping with refs?

Why is it that when I enter refs in between the <.ref> signs (no dots), if I save the page and then click on the ref, it says "cite#0" and doesn't move and the link isn't on the bottom of the page?

71.120.80.154 (talk)

Merit Meyer (American football)

This article was created by a vandal. It needs to be deleted. Merit Meyer (American football). --Street20 (talk) 03:56, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Well usually people watch newly-created articles and delete them. I don't know where they go to see it but I think there's a way. Anyway, there's not much I can do. I'd tell Pats1.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 03:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

multi-link stats template

thanks for telling me, ill be sure to use, by the way what do you think about the Dolphins taking Jake Long first overall?--Yankees10 23:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

He wasn't my first choice, but I'm fine with it.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 03:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Category talk:African American football players

I agree with your comment so much that I left it in the deletion summary. [1] ;) --B (talk) 02:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and helped out with the removal. Enigma ^message Review 02:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Well that was a quick turn of events.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 02:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

B ex machina! --B (talk) 02:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Photo Attribution discussion

Doesn't look like you're replied. So you might want to weigh in of this one: Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Photograph attribution in image captions -Fnlayson (talk) 04:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

You might want to admit when you're wrong.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 04:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 24 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Matt Lytle, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-- Milk’s Favorite Cookie ^(Talk) 20:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Originally

Do you think I should put the word originally in the drafted players intros, because like 5 people have removed them--Yankees10 20:51, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Good idea, I am still going to add the cats and templates though--Yankees10 20:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah sounds good. The way I figure it, if I standardize infoboxes and intros now, it'll all be edited throughout the day and I'll still have to watch them and fix them.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 20:53, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it becomes a huge pain when people just mess them all up--Yankees10 20:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I'd just give up until it all dies down.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 20:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I do not think it makes any sense to put that word for a player still with the team that drafted him in the first place. Yankeesfan10 told me to contact you about this. The player in question was drafted today and has not been traded. CopaceticThought (talk) 23:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

"Originally" does not imply he's no longer with the team. It just means that's where his career has started. We're just trying to keep intros consistent.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 23:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I looked at the pages of a few players still with their original teams and none of them said "originally": Dwayne Bowe, Larry Johnson (American football), Vince Young... CopaceticThought (talk) 23:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

It's a long process standardizing infoboxes and intros.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 23:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. I think the leads should have the word originally to keep traded and nono-traded player pages uniform. RC-0722 ^247.5/1 23:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Well Others like Dallas Clark, Terrell Suggs, Jermaine Phillips, Chad Johnson, Zach Thomas, and basically every other player signed during this offseason do--Yankees10 23:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

CopaceticThought, you're just putting emphasis on the wrong part of the sentence. Take like... Carson Palmer for example. He IS a player for the Bengals. He was ORIGINALLY drafted by them first overall in 2003. That makes perfect sense to say. It doesn't imply he's not playing for them now.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 23:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

A mediation case has been started on this topic. Please see Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-05-05 Tyrell Johnson (American football) for more discussion on this subject. 67.137.0.28 (talk) 00:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Tyrell Johnson (American football)

Can you help me out with something, this guy keeps adding commentary and opinions on the Tyrell Johnson (American football) page and is trying to get me blocked for the 3RR rule, which I didn't violate. Can you help me get rid of the stuff he adds if he adds it again, I dont want to be blocked.--Yankees10 02:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah no problem. Some of it's decent info (leading safeties in bench reps, the trade up, etc.) but none of it is written in a real neutral tone. I'll keep an eye on it.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 02:40, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I kind of didnt pay attention to all of it, some of it probably should have stayed, thanks--Yankees10 02:59, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

If you didn't pay attention to all of it, and you're participating to edit warring reverting pages four and five times without putting anything on the discussion page, maybe you do deserve a ban for a day or two don't you think?

And you still haven't said why you repeatedly reverted additions to the article or discussed it on the discussion page. If it's not in a neutral tone, the policy is to improve it so it is neutral instead of reverting it all out. Let me ask you this Yankees10, do you feel you are helping Wikipedia more than you are hurting it? If so, how do you explain all your edit warring?[2] [3] [4]. This much is not normal. So much of this is going on that you're coming places like here seeking allies. You must realize that this kind of behavior is more damaging than helpful. 67.137.0.28 (talk) 06:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Chad Henne

Question: At the bottom of the page it says he's the incumbent for the wolverines, even though he was drafted. Should that be fixed? RC-0722 ^247.5/1 02:59, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. RC-0722 ^247.5/1 03:02, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I never cared for the word Incumbent in there. It says "Succeeded by", and if the guy is the incumbent the that's NOT him.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 03:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

1st round league template

Feel free to edit.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Further discussion should be at template talk.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

NFL infoboxes

I was just trying to get the edits in as quickly as possible (it really is aggravating to have an entire new infobox in and an updated lead only to have an edit conflict with someone who added a single line saying "so-and-so just got drafted" or putting a pro team in the NCAA infobox). I'll look at your work (frankly, I thought the issue would be that the honors from the NCAA don't need to be in the pro box), but honestly I was just cutting and pasting from the NCAA infoboxes for all of them. Tromboneguy0186 (talk) 03:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that's what I figured. College awards are fine, though in my experience I've only kept major ones (no SI.com third-team All-Sun Belt stuff haha) and if there become too many of them, I simply make a sub-section in his College career section and link to it in the infobox, as I have at Jake Long.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 03:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good, I'll take a look at them (and tomorrow's picks, for which there should be considerably fewer edit conflicts) over the next few days. Tromboneguy0186 (talk) 03:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

And fewers accolades, haha.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 03:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, I don't know if it's your edits, but I've noticed the debutyear, debutteam and college fields missing from some rookies' templates. Be sure to add these so people can fill them in.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 04:09, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Flacco and Ryan

They dont show up the Category:Atlanta Falcons players and Category:Baltimore Ravens players.--Yankees10 04:31, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah for some reason, they are only in the sub-cats and not the primary one. Since that's the case, those sub-cats are kind of useless I guess.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 04:32, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I guess I should put them back, no?--Yankees10 04:36, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Meh, do whatever.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 04:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Policy

Just out of curiosity, could you provide a link to the policy? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 04:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I can't find it. It's somewhere at Wikipedia:Naming conventions. Unless the policy has changed since I was last told a while back, it's definitely true.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 04:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't doubt you, I just couldn't find it so I was hoping you knew where it was. Ill ask around. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 08:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Lorenzo Booker

I'm not complaining or anything because the Eagles got him but why did your team get rid of Lorenzo Booker? Thanks --Phbasketball6 (talk) 13:36, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I imagine he just wasn't their kind of back. He's a very good receiver and has great moves, and he's good for Philly. I guess they just wanted more picks and want another kind of back.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 14:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

LOL, you were horrified when I told you he was traded. Pats1 ^T/C 14:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

True, but that's just because it was unexpected. He was only a third-down back though. He'll be damn good if a team uses him right.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 14:05, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Eagles need him really back as a backup so I'm glad they got him. --Phbasketball6 (talk) 14:21, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I think Philly's a great place for him knowing what they do with Westbrook.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 14:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Trae Williams

A tag has been placed on Trae Williams requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. — Parent5446 ^{(t n c k e l)} 18:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Player category

Who does this guy think he is saying Im blind, can you help me revert him if he does it again--Yankees10 19:09, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

He removed it from Flacco again, can you re-add it--Yankees10 19:37, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Why doesn't someone request temporary page protection? RC-0722 ^247.5/1 19:41, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Kennard Cox

A tag has been placed on Kennard Cox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Pavlen (talk) 22:41, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I saw your comments at User:EdJohnston talk page and wanted to thank you for trying to get me unblocked, thanks.--Yankees10 22:32, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

You may also want to see this:Talk:Glenn Dorsey#Originally--Yankees10 23:30, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:Giants2008DraftPicks

Hi. I might have jumped the gun a bit - assuming that most of them will have notable careers - but I crated this template. I'm telling you this because I basically copy and pasted the 2007 template that you created. Thanks! --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 16:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

You're not assuming anything by making that template, it's perfectly fine.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 18:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

UDFAs

Wow, this has been crazy, as usual. Impossible to keep up with the rate the guys are being signed, the false reports (at least 5 for the Pats), and other editors screwing things up here and there (alpha order, positions, etc.). I've gone through the AFC East and North so far just to check things out back to Friday and see if any vandalism slipped through, while fixing any minor errors/link errors I could find. I also compared notes with KFFL as to UDFAs signed. However, even KFFL has 5 guys signing with the Pats who either have not really signed yet, or are only coming in for tryouts. Our best bet, I think, is to wait for ProFW to make their updates, and then do a tedious comparison to check for any false reports and missed signings. The good thing is that we'll be able to notice the false reports, as we'll never get numbers for them from the official sites. Pats1 ^T/C 01:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it's been pretty crazy.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 01:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

The good news is that May and June (zZZzzZZZzzzZZ) lay ahead of us. Pats1 ^T/C 01:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah because all the rookie pages are being edited by everyone, I figure I'll just update and fix them as they sign.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 02:10, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll keep a running list of the teams that I've reeled back in, including ProFW and team website double-checks: Broncos, Steelers, Rams, Redskins, Saints, Dolphins, Patriots, Colts, Falcons, Chiefs, Bills, Jets, Cardinals, Panthers, Bears, Bengals, Browns, Cowboys, Lions, Ravens, Packers, Texans, Jaguars, Giants, Raiders, Vikings, Eagles, Chargers, Seahawks, Buccaneers, Titans, 49ers. I'll be keeping close watch on those to make sure things stay back in our customary accuracy range, including a team-wide number check (as I've done for all the listed teams). As for the others, they'll remained turned loose until ProFW or team websites get to them. Pats1 ^T/C 23:02, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Chris Long Uni number

[5]

Defensive Chris Long, the No. 2 overall pick by the Rams, will need a new jersey number since Leonard Little has No. 91, Long's college number. Don't expect No. 75, worn by Hall of Fame dad Howie Long. "I think I'm cool with the pressure," Chris Long said. "But there's no need to shovel it on myself." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.0.36.36 (talk) 06:07, 30 April 2008 (UTC)