Coachfootballnow
Welcome!
editHi Coachfootballnow! I noticed your contributions and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. I hope you like it here and decide to stay.
As you get started, you may find this short tutorial helpful:
Alternatively, the contributing to Wikipedia page covers the same topics.
If you have any questions, we have a friendly space where experienced editors can help you here:
If you are not sure where to help out, you can find a task here:
Happy editing! 47.227.95.73 (talk) 21:54, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Art Haege
editIf you'd like to know, I was the one who authored the article on Art Haege. If there's certain information you'd like changed, we can discuss it, although removing lots of sourced text without discussion and inserting personal commentary is not allowed. Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:04, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- I already changed certain information about my Dad, Art Haege. Some of what you said was totally false! Did you know my Dad? Some of the stuff you said sounds like personal comments, you implied that my Dad violated NCAA rules, he drank booze (my Dad never drank alcohol) and he didn't have sportsmanship, all of which are totally false! I am sure you know what the term "slander" means, in this case it would be called libel. And I am allowed to make personal comments about my Dad, because I am his son! Coachfootballnow (talk) 22:41, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- If that's so, how about reading WP:COI? Tails Wx 22:45, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- I saw no source listed where he implies my Dad said my Dad drinks "booze" and implies my Dad has no sportsmanship, and where he implies my Dad said he violated NCAA rules. I don't know how he would know about my brothers basketball game in high school in 1987, without knowing my father. Listen, I know the truth, I am the "source." Part of writing an article is the truth, and I am the most reliable source of information about my Dad because I am his son! Coachfootballnow (talk) 22:56, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Noting that for those statements I made sure to include quotes, references, and in some of the statements I said "[such and such said] Haege..." As for the "booze" part and NCAA part, that was a direct quote from this article (fifth paragraph) and the sportsmanship part was from here. Unfortunately, Wikipedia only considers published sources as "reliable sources," rather than what people (even relatives) say. I haven't previously been in a situation like this so I'll talk with some others about it. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:09, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- I saw no source listed where he implies my Dad said my Dad drinks "booze" and implies my Dad has no sportsmanship, and where he implies my Dad said he violated NCAA rules. I don't know how he would know about my brothers basketball game in high school in 1987, without knowing my father. Listen, I know the truth, I am the "source." Part of writing an article is the truth, and I am the most reliable source of information about my Dad because I am his son! Coachfootballnow (talk) 22:56, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- If that's so, how about reading WP:COI? Tails Wx 22:45, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
You may request a change of username and unblock if you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization. To do this, first search Special:CentralAuth for available usernames that comply with the username policy. Once you have found an acceptable username, post the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked. In your reasons, you must:
- Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the paid-contribution disclosure requirement.
- Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
- Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your reason here" with the reasons you believe the block was an error, and publish the page. Alexf(talk) 22:54, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Coachfootballnow (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I will change my username. I just used that username because it was easy to remember. The person who wrote my Dad's wikipedia says my Dad openly admitted to drinking too much "booze" (my Dad never drank alcohol), that my Dad didn't have "sportsmanship" (totally false) and says my Dad admitted to violating NCAA rules (also totally false). Those are college sports rules and regulations. Those are his personal comments because I didn't see a source! That's slander, or in this case libel and defamation of character, that could ruin my chances of becoming a coach! This is my fist time editing on here, and I used my website at www.coachfootballnow.com as a source of my info about my Dad, and he used the same source for some of his information! I don't sell anything on my website, it's just a website I made in memory of my Dad and Mom. I have had interviews with football coaches for football coaching jobs that I didn't get, and I hope they are not reading about my Dad on Wikipedia! That slanderous info might be ruining my chances of getting a coaching job! Coachfootballnow (talk) 23:27, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Your username isn't much of a problem. But making accusations of slander, libel, and defamation violates our policy of not allowing legal threats; until you withdraw these accusations, no unblock will be considered. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 00:10, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- I apologize if my work could be negatively affecting your life. I was just trying to write based on the sources I found (if you look there is a reference for each of those things (it looks like a small [1]) and they were direct quotes from the sources). BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:01, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi there. You most likely were not aware, but Wikipedia has the policy Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Given that the subject is your father, of specific relevance is the section at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § Writing about yourself, family, friends. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 04:13, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Jpgordon: I imagine that Alexf flagged the username as promotional because of the website coachfootballnow.com, which is also cited in the article. —Bagumba (talk) 04:18, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- I never made a legal threat. I simply stated that the information used in my Dad's Wikipedia (that I detail in this message) are not factual in nature because my Dad was playing for the crowd, as the saying goes. My Dad was joking, but anyone who reads his Wikipedia might construe it as my father being serious because they did not know my father. My father never drank alcohol (that's a fact) my father never violated NCAA rules and regulations (that's a fact) and my father was not against sportsmanship (that's a fact). There is a big difference between pointing out those issues, and a legal threat. The author of my Dad's Wikipedia could have chosen to cite information about my Dad that did not involve such topics as drinking, violating NCAA rules and regulations, and being unsportsmanlike. Coachfootballnow (talk) 04:44, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- This is probably related to using the words libel and slander and the Wikipedia policy Wikipedia:No legal threats § Perceived legal threats. As for the alcohol quote, it now has in-text attribution to the specific newspaper.[1] I can see how it might have appeared before that the direct quote was from your father. Do you know of other reliable sources that might counter these statements? They could be used to ensure that the page has a neutral point of view. Regards—Bagumba (talk) 09:17, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- I never made a legal threat. I simply stated that the information used in my Dad's Wikipedia (that I detail in this message) are not factual in nature because my Dad was playing for the crowd, as the saying goes. My Dad was joking, but anyone who reads his Wikipedia might construe it as my father being serious because they did not know my father. My father never drank alcohol (that's a fact) my father never violated NCAA rules and regulations (that's a fact) and my father was not against sportsmanship (that's a fact). There is a big difference between pointing out those issues, and a legal threat. The author of my Dad's Wikipedia could have chosen to cite information about my Dad that did not involve such topics as drinking, violating NCAA rules and regulations, and being unsportsmanlike. Coachfootballnow (talk) 04:44, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: That is correct. The name was flagged by filters because it matches the name of a website. That is spam. It also indicates a group or company, and it is not allowed. I made no comments on the article or the user's postings, as these have been covered here already. -- Alexf(talk) 08:47, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- FWIW, other editors had included references to that website before this user. However, I agree that the username doees violate the WP:PROMONAME policy, and should be changed. —Bagumba (talk) 09:21, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- I could go to my website (because it was used as a source) and state that my father did not drink alcohol. But there is no need for that now, because the author of my Dad's Wikipedia article has removed that information. My username is not spam because I don't sell anything on my website, and its just a username of Coachfootballnow. I will change my username. When I do, I expect to be unblocked. There is also something called freedom of speech, its located in the 1st amendment of the U.S.Constitution, and it applies to me. Coachfootballnow (talk) 09:06, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Indeed it does, and if the US Government or those of any of the states attempt to restrict your freedom of speech, you'll be able to formally complain. Wikipedia is not, however, a branch of any such government, and you have no such right here. Further, your username is not acceptable under Wikipedia's policies, whether you agree with those policies or not. I said the name wasn't "much of a problem" and it isn't; a name change is simple. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 14:54, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- I could go to my website (because it was used as a source) and state that my father did not drink alcohol. But there is no need for that now, because the author of my Dad's Wikipedia article has removed that information. My username is not spam because I don't sell anything on my website, and its just a username of Coachfootballnow. I will change my username. When I do, I expect to be unblocked. There is also something called freedom of speech, its located in the 1st amendment of the U.S.Constitution, and it applies to me. Coachfootballnow (talk) 09:06, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- FWIW, other editors had included references to that website before this user. However, I agree that the username doees violate the WP:PROMONAME policy, and should be changed. —Bagumba (talk) 09:21, 11 May 2023 (UTC)