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Thanks for assisting me dear, I want some explanation, lets take them into points:
- Are you likely to tell me to write something more about the company e.g History, workings performance etc and the representing people Like CEO and/or General Manager etc?
- Another thing is "Verifiability" and for this I'll shortly insert a press release Link which could be verified by Wikipedia.
- I created this article by reading some of existing article available on Wikipedia e.g "BrainMass". You may check this article and can compare with mine one. however I respect you and honor your comments and I'll Surely Modify my content shortly.
Thanks in advance to reply my all points --BillMarz (talk) 09:50, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- I do not recommend that you merely add more content to your article. This would be a waste of time. I do, however, recommend that you refrain from attempting to use Wikipedia to promote your organization. Your article has now been deleted three times, so I really don't recommend a fourth attempt, which would most likely result in salting the article. In order to establish notability, you must show significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources that are independent of SolutionInn, its affiliates, and associates. As you have been told previously by others, press releases are not reliable or independent of the subject. We do not accept them in any capacity. As far as BrainMass, you may want to read WP:INN. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 10:42, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- I really appreciate your recommendation, but here a link "joeant.com/DIR/cat/15534" in which the enlistment of SolutionInn is mentioned in the Directory. well this is just to become known by the ways of independent resource. however I've modified my article. And its my humble request to motivate me. I'm not just mean to promote the company, there are also some other moral factors. Requesting again to review the UserSpace. With Love--BillMarz (talk) 11:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Have you read any of the links that have been offered to you by myself and others? Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 11:49, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry Sir but i couldn't get exactly what you want to say? I asked about the modification in article according to your instruction, And provided link. love, --BillMarz (talk) 04:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Honestly, I'm not sure how I can be any clearer. Have you read any of the links that have been offered to you by myself and others? You either haven't, or you have and fail to comprehend or choose not to abide by the community's policies and guidelines. Which is it? Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 05:00, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ok Sir, I got the point right now, I've re-read your significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources that are independent and found that the article must be verifiable. Ok that's Good to be interacted with you. Independent sources would be given, but It would take time as the company has to work enough to become in notice of any Famous news paper. Well, I'm thankful to you for this kind of assistance so far, I'd like to ask just last thing, other than Verifiability, is my article in good form? according to your point of view, as I added up all the details as you instruct me. Best Regards, --BillMarz (talk) 05:42, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, Ma'am, outside of correct spelling, the article does not meet the Manual of Style, policies, or notability guidelines that would warrant an encyclopedia article. While the current formatting, structure, and grammar does not meet the threshold for acceptability in an encyclopedia, these can easily be addressed in editing. The areas of grave concern center on a lack of notability and failure to indicate how and/or why the subject is important and/or significant outside of mere existence. It is also highly promotional in nature, written by an individual with a clear conflict of interest. Honestly, Bill, if you had taken the time to read the policies and guidelines that were offered to you as far back as a month ago, you could have been able to recognize and answer these questions on your own. I enjoy helping others, but it really becomes frustrating at times to lead the horse to water again and again, while it refuses to take a drink... all the while complaining that they're dying of thirst. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 06:20, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ok Sir, I got the point right now, I've re-read your significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources that are independent and found that the article must be verifiable. Ok that's Good to be interacted with you. Independent sources would be given, but It would take time as the company has to work enough to become in notice of any Famous news paper. Well, I'm thankful to you for this kind of assistance so far, I'd like to ask just last thing, other than Verifiability, is my article in good form? according to your point of view, as I added up all the details as you instruct me. Best Regards, --BillMarz (talk) 05:42, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Honestly, I'm not sure how I can be any clearer. Have you read any of the links that have been offered to you by myself and others? You either haven't, or you have and fail to comprehend or choose not to abide by the community's policies and guidelines. Which is it? Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 05:00, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry Sir but i couldn't get exactly what you want to say? I asked about the modification in article according to your instruction, And provided link. love, --BillMarz (talk) 04:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Have you read any of the links that have been offered to you by myself and others? Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 11:49, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- I really appreciate your recommendation, but here a link "joeant.com/DIR/cat/15534" in which the enlistment of SolutionInn is mentioned in the Directory. well this is just to become known by the ways of independent resource. however I've modified my article. And its my humble request to motivate me. I'm not just mean to promote the company, there are also some other moral factors. Requesting again to review the UserSpace. With Love--BillMarz (talk) 11:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Could you recreate the BrainMass article?
I think it should have been put on AFD instead of being deleted without discusssion. Count Iblis (talk) 15:10, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, sending the article to AFD would have simply resulted in speedy deletion based on the same criteria, in addition to an overall lack of notability established through significant, reliable, and independent sources. A press release and primary sources are not acceptable to establish notability. If you want to try again, I recommend that you work on the article in your sandbox before moving it to the mainspace. Contact Jimfbleak to request userfication. And good luck. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 15:58, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
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Please don't blank articles which you're tagging for CSD G12. It makes it slightly harder to verify the copyvio, and does very little to prevent damage since such articles are deleted quickly. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:20, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for contacting me. Standard procedure with copyright violations include blanking the infringing text. Thus, articles are automatically blanked by the software, when tagging for COPYVIO. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 10:26, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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Hey :). I've declined the speedy on Tom Rhodes Radio because it claims significance (and probably passes the GNG!). Looks like the edits that made it meet this standard were added after you put the tag in, though, so don't sweat it. Ironholds (talk) 07:46, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, no sweat here! LOL Yeah, it looks like they did add more content. The system works, go figure! Hope all is well in your little corner of the wikisphere. ;) Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 07:55, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- It is! Appropriately, just after encountering this tag I then ran into one you'd got just right. I love it when my AGF in other people being awesome justifies itself :D. Ironholds (talk) 07:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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I'm not as up on things as I once was. I had no idea that Artists from Seattle was an empty category. D'oh. I'm on a mission to get people who teach comix, minicomics and other comic and art disciplines at Pacific Northwest area schools (Vancouver, Seattle, Portland Oregon) wikipedia pages. I assure you that Stefan Gruber has been warned by me in person and on facebook that he's not allowed to edit his own page.
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Cindy, could you help me improve the article on Tim Jenkins that you recommended for deletion? I really think he is notable and would be a great addition to Wikipedia. I understand the Division I bias but think this guy is the exception to the rule. Any suggestions you have would be appreciated. Thanks! --Adh80112 (talk) 15:18, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
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I'm impressed you found what was indeed a copyright violation. Sorry about that: this was an article created just today as part of San Francisco WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon 2; I ran out of time and agree with your revert. Will rephrase the material and give it a proper cite. Barte (talk) 01:55, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hey Bart! I noticed your note about coming back later, after I made some edits. (I was actually trying to find her full birthdate.) I look forward to reading the article when you are done. If you need help with anything, feel free to hit me back. Hope the WW Edit-a-Thon was fun! Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 02:02, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks Cindy, I appreciate it--I've made additions, building on your structure; take a look and have at it. How did you find it so fast? (The Edit-a-Thon was great; this was our co-editor's first created article, and she was a natural.) Barte (talk) 03:40, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
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Hi, thanks for reviewing my page on ACR. It's my first attempt at creating a page for an organization, and I see that I have more to learn about wikipedia's standards. I sent you an e-mail a few days ago about the tags on the main page, asking whether or not they had been resolved through the inclusion of enough secondary sources. It looks like one has been, and I'll try to resolve the other one as soon as possible. Regarding the A Cappella Records discography page, I tried to copy the design of the page for Verve Records discography as much as possible, as they are a similar label. Wouldn't Verve's page violate the same directory rule? I'm just trying to understand whether I can include discography at all, or should just leave it off the article. All the best, TheEndlessVoid (talk) 18:19, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
- A few things to keep in mind. Other stuff exists that should not be used as a measuring tool or guideline for creating an appropriate article. The music released on A Cappella Records and that released on Verve show no similarities between labels. Here is a better example of an appropriate discography for a record label: Dischord Records. On another note, sorry I missed your email. When you send an editor email, make sure to let them know. You can add this template {{ygm}} to their talkpage, which helps. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 21:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply - I appreciate the help and will work on an appropriate revision. Good to know about the {{ygm}} tag!TheEndlessVoid (talk) 04:26, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Please feel free to contact me anytime you need help or have a question. I would also recommend drafting articles in a subpage of your userspace, rather than in the mainspace. This minimizes the chances that premature articles are deleted unexpectedly. See Help:Userspace draft. Hope this helps! Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 03:01, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply - I appreciate the help and will work on an appropriate revision. Good to know about the {{ygm}} tag!TheEndlessVoid (talk) 04:26, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Borderland Beat Speedy Delete
Hi Cindy, a week ago my page for Borderland Beat was subject to a speedy delete. This happened while I was at work, so I didn't get a chance to see any comments that might have been in the ajoining Talk page before the Talk page got deleted. I understand that the reasons for the speedy delete were that I failed to make the case that Borderland Beat was notable and also that the page was advertising. Please help with the advertising reason, was it because I included a link to Nabble, or for some other reason. I know this all happened a week ago, so difficult to remember, but my Borderland Beat page is still up in my User:Georgeblake/sandbox. Thanks. Georgeblake (talk) 08:38, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi George! The Borderland Beat article was deleted for a couple of reasons. Rather than notability, the article failed to indicate how the subject is significant and/or important. What sets this Web site apart from others? Has it won awards? Is it mentioned in significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject? Please note that the number of hits a Web site receives is not indicative of notability. Notability is defined as that which is worthy of notice. Some editors mistakenly assume that advertising only relates to presentation in order to sale a product. The Borderland Beat article merely served to promote awareness of the Web site. We cannot accept articles under these terms, but require that articles comply with policies and guidelines that serve to verify that the subject warrants an encyclopedia article. Hope this helps. You can read about establishing notability for Web sites here. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 09:50, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Many thanks for the prompt reply and clear explanation. Georgeblake (talk) 11:26, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
CSD and copyvio
I have just declined Steel service center for speedy deletion. An article cannot be speedied because of a sentence or two of copyvio when the rest of the article is appropriate. The correct action here is to remove the copyvio. This is not the only speedy nomination I have seen from you with this problem, although admittedly the others looked of less encyclopedic value. SpinningSpark 11:28, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Not sure where you're coming from. I am fully aware of the criteria for speedy deletion. The article was flagged for three separate criteria. In addition to the G12, the A7 and G11 was placed due to the promotion of the TSPDL Steel Service Centre in the article and by the editor as a single-purpose account in promoting Tata Group and Tata Steel, along with a failure to indicate importance or significance of the service center. The editor is creating articles to support his organization. Please note that I have a very good track record with CSDs, so your concern is really not a valid one. I have never encountered you before and you have never interacted with me or declined any of my recommendations previously. Is it possible that you have my account confused with another? If you have specific articles which you would like to address, please let me know. On another note, while you may have clipped a bit of copyvio, you failed to clean up your work. Can you please take another look at how you left this article? I think we can do better than this. Thanks. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 11:54, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- You are a little confused here. I cannot see that the article is about an organisation, it is about the topic of steel service centres, hence the reason I discounted A7 and G11. The article has two references, only one of which goes to Tata, the other one is the site of an entirely unrelated company as far as I know. Referencing to commercial sites is usually not the best quality an editor can pick, but is not in itself grounds for speedy deletion and the article is a clearly referenceable topic. This is the only article the editor has created, do you have any grounds for thinking the account is a sock? SpinningSpark 15:17, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Not confused (could be my age), but I honestly cannot remember the other account names. For the most part, the majority of the articles are generally deleted, then a new username account is created and it starts all over again. I have encountered this editor numerous times over the years creating articles under the Tata Steel and Tata Group umbrella to include subsidiaries, company personnel, and family members. It's always the same with the sandbox development and creation of peripheral articles to eliminate red links, then promote various divisions of the organization by adding ELs to the article. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 17:20, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, that does not convince me it is a speedy candidate. I'm sure you know what to do if you want it deleted. I can find no connection between Tata and PDM Steel Service Centers Inc, so remain unconvinced that this is spam from Tata - although I am more than happy to take your word that they have spammed in the past. SpinningSpark 17:57, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Puzzling. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I suppose recognizing the actions of this editor comes with experience. You declined the SD, as is your option, in the same way that I often decline SD. No harm; no foul. That said, I would recommend laying off the statement "this is not the only speedy nomination I have seen from you with this problem" when the reality is just not there. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 18:08, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- I don't want to make any more of a meal of this, but you've asked me twice now, so I'll reply. The other articles I was referring to were two recent speedy nominations (sorry, I can't give diffs, they have both now gone from the category, but one was a peacock piece about some US lawyer). They were both marginal for speedy cases in my opinion, but I did not decline them either as I didn't much like either of them. Not trying to go any further with those cases, just answering your question. SpinningSpark 22:29, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- I recall both articles. Clear copyright violations using the bios of both subjects from the law firm's Web site. And deleted in accordance with the G12 criteria. I would recommend a little less focus on minimizing the work of others and a bit more focus on your own. I notice the Steel service center remains in the crap condition you left it in. Feel like cleaning up your work yet? Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 22:41, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Redirect Castledown Primary School
Why did you redirect to Hastings despite there being absolutely no information about the aforementioned institution or even anything more concrete about primary education then "18 primary schools"? Nor did you even redirect it to the education heading. I don't have an issue with the removal of the article I created since I was not aware of that policy, but I do have an issue with sloppy procedure. Wouldn't a deletion, or at the very most, an attempt to integrate some of that information into the Hastings article have been better? Please don't do a policy dump on me either. Best regards. Jpanzerj (talk) 14:10, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hey there! Nonnotable primary and middle schools are redirected to school districts in North America or to the lowest geographical locale elsewhere. The redirect is an option for readers that may even come across the name of the school and run a search. While minimal, this particular redirect offers a location. The redirect also allows for a placeholder for the primary school, which may become notable in the future. For this reason, we provide a redirect, rather than deleting outright. The content in the article merely supported the existence of the school, so a merge was not feasible. Rather than sloppy procedure, the redirect in this case was established procedure. Please don't hesitate to contact me anytime you have a question about any of my actions or just questions in general. I won't bite. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 17:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
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I have to apologize to you because I did not realize that Erica Kennedy had been totally rewritten--and, in my personal opinion, massacred. In its current form it does look like a news report. If it is reverted to my original form then I'd be in favour of keeping it, but if it is to remain in its current form then please do delete it. Thanks and again my apologies. Guyovski (talk) 03:25, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Not On Our Watch Project
Hi Cindy, I couldn't find Click here to contest this speedy deletion, so am writing you here. The "Not On Our Watch" page to which you refer already existing is about a book. The Not On Our Watch Project to which I referred is totally different, not a book. May it please be reinstated? Thank you, Leila Leilapaz (talk) 14:09, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Leila! I would recommend drafting the article in a subpage of your userspace to minimize any confusion. For example, here: User:Leilapaz/Not On Our Watch Project ← (click on this red link). Once you have the article ready, indicating importance of the organization, supported by significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, we can move the article to the mainspace. Let me know when you have done this. At that time, I can help you move the page to Not On Our Watch Project. If you have any questions or need any help developing the article, please feel free to contact me. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 04:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Cindy! If you would like to check out the sandbox article... Thank you! Leilapaz (talk) 17:15, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, for some reason, Wiki is not accepting my edit to bracket David Pressman.
- Hi Cindy! If you would like to check out the sandbox article... Thank you! Leilapaz (talk) 17:15, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- Type humanitarian charity
- Focus human rights, civilian protection, and peace
- Mission human rights awareness
- Method social services, funding, and awareness
- ---------------------------------------------------
- Is there another Type, other than humanitarian charity - can't we say humanitarian aid organization;
- Their mission is more than awareness; there method is not social services to my way of thinking.
- Can we discuss? I see their focus and mission as one and the same. In humanitarian aid "speak", I do not see the use of "social services". Another description: a leading advocacy and grantmaking organization focused on raising awareness about mass-atrocities
- 69.0.24.157 (talk) 15:54, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
- Leila, is that you? You appear to have logged yourself out; that may be what's creating edit problems. More broadly, as you edit the Not On Our Watch Project page, you need to ensure that your phrasing and descriptions remain neutral and encyclopedic, and not just echoing the pages of the organization itself, which will invariably be infused with its own notions about how to describe its purpose, mission, and activities. Remember that Wikipedia is here to describe things in the world, and not to publicize or promote particular organizations or causes. The good thing about the simple description, "humanitarian aid organization" is that it's stripped of characterizations, and is purely descriptive. Of course if it's inaccurate it should be changed, but if so then to something equally neutral, like "humanitarian organization" or something similar. (Cindy, please forgive the intrusion on your Talk page!) JohnInDC (talk) 16:53, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, I welcome intrusions. Even if if results in five edit conflicts. LOL Leila, the "type" in the nonprofit infobox relates to the type of organization within the understanding of the 1023 for which the organization was established tax exempt. This is where "charitable services" or "charitable organization" comes into play. "Humanitarian aid organization" may describe the organization in other areas, but would not be applicable to the legal type. Social services is a generic term that covers humanitarian aid, i.e., a professional and academic discipline that seeks to improve the quality of life and well being of an individual, group, or community by intervening through research, policy, community organizing, direct practice, and teaching on behalf of those afflicted with poverty or any real or perceived social injustices and violations of their human rights. As an alternate choice, you could switch out "social services" with "humanitarian aid", possibly "humanitarian aid, funding, advocacy, and awareness"? Note that we cannot use the tone of the message within the mission statement or description that you provide for the organization, but it would be okay to add "advocacy" to the methods that the organization employs. As far as understanding focus, mission, and method, it's more like an umbrella. The mission, as their purpose for existing, guides the organization, then comes their area of focus, then the methods used to ensure success. I realize that you are using the Enough Project article as a template for this article. While other stuff exists, not all is accurate. We cannot justify one inappropriately edited article based on an example of another inappropriate article. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have questions. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 17:07, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
- Leila, is that you? You appear to have logged yourself out; that may be what's creating edit problems. More broadly, as you edit the Not On Our Watch Project page, you need to ensure that your phrasing and descriptions remain neutral and encyclopedic, and not just echoing the pages of the organization itself, which will invariably be infused with its own notions about how to describe its purpose, mission, and activities. Remember that Wikipedia is here to describe things in the world, and not to publicize or promote particular organizations or causes. The good thing about the simple description, "humanitarian aid organization" is that it's stripped of characterizations, and is purely descriptive. Of course if it's inaccurate it should be changed, but if so then to something equally neutral, like "humanitarian organization" or something similar. (Cindy, please forgive the intrusion on your Talk page!) JohnInDC (talk) 16:53, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
Not On Out Watch
Hi Cindy, thank you for your help with this page. I thought some of the characteristics in the info box made it a bit too wordy, so made some changes. Looking for other references. Thanks again.Leilapaz (talk) 14:03, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Leila. I restored the information in the infobox. If infobox content is unavailable, we can just leave the field blank. To that end, I've removed any of the fields with extraneous information, as I understand this as your desire. Just remember not to remove the classes or collapse elements that you don't want to use. Other editors may come along and wish to add the information. Let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 07:37, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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